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Battered them. Could have been 3 or 4 to 1 if we could have finished the chances we had.
 



Thought Lavery was supposed to play to get match fit for weekend match! Any info?
 
F*** me missed all the action, left on the hour mark (had to call for some rice crispies from Morrisons) and there'd been virtually no shots. Echo what's been said, we might have got a player with Whiteman, likes to dig in and handy with the ball too.

One of my mates captains Semple at cricket so kept an eye on how he was playing. Did okay, won all his headers bar one and was moaning to the ref he was fouled on that; could have been a bit tighter on a couple of occasions but there's not many players that will give perfect performances. Think he was captain tonight, which aint bad to say he's only 17 and there were a few first team squad players in (EEL, Hussey, Long, Fleck, Reed Chapman and Whiteman). Perhaps another for the future.
 
United the better side, much better with the ball as you'd expect with those line ups to be fair, very few chances in first half, more chances in second half, enough to win the game. Excellent goal from Whiteman, who looks an accomplished midfielder.

Ebanks-Landell again worried me a bit with his heading - poor distance, poor accuracy. The lad who replaced him (Hallam?) was better at heading it and kicking it than he was.

David Brooks was the most pleasing thing to take from it for me, first time I've really seen him and he has good technique, can run with the ball and is confident doing so. Not too small either, but quite slim. Played on the right, but I'm pretty sure that's not where he'll end up when he develops physically, although he's obviously comfortable enough there.

Reed looked decent in parts but wasn't too effective in the number 10 position.

Jake Wright surprised me a bit, stronger and faster than I thought he was, looks to have potential. Connor Hall on the other hand didn't impress me, I'm not sure what he's supposed to be. Seems to be a 'little big man' like Billy Sharp, but I didn't see enough ability.

Semple looks like a solid all round centre half who can use the ball quite well.
 
Overall impressed with that game. All played well wasn't a bad player among them tonight. Created chances and was very unlucky not to go in front towards the end. There keeper made some brilliant saves to keep it 1-1.

Long played well didn't really have much to do but pulled off a couple of decent saves when he needed to. Can't fault him for the goal either they was through on goal and long come out made himself big and pulled off a good save was unlucky that it went to him again for him to header the ball into virtually a open net.

Joseph Cummings looked a bit nervous first half and didn't really look very good, but that all changed in the second half and he went on to play very well. Looked very good when going forwards and looked as if he had been told at half time that he could push further up the pitch which seemed to work a lot better for him.

Ebanks landell looked a very strong solid CB won pretty much everything that came near him, that been said he did look a little unfit and a little slow on pace and was out ran on a couple of times hopefully this is just down to the fact that he hasn't played very many games a lately and isn't really 100 percent match fit yet.

Semple was captain and looked very comfortable all night, really steady defender and looked very good in the air.

Hussey seemed to play well down the left made a lot of chances, ran at players and seemed a real pain to defend against. Crossing was good and played a nice part in the build up to the goal.

Ben whiteman played well and looked good. Defensively and going forward. Not scared of making challenges and getting stuck in when defending and looked willing to go forward when we had the ball. Brilliantly hit strike for our goal, hit straight into the left top corner hitting the underside of the crossbar and in. Looks like if he carries on could be pushing for a first team place again at some point and hopefully can be utilised as a good sub if we need him.

Fleck was steady and often calmed play down and never looked under pressure when he had the ball he knew when he had time to look and try and pick a nice pass out and he knew when to pick the easy ball out and keep the ball moving. Also wasn't scared of getting a foot in even after just coming back from an injury.

Reed played decent nothing special and for me was probably the worst player on the pitch for us today if I was going to have to pick one. To say he is probably the one who has had the most games for us that played today he was really average didn't really do much and didn't really create anything. If you didn't know he had then you wouldn't have thought he had really played in the first team as didn't really stand out or anything.

Chapman played well in sparks seemed to have picked up a knock but looks a good player with speed and skill on his side and isn't scared of running at defenders and just making it hard for the to defend against him and hard for them to read what he is going to do.

Brooks was the stand out man for me today and has looked good on numerous occasions when I have seen him play before. Seems really confident on the ball for a young lad and looks really good with the ball at his feet. He is not scared of running at people and putting them on the back foot is also very good when it comes to taking a man on and beating him, he also looks quite strong for his age and size and on numerous occasions holded the ball up very well and muscled his way past defenders. Made a lot of runs today and really looks as if he could be a regular starter come the end of the season if he carries on to progress.

Jake Wright jnr not really seen a lot of this lad but looked good and suprised me to be fair. Didn't really have to many chances but looked decent when he had the ball. He seemed quite quick and strong.

MOM Brooks just nipped it for me.
 
Long a steady 7, Hussey better attacking than defending 6, Cummings a good solid 6, EEL bit unsure 6, Semple better as game went on 7.5, Fleck better as game went on 7, Whiteman MOM 8.5, Reed light weight 6.5, Chapman didn't want to be there 5, Brookes a talent 7.5, Wright a real handful 7.

Subs ... Hall not convinced 6, Charlesworth excellent right back 7, K Smith lightening fast but unpredictable 6

Really enjoyed it tonight. Deserved to nick the win.
 
Quick report from tonight:

Finished 1-1 but we really should have won 4 or 5-1.

We played 4 at the back with Jake Wright Jr up front on his own with Chapman and Brooks wide of a 3 behind with Reed in the middle as a kind of number 10 and then Whiteman and Fleck behind.

First half was a non event. They had one chance just wide from the lad Rodney who had actually nearly got in the first minute. After this we had a few half chances but nothing that clear and most straight at the keeper.

Second half became more open and their were chances at both ends but we had most of them. We dithered a few times in the final third or played bad final ball (same as Sunday) and at times the play was sloppy (from both sides). However Brooks really impressed and Whiteman had a strong second half. Even Reed did better after being poor.

It seemed inevitable we may get one but they broke and scored. It was a brilliant ball from their lad played with outside of the foot that dissected the defence and Buckley beat the offside trap too get in. Long saved his one on one but it looped up and Buckley headed over him and in. After this we chipped away but looked a bit punchless up top. Then a decent move saw 4 or 5 involved and the ball was switched across and Whiteman hammered it from maybe 18-20 yards right into the top corner via the underside of the bar. It was a great strike.

After this it was all us really. They had one break and nearly got in but it was just whether United could nick the winner. Their keeper; Cameron Dawson; had a blinder and made 3 or 4 brilliant saves, two from point blank headers from Semple on a corner and sub Kimarni Smith; from a great cross from Hussey. Fleck forced a save from him and even at the end he made another good save down low.

United were not great but had a much stronger side on paper with more experience. Weds played 3 over 23's in Loovens (very rusty and nearly gave us a goal at the end), Sasso (centre backs) and also Buckley but none of others have had any first team experience (never heard of many of them).

United

Long 7/10 - His handling was fine tonight. Caught most things. Still a bit stop start a few times but no problems. Saved well on the goal and nobody got back to help with rebound

Cummings 6/10 - Did ok. He is a rangy, Viv Anderson style in how he looks, right back. He got up and down and was commited. Ended up at centre back. Very raw and gambles too much but got the physique and pace.

Hussey 6.5/10 - He played alright tonight. Hared up and down but often players did not find him. Mixed bag with crossing/corners. Hit first man too much but put a few beauties over too. He needs to be able to trust his right foot occasionally.

Ebanks Landell 6/10 - Really big unit. He attacks the ball well but is not great on the ball - seems very clumsy. He is certainly no nonsense and will get booked a lot. As others have said does not get much distance on his clearances.

Semple 6.5/10 - Seen him be lauded by a few academy watchers on here. Seen him a few times now. He is very slow I have to say. Looks Maguire-esque in terms of physique but he attacks the ball well. Got beat easily first minute and they lad Rodney nearly scored for them. Had a few other dodgy moments and got caught square on the goal too. He is not bad on the ball and will come out of defence and have a shot/play the long pass. Nearly scored too. Seems a long way off first team ready on that show and as a say lack of mobility worries me but there is some qualities and is only 17 and says something to be captain.

Fleck 6/10 - Quiet game. A few tackles and runs but overall not involved enough. Did have one shot near the end. Got booked for a poor foul.

Whiteman 7/10 - Thought first half he was not in the game at all and forgot he was playing. Got better second half and made a few tackles and got on the ball more. Scored a great goal. Still needs to do
more for me.

Reed 6/10 - As above. Very poor first half and even second half too many aimless balls or loose touches but a few moments of real quality like the smashed cross with the outside of his foot and one or two other decent balls. Sadly I think he is going backwards and he urgently needs a loan spell. Not sure at League Two a club would want him though on recent reserve/first team games I have seen.

Wright 5.5/10 - Not in the game much really. Chased around a lot but seemed to get a whack and then came off. Another that not sure has pushed on from those goal laden spells at Hallam etc a few years ago. A big season for like of him, Reed and Whiteman if they want to prove they have a future at SUFC. Not sure any are making a firm claim to even be on the bench at the moment.

Chapman 5/10 - Really disappointing. Seems to shy away from physical contact. He does not seem very quick and lacks a trick to beat a man. He drifted about but seemed to go to ground a lot. He picked up a knock and he went off second half.

Brooks 8/10 - Our best player by a long way. Some quality pieces of skill. One where he pulled it down a la Zidane see attached clip had the crowd in raptures. After this he showed some lovely touches. Seems to like playing the ball with the outside of his foot but seems two footed. One run second half where he drifted past 3 men and nearly got in again brightened up a drab game. He had a few other moments of class. Very frail and needs to add some muscle but he is maybe 5'10'' ish so not that small. He has a lot of ability and I think has a chance. Certainly he would be closer to first team than Reed or Whiteman on what I have seen.

Subs:

Hall 5/10 - Very odd shaped lad! He is very rotund shall we say...not fat but just quite well built but lacks pace and seems to run funny! He got in some great positions but he took poor decisions on every one apart from part in the goal. Had 2 great chances to win it but dithered after Loovens initial mistake and then crossed instead of shooting. Not sure on him at all. Looked a bit out of his depth.

Charlesworth - Played right back and did ok. Smallish lad but seemed ok on the ball/positionally.

Smith - Tall quick lad who can shift but another quite frail. Mixed bag with some poor touches and decisions but then nearly got in twice and one header he had could have won it - headed it down but good save.

Saw Foriesteri, Nuhuu and a few other Weds lads watching. Also McNulty was there. Sat on his own. Alan Knill was sat not watching and also saw Jack Lester, David Hirst amongst a few others.

 
larkymasher said:
Long a steady 7, Hussey better attacking than defending 6, Cummings a good solid 6, EEL bit unsure 6, Semple better as game went on 7.5, Fleck better as game went on 7, Whiteman MOM 8.5, Reed light weight 6.5, Chapman didn't want to be there 5, Brookes a talent 7.5, Wright a real handful 7.

Subs ... Hall not convinced 6, Charlesworth excellent right back 7, K Smith lightening fast but unpredictable 6

Really enjoyed it tonight. Deserved to nick the win.
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Not been tonight and glad for the info. This loan signing of Chapman seems to be a really strange one, he could've stayed at Boro and played for their u23s, why have we brought him here is what I'd ask CW in an interview? I do think he has something about him but he's probably a bit worried and bewildered at his lack of competitive game time when you usually go on loan to do just that.
 
Deadbat said:
Quick report from tonight:

Finished 1-1 but we really should have won 4 or 5-1.

We played 4 at the back with Jake Wright Jr up front on his own with Chapman and Brooks wide of a 3 behind with Reed in the middle as a kind of number 10 and then Whiteman and Fleck behind.

First half was a non event. They had one chance just wide from the lad Rodney who had actually nearly got in the first minute. After this we had a few half chances but nothing that clear and most straight at the keeper.

Second half became more open and their were chances at both ends but we had most of them. We dithered a few times in the final third or played bad final ball (same as Sunday) and at times the play was sloppy (from both sides). However Brooks really impressed and Whiteman had a strong second half. Even Reed did better after being poor.

It seemed inevitable we may get one but they broke and scored. It was a brilliant ball from their lad played with outside of the foot that dissected the defence and Buckley beat the offside trap too get in. Long saved his one on one but it looped up and Buckley headed over him and in. After this we chipped away but looked a bit punchless up top. Then a decent move saw 4 or 5 involved and the ball was switched across and Whiteman hammered it from maybe 18-20 yards right into the top corner via the underside of the bar. It was a great strike.

After this it was all us really. They had one break and nearly got in but it was just whether United could nick the winner. Their keeper; Cameron Dawson; had a blinder and made 3 or 4 brilliant saves, two from point blank headers from Semple on a corner and sub Kimarni Smith; from a great cross from Hussey. Fleck forced a save from him and even at the end he made another good save down low.

United were not great but had a much stronger side on paper with more experience. Weds played 3 over 23's in Loovens (very rusty and nearly gave us a goal at the end), Sasso (centre backs) and also Buckley but none of others have had any first team experience (never heard of many of them).

United

Long 7/10 - His handling was fine tonight. Caught most things. Still a bit stop start a few times but no problems. Saved well on the goal and nobody got back to help with rebound

Cummings 6/10 - Did ok. He is a rangy, Viv Anderson style in how he looks, right back. He got up and down and was commited. Ended up at centre back. Very raw and gambles too much but got the physique and pace.

Hussey 6.5/10 - He played alright tonight. Hared up and down but often players did not find him. Mixed bag with crossing/corners. Hit first man too much but put a few beauties over too. He needs to be able to trust his right foot occasionally.

Ebanks Landell 6/10 - Really big unit. He attacks the ball well but is not great on the ball - seems very clumsy. He is certainly no nonsense and will get booked a lot. As others have said does not get much distance on his clearances.

Semple 6.5/10 - Seen him be lauded by a few academy watchers on here. Seen him a few times now. He is very slow I have to say. Looks Maguire-esque in terms of physique but he attacks the ball well. Got beat easily first minute and they lad Rodney nearly scored for them. Had a few other dodgy moments and got caught square on the goal too. He is not bad on the ball and will come out of defence and have a shot/play the long pass. Nearly scored too. Seems a long way off first team ready on that show and as a say lack of mobility worries me but there is some qualities and is only 17 and says something to be captain.

Fleck 6/10 - Quiet game. A few tackles and runs but overall not involved enough. Did have one shot near the end. Got booked for a poor foul.

Whiteman 7/10 - Thought first half he was not in the game at all and forgot he was playing. Got better second half and made a few tackles and got on the ball more. Scored a great goal. Still needs to do
more for me.

Reed 6/10 - As above. Very poor first half and even second half too many aimless balls or loose touches but a few moments of real quality like the smashed cross with the outside of his foot and one or two other decent balls. Sadly I think he is going backwards and he urgently needs a loan spell. Not sure at League Two a club would want him though on recent reserve/first team games I have seen.

Wright 5.5/10 - Not in the game much really. Chased around a lot but seemed to get a whack and then came off. Another that not sure has pushed on from those goal laden spells at Hallam etc a few years ago. A big season for like of him, Reed and Whiteman if they want to prove they have a future at SUFC. Not sure any are making a firm claim to even be on the bench at the moment.

Chapman 5/10 - Really disappointing. Seems to shy away from physical contact. He does not seem very quick and lacks a trick to beat a man. He drifted about but seemed to go to ground a lot. He picked up a knock and he went off second half.

Brooks 8/10 - Our best player by a long way. Some quality pieces of skill. One where he pulled it down a la Zidane see attached clip had the crowd in raptures. After this he showed some lovely touches. Seems to like playing the ball with the outside of his foot but seems two footed. One run second half where he drifted past 3 men and nearly got in again brightened up a drab game. He had a few other moments of class. Very frail and needs to add some muscle but he is maybe 5'10'' ish so not that small. He has a lot of ability and I think has a chance. Certainly he would be closer to first team than Reed or Whiteman on what I have seen.

Subs:

Hall 5/10 - Very odd shaped lad! He is very rotund shall we say...not fat but just quite well built but lacks pace and seems to run funny! He got in some great positions but he took poor decisions on every one apart from part in the goal. Had 2 great chances to win it but dithered after Loovens initial mistake and then crossed instead of shooting. Not sure on him at all. Looked a bit out of his depth.

Charlesworth - Played right back and did ok. Smallish lad but seemed ok on the ball/positionally.

Smith - Tall quick lad who can shift but another quite frail. Mixed bag with some poor touches and decisions but then nearly got in twice and one header he had could have won it - headed it down but good save.

Saw Foriesteri, Nuhuu and a few other Weds lads watching. Also McNulty was there. Sat on his own. Alan Knill was sat not watching and also saw Jack Lester, David Hirst amongst a few others.

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Considering the defence kept the pigs to 3 attempts at goal all evening I think to rate them so low is poor.

The goal was absolutely nothing to do with Semple. Hussey got caught out and they broke a high line. Was the only clear chance they had all night.
 
10-0 win said:
Brooks surely should have a run, released by City due to beeing 'too small' but have grown and look a real prospect.
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Said it since pre season! He's a reight player!........Instead we will probably realise in the 11th hours and give him a few games before selling him to somebody in the league above.

Seriously a class act!
 
wizadry said:
Not been tonight and glad for the info. This loan signing of Chapman seems to be a really strange one, he could've stayed at Boro and played for their u23s, why have we brought him here is what I'd ask CW in an interview? I do think he has something about him but he's probably a bit worried and bewildered at his lack of competitive game time when you usually go on loan to do just that.
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Chapman did well vs Leicester, showed good pace and dribbling ability. He was on international duty on Sunday, but should hopefully be a good addition, progressing and developing as the season goes on.
 
Bergen Blade said:
Chapman did well vs Leicester, showed good pace and dribbling ability. He was on international duty on Sunday, but should hopefully be a good addition, progressing and developing as the season goes on.
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I hope you're right Bergs. My concern regarding my initial post is that he didn't really get a good enough chance when we weren't getting any results, which I thought was a bit strange.
 



We do have some promising youngsters at the moment. It's a shame the club isn't in a better position to give some more of a chance.

I'm glad Cummings is getting decent ratings at right back too. He's a centre half playing out of position so it's very good to see. With him and Semple we have two really good young centre halves coming through.
 
wizadry said:
I hope you're right Bergs. My concern regarding my initial post is that he didn't really get a good enough chance when we weren't getting any results, which I thought was a bit strange.
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He signed around 12th, came on as sub against Rochdale on 13th, got 45 minutes against Southend and was a late sub against Millwall. He's only 18, he'll need a bit of time to settle in.
 
Who was it who replaced Ebanks-Landell at CB? Was it Cummings moving over from RB? I just thought I saw someone come off the bench to replace him directly. He was better than him anyway. Didn't look great at RB though.
 
Ricky said:
Who was it who replaced Ebanks-Landell at CB? Was it Cummings moving over from RB? I just thought I saw someone come off the bench to replace him directly. He was better than him anyway. Didn't look great at RB though.
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Charlesworth came on for Ebanks-Landell at RB and Cummings moved to CB based on what I've read :)
 
larkymasher said:
Considering the defence kept the pigs to 3 attempts at goal all evening I think to rate them so low is poor.

The goal was absolutely nothing to do with Semple. Hussey got caught out and they broke a high line. Was the only clear chance they had all night.
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The goal happened after Hussey threw in, it came back and fell to the wednesday midfielder, who was not closed down (Whiteman lost some balance and withdrew).

At this point, when the man on the ball is not close down, our back four, or what's left of it, i.e. Cummings and Charlesworth have to drop deep to prevent room in behind them.

Cummings in particular has a lapse of concentration and takes a step forward, instead of dropping deep, and this creates the space in behind which they exploit.

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Cummings has really good attributes, but he must be reminded how to position himself in situations like this.
 
BushBlade said:
He signed around 12th, came on as sub against Rochdale on 13th, got 45 minutes against Southend and was a late sub against Millwall. He's only 18, he'll need a bit of time to settle in.
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I appreciate that BB, I just thought he deserved a start whilst we wasn't playing very well, especially as Done has never been a LM.
 
Roygbiv said:
http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/245032-under-23s-at-the-lane-tonight/&page=1

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