McEveley's yellow card

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I was sat on the opposite side to the incident (contested a header leading with his arm), but it looked a bad one from where I was sat.

Was it that bad? Lucky for the second home game running not to get a red?
 



It looked like a UFC manoeuvre to me, what he was thinking about only he knows. The referees seem reluctant to show him a red card thankfully :)
 
Looked like he just smashed him in the face (from the kop)

I thought he was going to get sent off. Was it on our ex-right back? If so he was always one for feigning a bit so maybe it wasn't bad.
 
Looked like a forearm smash from the days of wrestling on World of Sport.

He also got booked away at Bradford very early on.

Either knows how to walk the tightrope or he's been extremely fortunate.

One thing is after the first yellow in the last two home games he's not really been close to a second yellow, which makes me think there's an element of control and premeditation.

One day it will be red, and that could cost us a game.
 
I'm happy for McEveley to do that for the rest of the season, even at the risk of being carded. Shows willingness to fight for the cause, and I certainly won't criticise that.

I never want to see the pre-December United ever again, scared shitless of their own shadow.

Keep it up Jay, you might yet prove your worth.
 
Whilst his performance yesterday was much better he is a car crash waiting to happen - Not sure if it's me, but, his body language appears so negative - A captain and a leader he is not - I think The Beard would be a much better choice !
 
Whilst his performance yesterday was much better he is a car crash waiting to happen - Not sure if it's me, but, his body language appears so negative - A captain and a leader he is not - I think The Beard would be a much better choice !
Whilst I have no argument about the captaincy, He carried Woolford against Coventry and the number of times he digs Collins out is unbelievable, even from left back.
 
Looked bad but McMahon got up as soon as the ref gave a yellow card.
Absolutely no one should be surprised what that twat does. Maybe my recollection isn't right but he didn't ask for any treatment.

On that basis, I'm pretty sure there can't have been much contact, he's a known cheating chuff.
 
McEveley was clumsy and late, not really nasty.

He was going to go for the header, but McMahon jumped first and McEveley sort of jumped into him. McMahon actually got his arm highest, on top of McEveley's shoulder, while McEveley's arm struck McMahon's ribs as they clashed. There may also have been an extra shove from McEveley at the end, the sort of stuff that we do at the moment to show who's biggest and strongest. McMahon, unsurprisingly, went down like he'd been elbowed in the face.
 
Shows over folks, you can stop vilifying McEveley today.
 
Surely it's a case of "get in and let him know you're there". Yeah he's been lucky but if he's up against a fast, tricky winger then the winger may bottle it for the rest of the game.
 
It's often a sign of a player getting on and losing his timing or no longer being quick enough for the level he's playing at. It's something I've feared about McEveley for a while.

He's whole hearted and tries his best, in fact his performances were very good when he first arrived. Sadly those performances have deteriorated and cynical challenges are the first sign of needing to be moved on.
 
It's often a sign of a player getting on and losing his timing or no longer being quick enough for the level he's playing at. It's something I've feared about McEveley for a while.

He's whole hearted and tries his best, in fact his performances were very good when he first arrived. Sadly those performances have deteriorated and cynical challenges are the first sign of needing to be moved on.

It's a sign of no such thing, the very best players make late challenges all the time. Cynical challenges even more so, just look through the likes of John Terrys career.
 



I'm happy for McEveley to do that for the rest of the season, even at the risk of being carded. Shows willingness to fight for the cause, and I certainly won't criticise that.

I never want to see the pre-December United ever again, scared shitless of their own shadow.

Keep it up Jay, you might yet prove your worth.


And that's exactly why he is in the team that has been picked since the Shrewsbury game. We are the bullies now, not the bullied.

If all goes to plan maybe the team selection can be refined a little, indeed it will have to be altered as injuries and suspensions bite.
 
Totally needless foul to give away and a booking meant that he was treading the tightrope throughout the rest of the match. Having said that I thought he had a good game and has shown a big improvement since coming back into the side, hope it continues.
 
Hard to see from the Kop but from what we could see, you might not call it lucky it wasn't red but we wouldn't have been unduly surprised if he had got one.

He seems to have one big foul in him each game and then going on to have a steady performance. He's been pretty good recently. Unfortunately he might not be so lucky one of these days - most agree he should have walked against Coventry and referees will have seen that incident since.
 
It's as though someone has sat him down and asked what he can contribute now he's slower than his gran. Presumably his answer was "I can shoe people".
 
It's a sign of no such thing, the very best players make late challenges all the time. Cynical challenges even more so, just look through the likes of John Terrys career.

When they start making them regularly it's very much a sign of it. I've seen it many times over many years playing at various different levels of football.

When you have a player diving in hideously late with high feet and elbows once or twice every game its a big clue that they're passed their best.
 
McEveley was clumsy and late, not really nasty.

He was going to go for the header, but McMahon jumped first and McEveley sort of jumped into him. McMahon actually got his arm highest, on top of McEveley's shoulder, while McEveley's arm struck McMahon's ribs as they clashed. There may also have been an extra shove from McEveley at the end, the sort of stuff that we do at the moment to show who's biggest and strongest. McMahon, unsurprisingly, went down like he'd been elbowed in the face.

Fwiw I just watched it on BP and it looked a lot worse from the other side of the pitch where we sit.

Obviously it happened very quickly, but at the time it looked like he led with his forearm, and it looked a lot like there was intent, not just the usual self-protection.

The kind of incident where you can argue, "But ref I was just jumping naturally," but his arm was just in the wrong place for that imo.
 
I just thought he went in with the intent to get everything there, whether the ball was around or not. A bit like I imagine most people would want to tackle McMahon.
 
Hard to see what he did from the Kop, but a few "oos" went up. Wasn't suprised, but was pleased, to see Jay be the culprit of that tackle (obviously if it was a red, we'd be fuming) but pre-December he wouldn't have even got near the player..
 
From south stand pretty much in line with it (quite a few rows back) It looked like a headbutt.

Didn't seem like he was going for the ball (he was a foot under it) and seemed to head butt McMahon on his way down from jumping for the ball.
 
Fwiw I just watched it on BP and it looked a lot worse from the other side of the pitch where we sit.

Obviously it happened very quickly, but at the time it looked like he led with his forearm, and it looked a lot like there was intent, not just the usual self-protection.

The kind of incident where you can argue, "But ref I was just jumping naturally," but his arm was just in the wrong place for that imo.

I had to watch it in very slow motion to see what happened, but bottom line is that he was late and clumsy, and for that I think a yellow card was ok.

Regardless of how intentional it was, was the effect a bit similar to Vinny Jones' tackle on Liverpool's Steve McMahon in the 1988 cup final?

'If their top geezer gets sorted out early doors, you win' - Vinnie Jones




The clash certainly seemed to get the crowd going, Sharp got involved and we looked very much up for the fight. We didn't play great football in that first half, but there was enough happening on the pitch to keep the crowd engaged. McMahon (Tony) was quiet and didn't look to try and pick a fight/bully opponents, like he often did when he played for us.
 
I was sat on the opposite side to the incident (contested a header leading with his arm), but it looked a bad one from where I was sat.

Was it that bad? Lucky for the second home game running not to get a red?

Lucky for the umpteenth game to even get a shirt, not sure what Adkins sees in Jay Mac in training, but Kieran Wallace was certainly doing nothing to deserve dropping when Harris came back, now all of a sudden, he's back down the pecking order behind the second worst footballer at the club.

As for the incident, i didn't see it, however, from where i was sat and following the theme on here, it looked like he'd dressed up as David Cameron and massacred a load of flood victims before gunning down half of Paris, chanting in arabic, before calmly answering Tim Peake's phone call with a polite "fuck off, you've got the wrong number space twat". Finally, setting fire to Hoverboards around Britain and giving away spoilers to Star Wars in the Daily Mail. Or something like that
 
Didn't think it was awful, but a clear card and fairly pointless. Maybe trying to get a reaction from McMahon. I never like players needlessly putting themselves in a situation where a ref can make a rash decision. Go in hard when there's at least a chance of getting the ball.

Not really bothered about this incident though. It's not the reason I think McEveley's a poor footballer.
 


The clash certainly seemed to get the crowd going, Sharp got involved and we looked very much up for the fight. We didn't play great football in that first half, but there was enough happening on the pitch to keep the crowd engaged. McMahon (Tony) was quiet and didn't look to try and pick a fight/bully opponents, like he often did when he played for us.
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I had to watch it in very slow motion to see what happened, but bottom line is that he was late and clumsy, and for that I think a yellow card was ok.

Regardless of how intentional it was, was the effect a bit similar to Vinny Jones' tackle on Liverpool's Steve McMahon in the 1988 cup final?

'If their top geezer gets sorted out early doors, you win' - Vinnie Jones




The clash certainly seemed to get the crowd going, Sharp got involved and we looked very much up for the fight. We didn't play great football in that first half, but there was enough happening on the pitch to keep the crowd engaged. McMahon (Tony) was quiet and didn't look to try and pick a fight/bully opponents, like he often did when he played for us.


We're bullying in big and small ways all over the pitch atm.

A couple of details:

Their forward tried to face up to Long who previously would have been intimidated. He wasn't.

Ball goes out for a Bradford throw. Coutts just looks at it and walks away. An accumulation of these tiny incidents sends a message.

Also their 44 who looked pretty lively, a couple of our players were on his case.

Maybe Adkins has shown them a PsyOps video.

:-)
 



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