Meltdown over......

[Sheffsteel]

The difference with us and Evans is we have a significant number of fans who think he didn't do anything wrong and would have continued to think that regardless of appeals, retrials etc.
That wasn't the case with the Plymouth goalie.
The issue we've got is whether the club is vindicating those supporters or whether the club cares.
I doubt Plymouth fans sang about the goalie killing whoever he wants but you know what's going to happen with our supporters.
As for sticking two fingers up, who are we sticking two fingers up to? Women who've been treated badly by men?

Maybe it's sticking 2 fingers up to the control against freedom of speech and the trial by Twitter culture. I tried to give alternative rational views on forums and was called a rapist sympathiser etc. It's really dangerous that there's a culture where you aren't allowed to give views that might cause offence. Rape is an emotive subject meaning some people are inane to make logical/ valid points.

The sad thing is that the Ched case was used by so many different groups for their own agendas.
Truth and justice wasn't important, he was used as a sacrificial lamb for a greater and worthwhile cause.

The public wanted blood, it reminds me of the pitch fork hillbilly brigade who hunt someone down because justice has to be seen to be done, the person being hunted is irrelevant and just collateral damage.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

In the Jan transfer window Wilder refused to rule out the possibility of moving for Evans.

That for me would say that he was interested in signing him & that this signing has his backing.

If we applied that 'refused to rule out' rule to every player Wilder has been asked about we'd be looking at about 50 players since he joined us. I'm not saying he isn't on board, but I wouldn't take that alone as an indication. We'll get a fairly clear idea when he's interviewed, and I doubt we'd have pressed ahead unless he could at the very least live with the idea if not actively push for.

 

[LurkerBlade]

The basis of your opinion is flawed LB. Its generally those with negative things to say that post. Those who agree just accept and keep quiet.

On most of the things I have read that allow free flowing conversation the split has been pretty equal, but as I said it's the number of negative comments NOT that the negative comments outnumber the positive.

It's not just whether we do well next season for me, which I trust Wilder on completely, it's about the reputation we have as a club for now and in the future.

I wish I could just say "I don't care what people think about my club" but I can't, it does matter & I want us to be known as a family club with family values.

He has been acquitted & should be given a second chance, but this will impact our reputation & that matters to me more than an extra 20 goals, I realise others disagree.

 

[Blade56]

On most of the things I have read that allow free flowing conversation the split has been pretty equal, but as I said it's the number of negative comments NOT that the negative comments outnumber the positive.

It's not just whether we do well next season for me, which I trust Wilder on completely, it's about the reputation we have as a club for now and in the future.

I wish I could just say "I don't care what people think about my club" but I can't, it does matter & I want us to be known as a family club with family values.

He has been acquitted & should be given a second chance, but this will impact our reputation & that matters to me more than an extra 20 goals, I realise others disagree.

This will be tomorra's chip paper. Who cares what others think for a short time

 

[LoughboroBlade]

The sad thing is that the Ched case was used by so many different groups for their own agendas.
Truth and justice wasn't important, he was used as a sacrificial lamb for a greater and worthwhile cause

The sad thing was that we didn't do the sensible thing a couple of years ago and wait for him to clear his name before offering him a deal. Most of the unpleasantness around that understandably stemmed from the perception of us rushing to sign a convicted rapist fresh out of prison. The club's complete lack of understanding on that point, and failure to realise how it would land nationally, unfortunately provides the uncomfortable background to this story that everyone remembers first and foremost. That could have been avoided – and has made this process of signing him a little more difficult than it would have otherwise been. It is a bigger story now because of the mishandling of the situation previously.

 

[pommpey]

Like Duffy before him.

And Murphy before him. Quinn, Kyles, Macdonald, Maguire ...

etc

pommpey

 

[Pedro's Winger]

In the eyes of the law,Ched Evans has not done anything wrong

Lot more to it than that and the technicalities of the law didn't matter to a significant proportion of our fans, whether he was guilty in a court or not.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Lot more to it than that and the technicalities of the law didn't matter to a significant proportion of our fans, whether he was guilty in a court or not.

No there is really not more to it than that,Ched Evans is an innocent man,much as that upsets you,that is the reality

 

[Isar]

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I was speaking about the number of comments not the content of those comments, I have based my opinion due to the amount of negative feedback on all the sources I stated which included twitter & facebook.

Just the same as any company should take note of the comments on all these different types of media, If I feel a decision is damaging the reputation of the club I love then I will weigh up those opinions.

A decent effort at selective quoting though.

Thank you.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

It's vitally important to know what some work colleague you don't give a shit about is having for their tea, or to look at their holiday pictures. All hail Facebook*

*I may be being a tad sarcastic here

Has she got big tits?

 

[Sheffsteel]

No there is really not more to it than that,Ched Evans is an innocent man,much as that upsets you,that is the reality

That is the bottom line, it changes everything.

Ched now joins a group of players that is nationally disliked like JohnTerry, Joey Barton, Ashley Cole etc.

Never done Chelsea and Arsenal any harm to have players regularly booed. Then you have players like Rio Ferdinand, Rooney where people ignore their morals and hero worship them.

 

[GrayBlade]

The difference with us and Evans is we have a significant number of fans who think he didn't do anything wrong and would have continued to think that regardless of appeals, retrials etc.
That wasn't the case with the Plymouth goalie.
The issue we've got is whether the club is vindicating those supporters or whether the club cares.
I doubt Plymouth fans sang about the goalie killing whoever he wants but you know what's going to happen with our supporters.
As for sticking two fingers up, who are we sticking two fingers up to? Women who've been treated badly by men?

Don't try putting words into my mouth for effect. You know exactly who and what I meant by the media..

And as for Plymouth and their fans, (and let's be clear I'm not defending the Blades who sang Evans could shag who he wants in case you try to pull that one), it was an open and shut case from the off. McCormick pleaded guilty of causing death by dangerous driving whilst under the influence of alcohol, so they could hardly defend him could they?

McCormick's 'reward' on his release was to be made Plymouth club captain, here's a picture of their fans mobbing him only last weekend after they won promotion. Is that them sticking two fingers up to the young lad's Mom and her paraplegic husband and any other families affected by drunken drivers? You ok with that by defending it? Nah of course not, it'd be as stupid as inferring I was talking about women who've been treated badly by men wouldn't it?

 

[Pedro's Winger]

No there is really not more to it than that,Ched Evans is an innocent man,much as that upsets you,that is the reality

National media coverage and tens of thousands of views on this forum alone suggest there is more to it.
Doubt it's going to go away and when the chanting starts along with the rapist taunts from opposition fans, we'll all be reminded of it on a regular basis.
We'd turned a corner and this season was about new players, a new team, a new manager, a new attitude, a new feel about the club.
Instead, the most talked about thing now is a player who last turned out for us five years ago.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

National media coverage and tens of thousands of views on this forum alone suggest there is more to it.
Doubt it's going to go away and when the chanting starts along with the rapist taunts from opposition fans, we'll all be reminded of it on a regular basis.
We'd turned a corner and this season was about new players, a new team, a new manager, a new attitude, a new feel about the club.
Instead, the most talked about thing now is a player who last turned out for us five years ago.

It's because of people like you who won't let an innocent man get on with his life,you don't want it to go away,you want to hound the man

 

[Tezza1889]

The Championship will have forgotten we even exist after the media devoid six years in league one... as for being unpopular.... aren't we all used to it, what we've got to stop is letting others tell us what to do, and we need to show some balls like certain other clubs have with the controvertial players they've had...

Time for sheff Utd to do what it wants, not what others tell us, half of it is shit stirred by wendies on piss take.... we need to stick to our guns and to hell with those who want to hold us back... we need to dance to our own tune...

 

[Pollingtonblade]

The club has grown a pair of bollocks this season it's about time some of its fans did.

 

[Keen Blade]

Why is our chairman so pathologically stupid ?

He ought to hate Evans for costing us promotion in 2012 , by his stupidly promiscuous behaviour , whether rapist or not.

And Evans is physically crocked now anyway , with a recurring ankle injury , which has seen him unable to play for Chesterfield , as they battled to escape relegation.

Forget the “fit & proper” test for a Club owner .........it should be an IQ test.

 

[Pedro's Winger]

The club has grown a pair of bollocks this season it's about time some of its fans did.

What the club has achieved this season had absolutely nothing to do with Ched Evans and remarkably it has grown a pair of bollocks without him.

 

[sheffielder]

What's happened is exactly what radio sheffield wanted to happen when leaking the story. Some like it some don't. I don't but that's my opinion which I am going to keep having, whether people try to
Belittle it or not

 

[BushBlade]

The club has grown a pair of bollocks this season it's about time some of its fans did.

I'm thinking about growing some tits.

 

[The Crab]

Has she got big tits?

Decent

 

[Harrisblade]

tens of thousands of views on this forum alone suggest there is more to it.

I think you'll find that of the tens of thousands, a large majority will be from the same 5 or 6 people arguing with each other about the same things over multiple threads!
Think more in the hundreds

 

[Sean Thornton]

I think you'll find that of the tens of thousands, a large majority will be from the same 5 or 6 people arguing with each other about the same things over multiple threads!
Think more in the hundreds

Shut your rattle

 

[Iceybabey]

As ever, this isn't about Wilder. We all back the bloke who has turned this club round and made us the champions we are.

Spunking x hundred grand on a footballing pariah and someone who has not shown anything of what he was before his incarceration stinks of McCabe. I don't give a fat fuck if his conviction was quashed, who shagged who or what people think he is all about. His history and association with SUFC has caused this club no end of woe in the past and if it turns out we did spend half a fucking million on him - however people say 'that's fuck all in the Championship' it is half a fucking million - and he spends next season sitting it out on the bench, injured or not even scoring like he has this season - then what?

It is a shake of the dice which does not need to be done. There will be plenty of out of contract options soon to bring to the Lane and integrate with the team, and if the promises are fulfilled, plenty of want-away transferees from bigger, better clubs, fully fit with Champ or PL experience who could move straight in and do the job. People once again are dusting over the implications of this daft, risky move and if it is daft and risky, that isn't how Wilder does his business. All season he has been safe, solid and consistent. No risks.

As said, best Evans gets fit, gets busy and starts shitting silver dollars. He has a lot to prove.

pommpey

Best response i've read regarding this Ched business.