Micky Adams – My life in football

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

You're blaming Warnock for Robson's fuck ups?

Not at all. But Warnock's shortcomings and short term transfers in the PL laid the groundwork for Robson to come along and royally fuck us for half a decade.

If you like Warnock bought the shotgun and Robson bought the bullets, took aim and blew one foot clean off. McCabe blew the others off with a catalogue of dire managerial appointments..

 

[I should coco]

If you like Warnock bought the shotgun and Robson bought the bullets, took aim and blew one foot clean off. McCabe blew the others off with a catalogue of dire managerial appointments..

So how many feet do we have?

BTW, the pedantic post of the day would point out that shotguns take pellet cartridges, not bullets, but I wouldn't want to look that mean and small minded.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

So how many feet do we have?

BTW, the pedantic post of the day would point out that shotguns take pellet cartridges, not bullets, but I wouldn't want to look that mean and small minded.

I'll bow to your far superior knowledge of weaponary and ammunition, but I thought we were all done with feet until Adkins came along and blew off a foot I didn't know we had!!!

 

[Harry's Game]

We would have finished about 17th if Blackwell had stayed and we could have looked for a new manager that summer.

We were doomed from the moment we fell for the "fake Thai investment con" and replaced Blackwell with nice Guy but limited experience Speed. We were hoping his contacts in the game would secure some decent loans that season but we didn't have the hoped for investment to secure any but Andy Reid

Micky Adams was Just the Fecal cherry on top of the shit cake for that season.

 

[I should coco]

until Adkins came along and blew off a foot I didn't know we had!!!

Feet, whole legs, arms, most of the torso etc etc etc.

 

[Tyler Durden]

So how many feet do we have?

BTW, the pedantic post of the day would point out that shotguns take pellet cartridges, not bullets, but I wouldn't want to look that mean and small minded.

Maybe a .45 Magnum with hollow point bullets would be more apt. More than capable of blowing a limb off.

Then again a shotgun blast has a wider spread, analogous with the clusterfuck of bad situations we were in at the time.

In hindsight, the Adkins era was probably more akin to a flesh wound caused by a .38 caliber handgun. Very painful but ultimately quick to heal.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

The football was wank under Speed. I actually think it inproved under Adams, who was a bit unlucky.

I’m fairly sure we’d have been relegated under Speed, but not if we’d kept Blackwell. Stomaching the football would have been the issue.

Shudder.

Thank fuck those days are behind us.

Speeds average pts total extrapolated over the season would have seen us finish in 19th.

 

[BushBlade]

Not at all. But Warnock's shortcomings and short term transfers in the PL laid the groundwork for Robson to come along and royally fuck us for half a decade.

If you like Warnock bought the shotgun and Robson bought the bullets, took aim and blew one foot clean off. McCabe blew the others off with a catalogue of dire managerial appointments..

I can't agree with that at all. We had a squad that was ideal for promotion with a couple of decent signings and a competent manager and we'd received £15m parachute money (with another £7m to come). We had one of the lowest wage bills in the PL. Warnock didn't leave us with shit players on big contracts. All KM had to do was appoint a decent manager who wasn't an alcoholic or hadn't recently been sacked for failing to get promotion from the league we were trying to get promoted from.

 

[Rodley]

I can't agree with that at all. We had a squad that was ideal for promotion with a couple of decent signings and a competent manager and we'd received £15m parachute money (with another £7m to come). We had one of the lowest wage bills in the PL. Warnock didn't leave us with shit players on big contracts. All KM had to do was appoint a decent manager who wasn't an alcoholic or hadn't recently been sacked for failing to get promotion from the league we were trying to get promoted from.

Same people trotting out the same old tired agendas. Warnock had some unappealing traits, but he was a superb manager for us and delivered some fabulous moments.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

The football was wank under Speed. I actually think it inproved under Adams, who was a bit unlucky.

I’m fairly sure we’d have been relegated under Speed, but not if we’d kept Blackwell. Stomaching the football would have been the issue.

Shudder.

Thank fuck those days are behind us.

I actually think the football was improving under Speed just before he left. He tried to turn our style of play to a more passing game and at first we did struggle to adapt, but i thought we was slowly getting the hang if it.
Adams on the other hand was totally out of his depth an out of date manager who had no idea except to stand on the touchline with his arms folded.

Its all about opinions but one thing we can agree on is, Thank fuck those days are behind us.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Yeah that was brilliant wasn't it, and to think he did it in just 6 and a half short years.....

We'll ignore the bit where he tried to derail that same promotion bid by trying to fuck off to Portsmouth in November after having a hissy fit over his contract. Or his pissing away of the Premiership budget on shite, or not even bothering to be a manager for the last 6 games of that very same season since he was on his way out anyway. Or his snidey little fucking swipes at us every since he left.

Oh but he's a super-duper-mega Blade isn't he? Aye, about as much as Gary Megson.

"Not even bothering to be a manager for the last 6 games.."



Two home wins and an away draw against relegation rivals were very good results.
Losing to Man Utd and Villa away was to be expected against teams with their budget and relative spending power.
So one bad result out of the last 6 matches with a manager who had stopped bothering?
Would appear to be a factually incorrect accusation like the rest of your rants about Warnock.

 

[Rudders]

I agree that Adkins was an awful manager, but during his tenure he did bin off a lot of the dross signings Clough made - allowing Wilder a much clearer squad building opportunity than that which he (adkins) started with. And signing Billy.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Same people trotting out the same old tired agendas. Warnock had some unappealing traits, but he was a superb manager for us and delivered some fabulous moments.

Superb?

I'm glad we don't set the bar that low anymore.

 

[oldblade]

My personal dislike of Neil Warnock can be directly traced back to November 2005 when he was foot-stopping over a new contract and Kevin McCabe quite rightly told him that a new contract would be discussed once the agreed aim of promotion had been achieved.

In true prima-donna fashion, he aired this dirty laundry in public before applying for the Portsmouth job after Alain Perrin got sacked. Gambling on the assumption that Sheffield United would just buckle and aquiesce to his demands. We did not, and he came crawling back.

It's worth noting that his 'beloved' United were top of the division at the time, before the whole situation coincided with a significant downturn in form due to the unrest. We conceded top spot to Reading and never regained it. In fact we stumbled over the finishing line and were actually sent up by Leeds drawing.

The rest is painful history. He took charge when we were in the 2nd tier and left us in the same position after 7 years. With only a couple of nice days out to show for it.

Again, a complete misrepresentation of what happened.

Warnock's flirtation with Portsmouth was well known at the time and there was no significant down turn in our form whatsoever.

The whole episode was at it's height just before our home game against Wednesday (3rd December). A game that we won.

From that match up until the return match at Hillsborough (which we also won) on 18th February, two and a half months later, we lost a grand total of 3 league games.

The down turn in our form came at the end of February/beginning of March when we lost 3 out of 4 games. That was a long time after the Portsmouth episode was over and was hardly a prolonged period of poor form. After the third of those defeats we did not lose another game for the rest of the season and finished nine points clear of third place. If that was stumbling over the finish line then I hope we do a lot more stumbling in this and future seasons.

We got 90 points in that season. I can only remember us bettering that on two occasions. Our 4th division season and last season. Both of which were in leagues below the level of the one Warnock achieved 90 points in.

Reading had an exceptional season, finishing with 106 points (is that the highest ever championship points total?) and lost only twice all season. The first of those losses came in their first game of the season. So they lost only 1 of their next 45 league games. I don't think any side in country could live with that sort of form, so to try and make out that we were robbed of top spot because of Warnock's antics is at best disingenuous.

Yes, he was appointed manager when we were in the second tier. Bottom of the second tier. He left us with a side that should have got promoted with very little difficulty and our financial position was vastly stronger. The position of the club when he left bore no resemblance to the one he first came to.

 

[Tyler Durden]

"Not even bothering to be a manager for the last 6 games.."

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Two home wins and an away draw against relegation rivals were very good results.
Losing to Man Utd and Villa away was to be expected against teams with their budget and relative spending power.
So one bad result out of the last 6 matches with a manager who had stopped bothering?
Would appear to be a factually incorrect accusation like the rest of your rants about Warnock.

Here's a correct fact for you.

He signed shit players and we got relegated.

So excuse me if don't feel the need to fellate somebody who left the club in the very same position he found us in, and had the luxury of 7 years grace to do it in. Least of all a nasty bastard who takes pot shots of us every chance he gets.

Still, I'm sure many will clap him like demented seals when Cardiff come to town. Because of a few nice days out in the cup games....

 

[oldblade]

Here's a correct fact for you.

He signed shit players and we got relegated.

So excuse me if don't feel the need to fellate somebody who left the club in the very same position he found us in, and had the luxury of 7 years grace to do it in. Least of all a nasty bastard who takes pot shots of us every chance he gets.

Still, I'm sure many will clap him like demented seals when Cardiff come to town. Because of a few nice days out in the cup games....

Wonder who that reminds me of......................

 

[Highbury_Blade]

"Not even bothering to be a manager for the last 6 games.."

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Two home wins and an away draw against relegation rivals were very good results.
Losing to Man Utd and Villa away was to be expected against teams with their budget and relative spending power.
So one bad result out of the last 6 matches with a manager who had stopped bothering?
Would appear to be a factually incorrect accusation like the rest of your rants about Warnock.

The Villa game was embarrassing to be honest

 

[Sothall_Blade]

The Villa game was embarrassing to be honest

Do you think that was because the manager "wasn't bothered"?

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Here's a correct fact for you.

He signed shit players and we got relegated.

So excuse me if don't feel the need to fellate somebody who left the club in the very same position he found us in, and had the luxury of 7 years grace to do it in. Least of all a nasty bastard who takes pot shots of us every chance he gets.

Still, I'm sure many will clap him like demented seals when Cardiff come to town. Because of a few nice days out in the cup games....

Go on then. Here is your chance to highlight all the snidey pot shots he takes us at every chance he gets.
I presume this extends beyond praising the players and fans of his current club as most managers do?

 

[LoughboroBlade]

upon leaving all of his clubs they've either been in a worse state than when he went there, or at best, in a similar situation.

I think Oldham, Bury and Leeds are the only clubs that can legitimately claim weren’t improved significantly by Warnock during his spells at their clubs. The rest are, which is why he’s held in high regard by their fans.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Do you think that was because the manager "wasn't bothered"?

I haven't got a clue to be honest. The players certainly didn't seem to give much of shit that day. It seemed like they'd been sent out to cut our losses instead of taking the game to them. they certainly put up more of a fight against Man Utd.

 

[oldblade]

The Villa game was embarrassing to be honest

Villa were celebrating the 25th anniversary of winning the European cup. They were absolutely on fire and Manchester United would have found them a handful that day.

We didn't play well, but Villa were particularly fired up and made us look even worse than we were.

 

[BushBlade]

Villa were celebrating the 25th anniversary of winning the European cup. They were absolutely on fire and Manchester United would have found them a handful that day.

We didn't play well, but Villa were particularly fired up and made us look even worse than we were.

They'd also recently appointed MO'N and were trying to impress him.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Go on then. Here is your chance to highlight all the snidey pot shots he takes us at every chance he gets.
I presume this extends beyond praising the players and fans of his current club as most managers do?

By loudly pronouncing their fans as the "best ever"? That's not praise, that's a dig and he knows it, even if you don't.

Wibbling about how hard done by he was by the club and the fans in most interviews and in his book. Which for some reason I still own?

Practically begging for the Wednesday job in 2013?

Saying, unprompted how he'd "love" to beat us before the Cardiff match?

He's a clown and doesn't have a shred of dignity about him.

I look at what Chris Wilder has done for this club, and his love for it, the contrast is obvious. He's everything Colin pretended to be. I wouldn't swap one season with Wilder for 6 under Warnock, that's for damn sure.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Practically begging for the Wednesday job in 2013?

It was Mandaric that was doing the begging was it not?

 

[Sean Thornton]

It was Mandaric that was doing the begging was it not?

In Colinspeak, this article will show that MM was "begging".

Obviously Neil can't understand him, because he also thought he'd been offered the Pompey job, which is what caused a problem for him later.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...l-warnock-is-in-the-running-to-be-new-manager

 

[alcoblade]

Speeds average pts total extrapolated over the season would have seen us finish in 19th.

I just recall feeling that we were getting worse, not better under him. Shite, either way.

 

[alcoblade]

By loudly pronouncing their fans as the "best ever"? That's not praise, that's a dig and he knows it, even if you don't.

Wibbling about how hard done by he was by the club and the fans in most interviews and in his book. Which for some reason I still own?

Practically begging for the Wednesday job in 2013?

Saying, unprompted how he'd "love" to beat us before the Cardiff match?

He's a clown and doesn't have a shred of dignity about him.

I look at what Chris Wilder has done for this club, and his love for it, the contrast is obvious. He's everything Colin pretended to be. I wouldn't swap one season with Wilder for 6 under Warnock, that's for damn sure.

I think you need to separate the opinion of his personality ( you’re not far off there) from his managerial ability, where you’re miles off the mark

He’s record as a manager is absolutely superb. That includes his work for us, where we transformed as a club, if not positionally overall.

 

[Bayingblade]

Hardly. The Portsmouth affair did happen, he did spunk the Premiership budget on crap and he has been making nasty digs at us since. It's all pretty easy to see if you take a look.

And still people fall for the 'Mr Big Blade' bollocks even 10 years after he left.

It baffles me that anyone still retains even a semblance of affection for the man just because we had a couple of big days out nearly 7 years.

I'm with you TD. People may disagree but IMHO, you can trace all our woes over the last 10+ years to the January transfer window in the PL. Warnock spunked about £5Million on players who hardly made a contribution. One quality signing who would have been a starter from day 1 would have been enough. I don't fall for his "big blade" bollocks either. The most important thing in Mr Warnocks life is Mr Warnock. I'll accept he's a good manager at this level. But he's fucking useless in the PL so if Cardiff do go up, the first thing they should do is sack him.

 

[Maidenhead]

Villa were celebrating the 25th anniversary of winning the European cup. They were absolutely on fire and Manchester United would have found them a handful that day.

We didn't play well, but Villa were particularly fired up and made us look even worse than we were.

Yep. that's exactly how I remember it too.

I knew we we're in trouble before the teams even came out, the atmosphere was electric and the place was rocking.

Just unfortunate for us that we happened to be the opposition on the day, they would have smashed anyone.