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For non Blades football fans Ian Rush is a player they'd have no idea he played for us, but he was that bad for us he's seared into our conscious despite his few appearances.
 



Swannyblade said:
How about Jean Calve, David McAllister & Lee Evans as a "would have been forgotten if they hadn't scored screamers" niche category.

Any others?

* Trai Dellas doesn't count as he'd still have been memorable because of his post Blades career.
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McAllister.Opening game in 2012 v Shrewsbury?
 
Revolution said:
Players who made a single league appearance for United, 1991-2 to 2019-20

Nathan Peel 1991-2 v Tottenham (sub)
Mervyn Day 1991-2 v Wimbledon
Carl Muggleton 1995-6 v Reading (sub)
John Ebbrell 1996-7 v Reading
Chris Bettney 1996-7 v Tranmere (sub)
Brian Launders 1999-2000 v Stockport
Manu Thetis 2000-1 v Gillingham (sub)
Ryan Mallon 2001-2 v Grimsby (sub)
Lewis Killeen 2001-2 v Walsall (sub)
Richard Edghill 2002-3 v Ipswich (sub)
Gary Kelly 2002-3 v Watford
Lee Baxter 2003-4 v Burnley
Phil Barnes 2004-5 v Rotherham
Tommy Johnson 2004-5 v Rotherham
Emmanuel Gabrieli 2004-5 v Gillingham (sub)
Danny Batth 2010-11 v Swansea (sub)
Graham Kelly 2015-16 v Coventry (sub)
Nathan Thomas 2017-18 v Norwich (sub)
Regan Slater 2017-18 v Preston (sub)
Jake Eastwood 2017-18 v Wolves (sub)
Ravel Morrison 2019-20 v Leicester (sub)
Jack Rodwell 2019-20 v Burnley (sub)

The bolded players also featured in at least one cup game.
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It’s already been mentioned, but who on earth is Graham Kelly!?
 
Just tuning into the new ep now. Still remember the utter confusion all over the pitch when that goal went in.
 
I still get angry about this game and would much rather we had walked off and stayed off
Great pod again really enjoying these
 
Loved this. Great to hear Beans again!

I may be misremembering this (I was only 10/11) at the time but I feel like on the match of the day dissection of the game afterwards that Lynam asks the others ‘what if Sheffield United had equalised in the game’ and it might have been Brooking replying ‘well they would have probably thought justice had been done’ and I distinctly remember thinking well no justice wouldn’t have been done because if we scored again we should have won!!
 
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Roygbiv said:
New episode out with Beans as we go back to 1999 to talk about the Arsenal game that never was

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Memory Lane #007 | "CATCH ME IF YOU KANU" – When Arsenal asked us to do it again, with Ben Meakin

Kanu, controversy, and a re-match. Were Sheffield United involved in football’s strangest acts of cheating and sportsmanship?
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As said on the pod, Overmars is the real villain here - Kami received that throw in and didn't really look like he knew what was going on (I suspect he did) - MO then sprints 50 yards to put the ball in the net.

Kanu was a handy excuse (first game etc) but I also felt there was a little bit of a colonial attitude to the incident - i.e. how could a savage from Africa possibly understand the nuance of the game? Very distasteful for a play who had played in both Italy and the Netherlands at the time.

A PR masterclass from Arsenal. And as noted it what is forgotten is they got to have a crack at us a second time, at home, and put out a significantly stronger side.

It makes me irrationally angry how well they are thought of about that incident. They should have put the ball in their own net immediately.
 
Roygbiv said:
New episode out with Beans as we go back to 1999 to talk about the Arsenal game that never was

www.thepinch.uk

Memory Lane #007 | "CATCH ME IF YOU KANU" – When Arsenal asked us to do it again, with Ben Meakin

Kanu, controversy, and a re-match. Were Sheffield United involved in football’s strangest acts of cheating and sportsmanship?
www.thepinch.uk www.thepinch.uk
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My main memory of the match was Bruce’s half hearted attempt to get the players to walk off. I remember my dear mother taking the piss, “off you come chaps”.

The other memory was Bergkamp scoring a fantastic goal in the re -arranged game.

Looking back. Shit season. By April we’d sold anyone decent. Revolving doors of players. That Italian guy on the board.
 
Selly said:
As said on the pod, Overmars is the real villain here - Kami received that throw in and didn't really look like he knew what was going on (I suspect he did) - MO then sprints 50 yards to put the ball in the net.

Kanu was a handy excuse (first game etc) but I also felt there was a little bit of a colonial attitude to the incident - i.e. how could a savage from Africa possibly understand the nuance of the game? Very distasteful for a play who had played in both Italy and the Netherlands at the time.

A PR masterclass from Arsenal. And as noted it what is forgotten is they got to have a crack at us a second time, at home, and put out a significantly stronger side.

It makes me irrationally angry how well they are thought of about that incident. They should have put the ball in their own net immediately.
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Yeah, the talk was definitely about how Kanu was basically too much of a simpleton to understand what was happening. As you say, the guy had come from what was then the best league in the world!
 
Gin&Juice said:
My main memory of the match was Bruce’s half hearted attempt to get the players to walk off. I remember my dear mother taking the piss, “off you come chaps”.

The other memory was Bergkamp scoring a fantastic goal in the re -arranged game.

Looking back. Shit season. By April we’d sold anyone decent. Revolving doors of players. That Italian guy on the board.
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The interview with McCabe in the programme post Arsenal is wild in hindsight. Talks about how we don't need to sell anybody. Few months later, everybody was off
 
Revolution said:
Players who made a single league appearance for United, 1991-2 to 2019-20

Nathan Peel 1991-2 v Tottenham (sub)
Mervyn Day 1991-2 v Wimbledon
Carl Muggleton 1995-6 v Reading (sub)
John Ebbrell 1996-7 v Reading
Chris Bettney 1996-7 v Tranmere (sub)
Brian Launders 1999-2000 v Stockport
Manu Thetis 2000-1 v Gillingham (sub)
Ryan Mallon 2001-2 v Grimsby (sub)
Lewis Killeen 2001-2 v Walsall (sub)
Richard Edghill 2002-3 v Ipswich (sub)
Gary Kelly 2002-3 v Watford
Lee Baxter 2003-4 v Burnley
Phil Barnes 2004-5 v Rotherham
Tommy Johnson 2004-5 v Rotherham
Emmanuel Gabrieli 2004-5 v Gillingham (sub)
Danny Batth 2010-11 v Swansea (sub)
Graham Kelly 2015-16 v Coventry (sub)
Nathan Thomas 2017-18 v Norwich (sub)
Regan Slater 2017-18 v Preston (sub)
Jake Eastwood 2017-18 v Wolves (sub)
Ravel Morrison 2019-20 v Leicester (sub)
Jack Rodwell 2019-20 v Burnley (sub)

The bolded players also featured in at least one cup game.
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Honourable mentions for a couple who made the headlines but never played in the first team...

- Dmitris Markos - Greek international from Panathanikos. Signed the same season as Borbokis and Dellas. Played in the reserves but contractual issues meant he wasn't able to sign properly. This is insipite of support from a certain Sepp Blatter.

- Ville Lehtinen - Finish player who was in the reserves. Was on the front of the News of The World as part of the Leicester City "La Manga" incident. So called "Ex-Sheffield United star".
 
Aganarama said:
Honourable mentions for a couple who made the headlines but never played in the first team...

- Dmitris Markos - Greek international from Panathanikos. Signed the same season as Borbokis and Dellas. Played in the reserves but contractual issues meant he wasn't able to sign properly. This is insipite of support from a certain Sepp Blatter.

- Ville Lehtinen - Finish player who was in the reserves. Was on the front of the News of The World as part of the Leicester City "La Manga" incident. So called "Ex-Sheffield United star".
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Danny Wainwright, a youth teamer, was on the bench as the goalkeeper substitute in our 2-0 home win v Southampton in the first PL season. He was not needed and was released before he made a first team appearance, and I don't think he played a league game for anyone.
 



I will be very dissapointed if I dont hear an hour of you all trying to explain how / why people get in to the "sexy 11".
 
Roygbiv said:
New episode out with Beans as we go back to 1999 to talk about the Arsenal game that never was

www.thepinch.uk

Memory Lane #007 | "CATCH ME IF YOU KANU" – When Arsenal asked us to do it again, with Ben Meakin

Kanu, controversy, and a re-match. Were Sheffield United involved in football’s strangest acts of cheating and sportsmanship?
www.thepinch.uk www.thepinch.uk
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Just finished this. Very good indeed. Two quick things:

1. Like you, I have never understood why the appearances and goals from the game were not included in player stats. The game was completed. It happened. This seems silly. One consequence is that it cost Marcelo a 20 goal season: he got 16 in the league and 3 others in the cup. As a result no one did this between 1990 (Deano) and 2003 (Brown).

2. When I started listening to the pod I went to check the lineups, which you had difficulty finding (Michael Twiss on as a sub? I had forgotten that!). They can be found in that years' Rothmans Football Yearbook, and also in the two complete record books produced by Messrs Clareborough and Kirkham, which also feature lineups for other odd games, including abandoned league games and the 3 league games played at the start of 1939-40 before War broke out and the season was abandoned.
 
Revolution said:
Just finished this. Very good indeed. Two quick things:

1. Like you, I have never understood why the appearances and goals from the game were not included in player stats. The game was completed. It happened. This seems silly. One consequence is that it cost Marcelo a 20 goal season: he got 16 in the league and 3 others in the cup. As a result no one did this between 1990 (Deano) and 2003 (Brown).

2. When I started listening to the pod I went to check the lineups, which you had difficulty finding (Michael Twiss on as a sub? I had forgotten that!). They can be found in that years' Rothmans Football Yearbook, and also in the two complete record books produced by Messrs Clareborough and Kirkham, which also feature lineups for other odd games, including abandoned league games and the 3 league games played at the start of 1939-40 before War broke out and the season was abandoned.
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Re: the first one, Marcelo scored in the final home game of the season v Bristol City and I have a memory of him holding up his hands to indicate "20". This confused the heck out of me for a good while when I went to write about him on the Pinch and couldn't find the 20-goal season for love nor money.
 
Revolution said:
1. Like you, I have never understood why the appearances and goals from the game were not included in player stats. The game was completed. It happened. This seems silly. One consequence is that it cost Marcelo a 20 goal season: he got 16 in the league and 3 others in the cup. As a result no one did this between 1990 (Deano) and 2003 (Brown).
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We should campaign for the record books to be corrected.

#JusticeForJohn
 
Roygbiv said:
New episode out and the first in a 2-parter where we go through some of the most memorable commentary moments in United's history.

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Memory Lane #008 | "Wanna live like common-tator people..." – Chris MacMillan's top 14 commentary moments

The lines, the rhymes, the voices – commentary moments you can see as you hear them.
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Another excellent podcast - thank you chaps - and looking forward to part 2. The selection so far underlines the explosion of football on TV from the turn of the century (even in the 90s, it wasn't wall to wall as it became), and makes you realise that for the memorable media for our 1990 promotion was an aligning of the stars through the BBC documentary, rather than traditional commentary. "Zone man" anybody? ;)

A couple of quick things that had me talking about to the podcast, as you do...

1) Martin Tyler covered football in the region in the late 70s/early 80s and so those early Premier League games and subsequent Warnock cup games felt more like a he covered us before he was really famous than a "he's talking about us" (thanks to the various United VHS videos that were well watched as a kid!). I think like that more when you hear the odd occasion that Barry Davies covered a United match.
PS Someone recently posted on here Tyler's own podcast where he talked about commentating on a United V Orient game where they had to wear the away kit of our neighbours. Worth a listen/watch.

2) The Boro game was a Saturday teatime Sky one. As a season ticket holder living at the opposite end of the country, if it wasn't Sat. 3pm then it was a no-no for me. One of the "exciting" things about promotion was being on Sky more - and having to fork out for the extra games add-on (can't remember what it was called - Premier Plus?).

3) John Champion - for me, he was soundtrack to the Warnock promotion season as it seemed he was always commentating on our games on ITV's "The Championship".

4) Peter Jenkins - you can hear him on The Wives episode of the "United" series when we are at Portsmouth. As for other Radio Sheffield/VHS commentators, an honourable mention goes to Gareth Hampshire. He was a main stay for a while (mid-90s on). And I think Simon Clarke was a Hull fan.
 
Aganarama said:
Another excellent podcast - thank you chaps - and looking forward to part 2. The selection so far underlines the explosion of football on TV from the turn of the century (even in the 90s, it wasn't wall to wall as it became), and makes you realise that for the memorable media for our 1990 promotion was an aligning of the stars through the BBC documentary, rather than traditional commentary. "Zone man" anybody? ;)

A couple of quick things that had me talking about to the podcast, as you do...

1) Martin Tyler covered football in the region in the late 70s/early 80s and so those early Premier League games and subsequent Warnock cup games felt more like a he covered us before he was really famous than a "he's talking about us" (thanks to the various United VHS videos that were well watched as a kid!). I think like that more when you hear the odd occasion that Barry Davies covered a United match.
PS Someone recently posted on here Tyler's own podcast where he talked about commentating on a United V Orient game where they had to wear the away kit of our neighbours. Worth a listen/watch.

2) The Boro game was a Saturday teatime Sky one. As a season ticket holder living at the opposite end of the country, if it wasn't Sat. 3pm then it was a no-no for me. One of the "exciting" things about promotion was being on Sky more - and having to fork out for the extra games add-on (can't remember what it was called - Premier Plus?).

3) John Champion - for me, he was soundtrack to the Warnock promotion season as it seemed he was always commentating on our games on ITV's "The Championship".

4) Peter Jenkins - you can hear him on The Wives episode of the "United" series when we are at Portsmouth. As for other Radio Sheffield/VHS commentators, an honourable mention goes to Gareth Hampshire. He was a main stay for a while (mid-90s on). And I think Simon Clarke was a Hull fan.
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You're spot on here. Our next episode after this is going to be about the old VHS tapes and you're right that Tyler covered us (and all other top flight clubs) before he was Mr Sky Sports

Was Jenkins a commentator or the host/summarizer? I can't quite remember
 
Roygbiv said:
You're spot on here. Our next episode after this is going to be about the old VHS tapes and you're right that Tyler covered us (and all other top flight clubs) before he was Mr Sky Sports

Was Jenkins a commentator or the host/summarizer? I can't quite remember
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Jenkins was the reporter/commentator at the match on Radio Hallam (I have hazy memories of listening to the cup game at Pompey just after Bassett took over - I had the big cans on and my Dad not believing me when we scored after 21 seconds!). Like you say on the pod, there wasn't the amount of commentary that we are used to now (i.e. full matches). Though you did have Bob Jackson and the marching band on Radio Sheffield.

There was also back and forth over who had the rights to the United matches - at one point (mid-90s) Hallam FM had exclusive match commentary, with the likes of Steve Banyard.

Can't wait for the video one! The quality of the CBS Fox 90-91 production was never beaten (My brother and I still quote it - sad, I know). My United collection is all still there in a box in my attic...next to the boxed VHS player.
 
Aganarama said:
Jenkins was the reporter/commentator at the match on Radio Hallam (I have hazy memories of listening to the cup game at Pompey just after Bassett took over - I had the big cans on and my Dad not believing me when we scored after 21 seconds!). Like you say on the pod, there wasn't the amount of commentary that we are used to now (i.e. full matches). Though you did have Bob Jackson and the marching band on Radio Sheffield.

There was also back and forth over who had the rights to the United matches - at one point (mid-90s) Hallam FM had exclusive match commentary, with the likes of Steve Banyard.

Can't wait for the video one! The quality of the CBS Fox 90-91 production was never beaten (My brother and I still quote it - sad, I know). My United collection is all still there in a box in my attic...next to the boxed VHS player.
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I have a vague memory, and all the names in this might be wrong, that Jenkins was doing a United game with I think Andy Scott, and Scott had to take over commentary for a few minutes because Jenkins spilt coffee all over himself.
 
Roygbiv said:
New episode out where try to compile the most forgotten United 11 of all time. Be interesting to hear other people's "shit, I forgot all about them" teams

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Memory Lane #006 | "LET'S (FOR)GET IT STARTED, IN HEEEEEERE" – Creating a Blades-You'd-Forgotten-Played-For-Us XI

An ocean of Sheffield United players you may have forgotten ever played for the club. Come on in, the water is lovely.
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I have finally finished this fine pod and feel the need to blurt things out about some of the players you mention.

You got a little bit confused with the CBs. Sagi Burton did not play at Stockport - he was an unused sub and never played a game. There was a second debutant that day - Ben Doane came on for Brian Launders. Jody Craddock played under Heath, not Spackman. He was one of our better players in his 10 game spell.

Mark Foran is memorable to me as a scored a McGuiness like header in an exciting 3-3 draw v Wolves in 1994-5. I thought he was decent but he was awful the season after.

Paul Parker gave one the worst displays I have ever seen from a Blades player in a 2-1 win at Bradford on Boxing Day 1996. He was subbed and never played again.

John Halls was a wing back who could also play CB. Not really a midfielder.

Checking back I saw 5 of Paul Simpson’s 6 games for us. I do not remember him doing anything notable though I do remember Martin Aldridge’s first half hat trick in the 4-1 defeat at Oxford when Matt Elliott terrorised us on set pieces. Poor old Aldridge was killed in a car crash at 28.

Andy Sayer was a peculiar signing to say the least. I remember him coming on v Norwich. It was an Dave Bassett old boy signing as you say.

When Izale McLeod was with us he was rubbish but two of his four goals for Derby were against us and that’s the sort of thing that got you signed by Warnock. See also Brennan Johnson’s Dad.

I was there when Carl Muggleton played at Reading at the end of 1996. He had to come on with us 2-0 up with a few minutes left as Chris Short had a bad knock (he flew over the advertising hoarding) and could not carry on. Muggleton did touch the ball - he chested down a throw in on the touchline and kicked it over his head and upfield, to widespread acclaim. He was also in the penalty area when we broke in injury time and we were 4 on 2 or something. Sadly Dane Whitehouse beat him to the cross and scored the third.
 



Revolution said:
I have finally finished this fine pod and feel the need to blurt things out about some of the players you mention.

You got a little bit confused with the CBs. Sagi Burton did not play at Stockport - he was an unused sub and never played a game. There was a second debutant that day - Ben Doane came on for Brian Launders. Jody Craddock played under Heath, not Spackman. He was one of our better players in his 10 game spell.

Mark Foran is memorable to me as a scored a McGuiness like header in an exciting 3-3 draw v Wolves in 1994-5. I thought he was decent but he was awful the season after.

Paul Parker gave one the worst displays I have ever seen from a Blades player in a 2-1 win at Bradford on Boxing Day 1996. He was subbed and never played again.

John Halls was a wing back who could also play CB. Not really a midfielder.

Checking back I saw 5 of Paul Simpson’s 6 games for us. I do not remember him doing anything notable though I do remember Martin Aldridge’s first half hat trick in the 4-1 defeat at Oxford when Matt Elliott terrorised us on set pieces. Poor old Aldridge was killed in a car crash at 28.

Andy Sayer was a peculiar signing to say the least. I remember him coming on v Norwich. It was an Dave Bassett old boy signing as you say.

When Izale McLeod was with us he was rubbish but two of his four goals for Derby were against us and that’s the sort of thing that got you signed by Warnock. See also Brennan Johnson’s Dad.

I was there when Carl Muggleton played at Reading at the end of 1996. He had to come on with us 2-0 up with a few minutes left as Chris Short had a bad knock (he flew over the advertising hoarding) and could not carry on. Muggleton did touch the ball - he chested down a throw in on the touchline and kicked it over his head and upfield, to widespread acclaim. He was also in the penalty area when we broke in injury time and we were 4 on 2 or something. Sadly Dane Whitehouse beat him to the cross and scored the third.
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Great pick up on Sagi Burton. I've mixed up two things there with him and Ben Doane. I always had Craddock down as a Bruce signing until Sam mentioned the year. Remember him being decent. I presume he was alongside Shaun Murphy? I recall him being awful under Heath.

Had no idea about Aldridge. When Sam mentioned him, I thought he was on about John Aldridge at first but obviously he was at Oxford years before
 
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