Movement.

[Captain Obvious]

I wouldn't rule out McBurnie or Maupay yet tbf. Not ITK but I can still see us getting one of them, McBurnie now seems more likely though I guess.

I hope you're right - McBurnie would give me a bit of optimism!

 

[Grizzly blade]

Agents really are a cancer in the game.
Maupay has probably been with the agent he has since he first turned pro, with the agent having him “signed” to him exclusively.
Agents pick up these young lads offering them little perks when they are younger to get them signed to them.
It’s like a paedo offering sweets and puppies to kids...or a singer being tied to a record label!

So, sadly this lad can’t really do anything about his agent. He’s likely stuck with him.

Best United can do is negotiate with Brentford to see if they can pay a share, perhaps negotiate with the agent to pay lumps of his fee dependent on success, similar to add ons for Brentford. Maybe offer a percentage of any sell on fee to the agent?

I’m sure something can be done, but we have to be making efforts not to let these fuckers run the show. The agent needs to feel that if he carries on then there will be NO transfer and no fee at all!£

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Think blades fans have crashed twitter

 

[Tunstall Fred]

I hope you're right - McBurnie would give me a bit of optimism!

I very much doubt that.

 

[FTPE]

Nobody hates greedy agents more than I do, but there's not many young, hungry proven goal scorers within our budget. I am all for making a stand against unfair payments in football but let's not do it at the expense of Wilders number 1 target.

800k is a stupid number for doing fuck all, but in the grand scheme of the transfer I reckon 90% of our fans think its worth reluctantly paying it.

 

[Wards]

Surely we’re just playing hardball with the agent? Maybe he’s got no other offers on the table so we’re saying “fine, tout him around then come back to us - in the meantime we ain’t paying you £800k”. Agent goes to sell him elsewhere, fails, then comes crawling back to us at half the fee in a weeks time.

 

[Silent Blade]

In the 90's it was always Blades sign "Premier League Star" only to realise we'd signed Alan Cork - legend to be fair!

The funniest story I head is when Brentford had a similar headline in their local paper when they re-signed Bob Booker from us, who of course they let go for free, three years earlier!

PL hadnt even started when we signed Cork

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Sod it, I'm gonna ring Clubcall they'll have all the answers, surely?!

Anyone else remember ringing that back in the day? I recall Andy Pack waffling on and me getting really frustrated and thinking get on with it man, my Mum's gonna go ape when she sees the bill!

You should have seen how quickly they swallowed up 50p pieces in a payphone.

 

[YES Blade]

Agents really are a cancer in the game.
Maupay has probably been with the agent he has since he first turned pro, with the agent having him “signed” to him exclusively.
Agents pick up these young lads offering them little perks when they are younger to get them signed to them.
It’s like a paedo offering sweets and puppies to kids...or a singer being tied to a record label!

So, sadly this lad can’t really do anything about his agent. He’s likely stuck with him.

Best United can do is negotiate with Brentford to see if they can pay a share, perhaps negotiate with the agent to pay lumps of his fee dependent on success, similar to add ons for Brentford. Maybe offer a percentage of any sell on fee to the agent?

I’m sure something can be done, but we have to be making efforts not to let these fuckers run the show. The agent needs to feel that if he carries on then there will be NO transfer and no fee at all!£

If we were selling our star striker for nearly £20m, what do you think we’d say if the buying club asked us to contribute to the agent fee?

 

[ormester]

just get the agent fee paid other clubs do

 

[Ossett Blade]

Sod it, I'm gonna ring Clubcall they'll have all the answers, surely?!

Anyone else remember ringing that back in the day? I recall Andy Pack waffling on and me getting really frustrated and thinking get on with it man, my Mum's gonna go ape when she sees the bill!

I literally tweeted this about 2 weeks ago haha

 

[Kenilworth]

Suspect the £800k demand is a delaying tactic while the agent hawks Maupay to other potential suitors to see if he can get a better deal for him and his client. If not then he may come back and waive the demand.

 

[Harrisblade]

So the incomings for this transfer window look like being:

Freeman
Jags
Robinson
Henderson (loan)
Osborn
Morrison
Mousset

Very underwhelming isn't it! They're the sort of transfers I'd expect if we were having another season in the Championship

Be as underwhelmed as you want.
Nobody but you gives a fuck.
We know what Wilder can do when building a team.

 

[Demon Blade]

The fortune cookie has spoken. The good news is I checked out the window and there is indeed a line of impossibly beautiful women queuing up at my door, so I now fully expect Maupay, McBurnie, Haggerty R, Haggerty F, Whatmore, Henderson and Guthrie to all sign, whilst Bruce will leave Wendy meaning they give the job to Adkins. And Nik Turner will rejoin Hawkwind.


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And you're going to become a football agent.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Just seen a Bournmouth fan post about 1 hour ago on another forum. They make Mousset sound like Joao, talented but inconsistent with poor application.

“Sheffield Utd being linked with Lys Mousset here. Previously linked with Celtic, Stoke and a few others.

A talented lad, but a bit of a headless chicken and frustrating. I'd be hesitant to sell him outright, because there's definitely a player in there who could burst out any time. It would be typical for us to buy him and spend 3 years getting only glimpses of a real player, only to sell him and see him suddenly come good elsewhere”


A different Bournmouth fan has then replied

“Such a weird player. Started making a real difference in 17/18 but he was utterly useless last year.
I may be wrong but I just don't think he has the right attitude, never looked up for the fight last season”

 

[Grizzly blade]

If we were selling our star striker for nearly £20m, what do you think we’d say if the buying club asked us to contribute to the agent fee?

Depends if we’d spent the majority of the fee we were expecting on new players!
In other words, they can either
1. get the £16m fee that’s apparently been agreed
2. Get £15.6m fee
3. Get nowt and have to have all the upheaval, uncertainty and pissing about to continue for at least another month!!

It’s a suggestion. Could be a number of things adding up to reduce the immediate impact of this wankers £800k fee for doing fuck all! Agent to reduce the fee charged, player to take 1k a week less, Brentford to cough £100k of the fee, agent to receive .5% of any future profit for United....

You get the gist

 

[Rusty view]

A fiver every time they say “we don’t need to sell”

They'll probably still be spinning the "no bid received" shit.

 

[jt64]

Without knowing how much we'd already agreed to pay the agent, how much the undisclosed fee would have been, and how much a standard agent fee is for said undisclosed amount, that refusal to pay 800k really doesn't mean a great deal

 

[bertieblade]

I've not suggested doing a Fulham. We need to add quality and only 2 out of that list will add quality from last season's side. Freeman for Duffy and Robinson for one of the forwards. You genuinely believe that will be adequate for the Premier League? That strike force doesn't look good enough and the right side of defence looks incredibly vulnerable to me if we're starting with Baldock and Basham (as much as I want him to do well).

We are not in a position to spend vast amounts on transfer fees and the subsequent wages as the other members of the squad will demand similar wages.
I agree we need players for the right side of defence and another striker but the window has not shut yet and we will always want more.
The squad is / was short in numbers, the signings will have improved the overall strength with most being of the right age to improve, hopefully in very much the same way that Fleck, Egan etc. Have done.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Aqualung?

Pashun Play

 

[Wards]

Suspect the £800k demand is a delaying tactic while the agent hawks Maupay to other potential suitors to see if he can get a better deal for him and his client. If not then he may come back and waive the demand.

What I was trying to say, but you’ve done it better

One of the oldest negotiating tricks in the book to buy some time. I don’t claim to be anything like a master deal breaker but some of you lot would be bloody rubbish in that line of work. Quite possible our lot know there’s no one else in for him and/or they’re not expecting any sudden interest from elsewhere, hence waiting it out a bit longer.

 

[blademark]

Without knowing how much we'd already agreed to pay the agent, how much the undisclosed fee would have been, and how much a standard agent fee is for said undisclosed amount, that refusal to pay 800k really doesn't mean a great deal

I suspect it will represent 5% of the transfer fee, £16m in this case, and I think it will be fairly standard to be fair. I don't agree with the principle for one minute, I believe the player should be entirely responsible for his agent. That way nobody gets upset, but it has been allowed to become the norm by rich clubs who can generally afford it.

 

[Sheffsteel]

I suspect it will represent 5% of the transfer fee, £16m in this case, and I think it will be fairly standard to be fair. I don't agree with the principle for one minute, I believe the player should be entirely responsible for his agent. That way nobody gets upset, but it has been allowed to become the norm by rich clubs who can generally afford it.

I listened to a programme talking about agents on Talksport a few weeks ago.
The female football agent on the show confirmed that the normal football agents fee was 5%, so wouldn’t £800K sound about right?

 

[Balham]

just get the agent fee paid other clubs do

Easy to say when it's someone else's money.

 

[LJBlade]

I suspect it will represent 5% of the transfer fee, £16m in this case, and I think it will be fairly standard to be fair. I don't agree with the principle for one minute, I believe the player should be entirely responsible for his agent. That way nobody gets upset, but it has been allowed to become the norm by rich clubs who can generally afford it.

Assuming we believe the £800k agent fee that RC has mentioned (I’m not saying I don’t believe it) why would we then not believe RC when he said that we’d agreed a fee of £11m/£12m with Brentford?

 

[ormester]

not really its something now days you have to do

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Assuming we believe the £800k agent fee that RC has mentioned (I’m not saying I don’t believe it) why would we then not believe RC when he said that we’d agreed a fee of £11m/£12m with Brentford?

Because Bill 'the kids party star' bee says so.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

You genuinely believe that will be adequate for the Premier League?

You genuinely think we’re all done?
I reckon there’s £25 million available to be spent on the forward line, whoever that is, and some left for the defence/midfield.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Assuming we believe the £800k agent fee that RC has mentioned (I’m not saying I don’t believe it) why would we then not believe RC when he said that we’d agreed a fee of £11m/£12m with Brentford?

He said it was £12m up front I believe...

 

[Jimmy Fleck]

Jeez, people need to calm down. Wilder obviously knows our weaknesses and I have every confidence that he will strengthen where needed, leave it to him and the rest of the staff, he’s clearly happy with the budget if he’s just signed a new deal.