Outgoing? Mousset?

[Bladesman]

for £10m + ??

Maybe or at least we what we paid.

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

Poor man's Nicola Anelka, needs to sort his attitude out, as a certain herr doktor would say his body language is all wrong.

 

[FTPE]

If people judge him purely on his highlights this season we might get our money back.

 

[Mouth of the South]

If people judge him purely on his highlights this season we might get our money back.

Good shout - someone do a YouTube reel immediately. If they can make Higdon look good imagine what they could do for Mousset!

 

[Holmfirth Blade 1977]

It will be a bloody shame if true, however not surprising. His last few sub appearances have been poor, I find myself shouting at him so can only imagine Wilder's frustration.

I just want him to run the channels and when he gets the ball, knock it past and run on to it but he tends to run into trouble. He is also shit scared of getting tackled, never seen a player bottle as many tackles!

Next season will be interesting, lots of outs, hopefully lots of ins too.

 

[BanderSerge]

If people judge him purely on his highlights this season we might get our money back.

We’ll get a minimum £30m if that’s the case! There was of a period of 5/6 games where he looked like pele!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

for £10m + ??

Unlikely given the Covid impact, as the teams who may have been interested abroad won't have the funding.
I'd suggest a loan is the likely outcome with a view to buy.

 

[BarryBigtime]

I'll be honest, at first the thought of him leaving saddened me. Then when I think back to his performances in 2020, it doesn't feel like he's really been "on it". No doubt about it, he's an absolute talent when he wants to be and gives us another dimension all together. But if we have a player who is not 100% in it and struggles to get match fit then that's a chunk of wages and a decent reputation we could capitalize on. Clear he's a big part of the dressing room though so that sucks.

 

[mattbianco1]

The reason Mousset is shit ladies and gentleman, is because............... He drives a Lambourghini

 

[Eggy]

I've been saying it since about January. We need to cut our loses. Sell him.

 

[finlaytheblade]

Unlikely given the Covid impact, as the teams who may have been interested abroad won't have the funding.
I'd suggest a loan is the likely outcome with a view to buy.

Bit disappointing if Wilder paid 10 million for him , perhapes that was the fee based on appearances. He doesn't normally get dunn in the window ,if we did pay 10 for him we have had our pants down.
There was nothing in his stats to suggest we had a winner. We surely didnt pay 10 for possible potential.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

One thing worth mentioning is that if Wilder wants to take the next step in his own career then he needs to be able manage foreign players earning big money with inflated egos.

We're very quick to dismiss guys like Solskjaer & Lampard when they hop, skip & jump into the top management roles but one thing they do have, which Wilder doesn't, is an understanding of how those big dressing rooms work. How to communicate with stars, players from different cultures etc.

Wilder is an exceptional manager, but if he wants to take the step from being another Sean Dyche (absolutely no shame in that by the way) to the top of the chain then getting a tune out of guys like Mousset goes with the territory.

It's not a simple case of "give Wilder the money they have & he'll do better than they're doing" there's so much more to it than that.

I read comments recently from Wayne Rooney describing how Sir Alex Ferguson would rage at him in the dressing room in order to get through to Nani. Apparently Nani would go to bits if you singled him out. Does Wilder have that cuteness?

 

[Rudders]

One thing worth mentioning is that if Wilder wants to take the next step in his own career then he needs to be able manage foreign players earning big money with inflated egos.

We're very quick to dismiss guys like Solskjaer & Lampard when they hop, skip & jump into the top management roles but one thing they do have, which Wilder doesn't, is an understanding of how those big dressing rooms work. How to communicate with stars, players from different cultures etc.

Wilder is an exceptional manager, but if he wants to take the step from being another Sean Dyche (absolutely no shame in that by the way) to the top of the chain then getting a tune out of guys like Mousset goes with the territory.

It's not a simple case of "give Wilder the money they have & he'll do better than they're doing."

Great post fella. Look at Pogba. Amazing player, looks unbelievably good when at it. Seems to be more injury prone than most and has been tricky for OGS to manage. Similar issues to Moose? Bringing in Fernandes though has helped take the pressure off Pogba and he is now part of Man U's first choice midfield. Maybe Wilder should look to reintroduce the Moose when he has boosted our strike force with a better striker to play alongside than what we have got currently. Although I suppose that costs too much...

 

[Booker4]

One thing worth mentioning is that if Wilder wants to take the next step in his own career then he needs to be able manage foreign players earning big money with inflated egos.

We're very quick to dismiss guys like Solskjaer & Lampard when they hop, skip & jump into the top management roles but one thing they do have, which Wilder doesn't, is an understanding of how those big dressing rooms work. How to communicate with stars, players from different cultures etc.

Wilder is an exceptional manager, but if he wants to take the step from being another Sean Dyche (absolutely no shame in that by the way) to the top of the chain then getting a tune out of guys like Mousset goes with the territory.

It's not a simple case of "give Wilder the money they have & he'll do better than they're doing" there's so much more to it than that.

I read comments recently from Wayne Rooney describing how Sir Alex Ferguson would rage at him in the dressing room in order to get through to Nani. Apparently Nani would go to bits if you singled him out. Does Wilder have that cuteness?

I take your point Morgan, but the difference is that Man U are able to buy top foreign talent and not mediocre foreign talent that turns up now and again. For every Cantona and Van Nistelrooy etc. you've got a similar foreign failure also at Man U that was so so. I guess you could say that its a managers job to get the best out of players - obviously - and Mousset is clearly a talented player, but his attitude seems to have annoyed Wilder throughout and/or lack of fitness. The best players, foreign or not, give 100% or if they don't they are able to do something out of nothing on a regular not occasional basis.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Bit disappointing if Wilder paid 10 million for him , perhapes that was the fee based on appearances. He doesn't normally get dunn in the window ,if we did pay 10 for him we have had our pants down.
There was nothing in his stats to suggest we had a winner. We surely didnt pay 10 for possible potential.

I think that's a bit harsh Finners. £10 million for a very young but talented Premier league striker felt about right at the time, although I think that £10 million would have been conditional and won't have been upfront.
I think if he's burnt his bridges then a loan makes sense for all parties. He signed a 3 year contract, so a loan for next season and a lower fee as he'll be into his final year would seem to be his future I'd suggest.

 

[Bladesman]

One thing worth mentioning is that if Wilder wants to take the next step in his own career then he needs to be able manage foreign players earning big money with inflated egos.

We're very quick to dismiss guys like Solskjaer & Lampard when they hop, skip & jump into the top management roles but one thing they do have, which Wilder doesn't, is an understanding of how those big dressing rooms work. How to communicate with stars, players from different cultures etc.

Wilder is an exceptional manager, but if he wants to take the step from being another Sean Dyche (absolutely no shame in that by the way) to the top of the chain then getting a tune out of guys like Mousset goes with the territory.

It's not a simple case of "give Wilder the money they have & he'll do better than they're doing" there's so much more to it than that.

I read comments recently from Wayne Rooney describing how Sir Alex Ferguson would rage at him in the dressing room in order to get through to Nani. Apparently Nani would go to bits if you singled him out. Does Wilder have that cuteness?

It has been my concern that Wilder may need a different approach to foreign signings. All our foreign signings won't all be like Berge who clearly understands Wilder and is already trying to adapt his game accordingly.

There will be egos that need managing and Wilder will need to adapt to that.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

Bit disappointing if Wilder paid 10 million for him , perhapes that was the fee based on appearances. He doesn't normally get dunn in the window ,if we did pay 10 for him we have had our pants down.
There was nothing in his stats to suggest we had a winner. We surely didnt pay 10 for possible potential.

Have you just been transported from the year 2000 ?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

The reason Mousset is shit ladies and gentleman, is because............... He drives a Lambourghini

This year’s equivalent of the Alloy Wheels incident.

 

[cooperblade]

The reason Mousset is shit ladies and gentleman, is because............... He drives a Lambourghini

To be fair to Biggs, he's saying it's not just the lambo that's the issue, it's the fact he parks it in the car park where people can see it. If he stuck it in Lancing Road, everything would probably be OK.

 

[Balham]

Mousset hasn't - and is unlikely to ever - cost us £10m. The initial fee was somewhere in the £4-6m range with the rest based on significant add-ons. There was probably one for him scoring 5 PL goals and another for us avoiding relegation but that'll be about it so far. £7m tops; and we'll get that back. Hell, clubs were willing to spend money on Mario Balotelli even when it was clear he was a fruitcake.

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

To be fair to Biggs, he's saying it's not just the lambo that's the issue, it's the fact he parks it in the car park where people can see it. If he stuck it in Lancing Road, everything would probably be OK.

Only for 10 minutes !!!

 

[BanderSerge]

I think that's a bit harsh Finners. £10 million for a very young but talented Premier league striker felt about right at the time, although I think that £10 million would have been conditional and won't have been upfront.
I think if he's burnt his bridges then a loan makes sense for all parties. He signed a 3 year contract, so a loan for next season and a lower fee as he'll be into his final year would seem to be his future I'd suggest.

Wasn’t even £10m though, was it?

 

[Davalon]

I'm no fan of big egos in any walk of life but it's tough to continually have a dressing room full of grounded quiet lads.

The team ethos is a huge part of our identity and success but you can have a cocky look at me type who still puts the work in.

To continue to be competitive at this level with our finances means spreading our net wider as we've already seen. That means signing players who we don't as much about their persona.

I like Mousset from what I see of him despite the flash bits. It's clear though despite his crucial contributions this season that he doesn't appear to have the consistent appetite of others.

He will definitely need replacing with a similar type of player imho to go with what we've got because you have to have a pace option at this level in our position especially. Our other strikers that are ours all lack any pace at all by comparison and as we don't dominate possession at this level like we have at lower ones, that outlet is crucial in our armoury for me.

 

[mattbianco1]

To be fair to Biggs, he's saying it's not just the lambo that's the issue, it's the fact he parks it in the car park where people can see it. If he stuck it in Lancing Road, everything would probably be OK.

His car probably wouldn't

 

[Bladesman]

I'm no fan of big egos in any walk of life but it's tough to continually have a dressing room full of grounded quiet lads.

The team ethos is a huge part of our identity and success but you can have a cocky look at me type who still puts the work in.

To continue to be competitive at this level with our finances means spreading our net wider as we've already seen. That means signing players who we don't as much about their persona.

I like Mousset from what I see of him despite the flash bits. It's clear though despite his crucial contributions this season that he doesn't appear to have the consistent appetite of others.

He will definitely need replacing with a similar type of player imho to go with what we've got because you have to have a pace option at this level in our position especially. Our other strikers that are ours all lack any pace at all by comparison and as we don't dominate possession at this level like we have at lower ones, that outlet is crucial in our armoury for me.

McBurnie and Hendo are good examples of that. Anyone who has the dress sense of McBurnie needs to have a big ego though.

 

[Rochdaleblade]

Someone like Matt Le Tissier, who single-handedly keeps the team up year after year can get away with being lazy. Mousset can barely manage 45 minutes. I don't think that it's his ego, more his lack of professionalism and commitment.

 

[Ron_Justice]

Had a feeling for few weeks about Moose going. Actually thought it'd be a case of cashing in on whatever reputation he has gained this season. No doubt an absolute talent on his day (had him in my Fantasy Team for most of the season) but unfortunately, for whatever reason*, those days come along too infrequently. Shame to see him go, but I suspect CW's comments about using the fees from outgoing players to strengthen were in part about Moose.

Duffy's situation should be the warning to all the team. Quite rightly, in CW's eyes, The Club is bigger than The Team and The Team is bigger than a single player.

*FWIW, I think the team as a whole are perhaps partly guilty for not getting the most out of Moose. He thrived on those chances that capitalized on his pace and strength and we've, as a team, failed to provide them consistently through the back end of the season.

 

[Mouth of the South]

One thing worth mentioning is that if Wilder wants to take the next step in his own career then he needs to be able manage foreign players earning big money with inflated egos.

We're very quick to dismiss guys like Solskjaer & Lampard when they hop, skip & jump into the top management roles but one thing they do have, which Wilder doesn't, is an understanding of how those big dressing rooms work. How to communicate with stars, players from different cultures etc.

Wilder is an exceptional manager, but if he wants to take the step from being another Sean Dyche (absolutely no shame in that by the way) to the top of the chain then getting a tune out of guys like Mousset goes with the territory.

It's not a simple case of "give Wilder the money they have & he'll do better than they're doing" there's so much more to it than that.

I read comments recently from Wayne Rooney describing how Sir Alex Ferguson would rage at him in the dressing room in order to get through to Nani. Apparently Nani would go to bits if you singled him out. Does Wilder have that cuteness?

Some good a relevant point buts another key element in senior leaders' development is the ability to identify and deal with bad eggs. It appears CW has done eggactly )) that with Mousset

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

To be fair to Biggs, he's saying it's not just the lambo that's the issue, it's the fact he parks it in the car park where people can see it. If he stuck it in Lancing Road, everything would probably be OK.

Agreed, some personalities like to be the big man on campus and that's fine, but in our team they need to deliver.
We don't have space for someone giving it the "big un" but not performing, as it doesn't fit in with our squad ethos. Terrible shame, but if he didn't have question marks around him, we wouldn't have got near him.

 

[Grizzly blade]

Seeing him play like he has last for the last 15 or so games has really infuriated me.
All that ability, yet wasted.
Wilder clearly thought he could get the lad to focus and do the job needed. Seems in reality he barely got himself fit to play and that is what I find offensive when he’s in a place of privilege compared to so many people.
I understand that they can’t all be the same, I get that, but like Morrison it’s staggering that they cannot see the error of their ways and sort it out
He’s lacked the effort, commitment and determination to put himself into a possible national call up, and couldn’t get game time at United. And for that reason Wilder is right to bomb him out.

Thanks for the goals and assists, but we can’t carry anyone here.