Micky Adams – My life in football

[Bayingblade]

Yep. that's exactly how I remember it too.

I knew we we're in trouble before the teams even came out, the atmosphere was electric and the place was rocking.

Just unfortunate for us that we happened to be the opposition on the day, they would have smashed anyone.

I knew we were in trouble when Mr Warnock, in his wisdom, decided to let Matthew "Powder puff" Kilgallon mark John Carew!!! Warnock also made a similar selection cock up for the Wigan game when he was that fucking concerned with stopping McSheffrey (with Jags at right back) that he forgot that Emile Heskey was one of the few opposing strikers who Claude Davis could actually compete against. As a result, Heskey won virtually everything in the air and made a significant contribution to their win.

 

[Dkc]

I'm with you TD. People may disagree but IMHO, you can trace all our woes over the last 10+ years to the January transfer window in the PL. Warnock spunked about £5Million on players who hardly made a contribution. One quality signing who would have been a starter from day 1 would have been enough. I don't fall for his "big blade" bollocks either. The most important thing in Mr Warnocks life is Mr Warnock. I'll accept he's a good manager at this level. But he's fucking useless in the PL so if Cardiff do go up, the first thing they should do is sack him.

By that logic we should sack Wilder if we go up. He has no experience of the
PL

 

[Bayingblade]

By that logic we should sack Wilder if we go up. He has no experience of the
PL

Eh? Why? He's unproven in the PL and if he gets us up he deserves every chance to keep us there. Warnock has had enough goes in the top flight to prove he's not good enough, Wilder hasn't.

My logic is that Warnocks experience in the PL is exactly the reason Cardiff should sack him if they go up. Because he's proved he is not good enough at that level. He's excellent below the top flight, but it's always a step too far for him when he does go up.

By the way, if, IF CW does take us up and we subsequently struggle and get relegated, I would stick with him.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

I knew we were in trouble when Mr Warnock, in his wisdom, decided to let Matthew "Powder puff" Kilgallon mark John Carew!!! Warnock also made a similar selection cock up for the Wigan game when he was that fucking concerned with stopping McSheffrey (with Jags at right back) that he forgot that Emile Heskey was one of the few opposing strikers who Claude Davis could actually compete against. As a result, Heskey won virtually everything in the air and made a significant contribution to their win.

I think this gets very close to the crux of the matter.

I didn't dislike Warnock as much as some on here but was shocked and appalled by the Portsmouth affair. However, my biggest disappointment with him was the fact that, at some point he decided that he was not just a manager who could get the best out of a group of ( by and large) fairly ordinary players but also one who was something of a tactical genius.

As part of this syndrome, he started to make strange team selections ( the worst of all being Jags at right back against Wigan) and try to persuade us that certain players who should never have been in the team we're something special but we couldn't see it ( Adkins Syndrome ?)

Two examples of this which stick in my mind were describing Killgallon as " Rolls Royce" and Nicky Laws ( yes, Nicky Laws ffs) as " our Wayne Rooney "

Add to that the constant " me, me, me " in his interviews and you have the reasons why I was not sorry to see him go.

 

[oldblade]

We were promoted with three games to spare.

Perhaps we should give him the benefit of the doubt. He probably meant we were literally stumbling around after all the celebrating.......

Although we did manage to draw with Leeds when most of our players were probably still hung over!

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Two examples of this which stick in my mind were describing Killgallon as " Rolls Royce" and Nicky Laws ( yes, Nicky Laws ffs) as " our Wayne Rooney "

Kilgallon was an excellent championship level defender, and probably would have made a decent premier league one had we stayed up.

Totall bellend though obviously.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Warnock did a good job for us. Bit of a cunt but things went to shit after we got rid.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Kilgallon was an excellent championship level defender, and probably would have made a decent premier league one had we stayed up.

Totall bellend though obviously.

Killgallon had some appalling games for us.

I well remember visiting some friends in West Yorkshire and going to their local to watch us play Derby on TV.

He was so bad that even the locals , who by and large were totally disinterested, started pointing to the screen and laughing at his ineptitude.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Killgallon had some appalling games for us.

I well remember visiting some friends in West Yorkshire and going to their local to watch us play Derby on TV.

He was so bad that even the locals , who by and large were totally disinterested, started pointing to the screen and laughing at his ineptitude.

Newsflash. Every player has shit games.

 

[blade too long]

No, he just fucked my football club.

think he was given a horrendous task
he inherited a squad littered with long term injuries to key players
was the 4th manager in 4 months and got a squad totally without direction left high and dry by Speed walking out
think Speed gets away with a lot of blame for the mess Adams was dumped with
42 players used showed there was no first eleven available to him
we had to have loans to cover injured or previous bad loans

yes he failed miserably but to be fair even big sam would have struggled with what he had

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Newsflash. Every player has shit games.

Some more than others.

 

[JJ Sefton]

That Villa game saw us switch the back four around of memory serves so we could give Kilgallon a start.

Either way, that season we secured enough points to have kept us up in most other seasons. If it hadn't been for West Ham cheating we'd have stayed up.

 

[oldblade]

think he was given a horrendous task
he inherited a squad littered with long term injuries to key players
was the 4th manager in 4 months and got a squad totally without direction left high and dry by Speed walking out
think Speed gets away with a lot of blame for the mess Adams was dumped with
42 players used showed there was no first eleven available to him
we had to have loans to cover injured or previous bad loans

yes he failed miserably but to be fair even big sam would have struggled with what he had

TD is talking about Warnock not Adams.

Mind you, given the vitriol he directs at Warnock and his alleged poor record, his thoughts on Adams are probably unprintable!

 

[Hamburg Blade]

TD is talking about Warnock not Adams.

Mind you, given the vitriol he directs at Warnock and his alleged poor record, his thoughts on Adams are probably unprintable!

The thread is about Adams. Perhaps blade too long is staying on topic and ignoring the fact that yet another thread has been hijacked by the Warnock was a shit / Warnock was not a shit unending debate.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Either way, that season we secured enough points to have kept us up in most other seasons.

Which given the make-up of that squad was an impressive feat in itself to be quite honest. To read some of the assessments of that season, you think he took a mid-table team and got it relegated. I’d argue he took a team destined for the bottom three and nearly kept it up, with some cracking games in what was a goal away from being a thoroughly memorable season. The Arsenal home game remains one of my best experiences at the Lane.

 

[oldblade]

The thread is about Adams. Perhaps blade too long is staying on topic and ignoring the fact that yet another thread has been hijacked by the Warnock was a shit / Warnock was not a shit unending debate.

But he answered a post by TD that was talking solely about Warnock, not Adams.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Which given the make-up of that squad was an impressive feat in itself to be quite honest. To read some of the assessments of that season, you think he took a mid-table team and got it relegated. I’d argue he took a team destined for the bottom three and nearly kept it up, with some cracking games in what was a goal away from being a thoroughly memorable season. The Arsenal home game remains one of my best experiences at the Lane.

Spurs at home was a great performance and result against a decent side.

Agreed, at the start of the season people were saying we'd "do a Sunderland". We did far better.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

But he answered a post by TD that was talking solely about Warnock, not Adams.

So he did. What a prat.

 

[blade too long]

The thread is about Adams. Perhaps blade too long is staying on topic and ignoring the fact that yet another thread has been hijacked by the Warnock was a shit / Warnock was not a shit unending debate.

nah missed the change of dircetion
point stands he failed but was like trying to swim in concrete boots

 

[5tannington Blade]

This thread is like being dragged off your honey moon by your boss cos things have gone tits up at work. Those Adams days were some of the worst I've experienced as a fan nearly 30, were times I just wanted him to scream at the players yet he just sat too often with his arms crossed in his dug out.

Let's just be grateful those days are well and truly behind us....... the only way is up right now !

 

[Booker4]

So has anyone got the foggiest idea what Adams said of his time at United? I still feel sorry for Adams, but as many have said, he seemed out of his depth in the situation we were in. He did inherit a mess though and Doyle and Collins, in my view, proved to be decent signings for league One. Of course, he signed them when we in the champ!

I see the thread has descended into kicking Warnock! I agree with some of what has been said, like the Portsmouth flirtation was a disgrace and him flirting with the pigs was even worse, albeit he'd left by then. But, I think he should be remembered as doing a great job for us, and we had some great memories under Warnock, that not many managers could have achieved on the budget he had.

 

[speedymcgeady]

Hardly. The Portsmouth affair did happen, he did spunk the Premiership budget on crap and he has been making nasty digs at us since. It's all pretty easy to see if you take a look.

And still people fall for the 'Mr Big Blade' bollocks even 10 years after he left.

It baffles me that anyone still retains even a semblance of affection for the man just because we had a couple of big days out nearly 7 years.

Thank fuck it's not just me....

 

[Pinchy]

I knew we were in trouble when Mr Warnock, in his wisdom, decided to let Matthew "Powder puff" Kilgallon mark John Carew!!! Warnock also made a similar selection cock up for the Wigan game when he was that fucking concerned with stopping McSheffrey (with Jags at right back) that he forgot that Emile Heskey was one of the few opposing strikers who Claude Davis could actually compete against. As a result, Heskey won virtually everything in the air and made a significant contribution to their win.

McCulloch, not McSheffrey...

 

[Pinchy]

Same people trotting out the same old tired agendas.

Not quite. I haven’t had my turn yet.



There.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

So how many feet do we have?

At the time 3 - all left,size 13

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

"Not even bothering to be a manager for the last 6 games.."

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Losing to Man Utd and Villa away was to be expected against teams with their budget and relative spending power.

Villa were there for the taking irrespective of "budget and relative spending power" (which hasn't subsequently kept them in PL, nor facilitated a return)

In essence that night consigned us to relegation when we wet to Villa park set up (& hoping for) a 0-0 - one of the poorest performances (sic) I've ever witnessed by a Blades team (sic) & that's sayin summat :- up (down) there with Cambridge in 3rd / December 26th / Altringham in cup etcetcetcetc.......

 

[Dkc]

Shall we have a whip round for a copy of Micky's book? Can't see him signing them in the club shop anytime soon

 

[Tyler Durden]

TD is talking about Warnock not Adams.

Mind you, given the vitriol he directs at Warnock and his alleged poor record, his thoughts on Adams are probably unprintable!

Not so.

I never slate managers merely for having a poor record. Micky Adams always came across as a decent and honest man who really wanted to achieve things with the club. Unfortunately, by his own admission the job was too big for him. No hard feelings, we move on. On this same thread I've also been quite equivocal about Nigel Adkins of all people.

I dislike Warnock primarily because he was an arsehole and a charlatan. I only mention his record because it isn't exactly consistent with the nauseating hagiography that has been created around him.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Oops not quite got the hang of this - apologies ( (& damn you single malts)

May have missed the moments but:
"So how many feet do we have" elicits the reply- 3 @ the time, all left

[humour, it's all about...]



"Losing to...... Villa away was to be expected...with their budget & relative spending power"

Villa were poor that season (hence change of manager) & their resources didn't haven't subsequently maintained nor returned them to their 'rightful (sic) place [sound familiar?]
Among the worst performances (sic) I remember in 49 years of watchingSUFC (& theres plenty of shite to choose from - Cambrige in 3rd; Altringham in cup ; 6 @ Blackburn; December 26; almost every visit to Stockport etc etc etc...)
We went with a game plan (sic) of not conceding & had no idea (or fight) to rectify conceding (irrespective of the apparently inspiring Villa fans & THEIR messiah ?!)

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Timing

(Humour, it's about...)