McCall issues "come and get me" message

[Trafford]

Very thinly disguised message here, even differentiating between why he couldn't come at Christmas but could come now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22569443

 

[Sothall_Blade]

The fact that no other clubs or their manager have received an official approach suggests to me that none of them are actually on our shortlist. Did we really expect United to pay out compensation when there are "free" manager's available?

 

[SotonBlade]

Very thinly disguised message here, even differentiating between why he couldn't come at Christmas but could come now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22569443

Spot on, I read that as a come and get me message as well. However, it seems he's put a deadline of Monday on it!

 

[Bladesway]

Or perhaps (and more likely) its an honest answer to an honest question. Does happen you know.

 

[Pinchy]

The fact that no other clubs or their manager have received an official approach suggests to me that none of them are actually on our shortlist. Did we really expect United to pay out compensation when there are "free" manager's available?

It's one of many curious features of our fans, that we take as gospel what other clubs say, but always assume that our own club either ignores or distorts the truth (that happens, of course, but so it does at other clubs!)

It's all sophistry. Of course we've made approaches, just not "official" ones.

If you want to know who's on our short list, William Hill's is not a bad place to start.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

It's one of many curious features of our fans, that we take as gospel what other clubs say, but always assume that our own club either ignores or distorts the truth (that happens, of course, but so it does at other clubs!)

It's all sophistry. Of course we've made approaches, just not "official" ones.

If you want to know who's on our short list, William Hill's is not a bad place to start.

We can't interview people for the job without making "official" approaches.
When do you think we're planning to do that?

 

[Torrix1889]

Reading between the lines I think he is fully expecting to be approached....

 

[OllyBlade]

"It's not definite I'll be speaking to anyone."

Hardly ruling it out but hard to read too much into these things.

 

[alcoblade]

"If they pay me enough cash, I will come"

Pool from approx 1,000,000 footballers / managers for appropriate name.


UTB

 

[Latters]

I'd be happy enough with McCall. Partly because I win fifty quid if it's him (not quite the £205 if it's Keith Curle) but because he's done well in Scotland.

People often cite the fact that the SPL is a poor standard, but two things counter this. Firstly, the level we are at is equally bad. What should count in our favour is that us and Wolves should be like the Celtic and Rangers (pre-financial difficulties) of this league.

Secondly, Motherwell, to my knowledge, were never a stand out team and were as bad as the rest of the non-Glasgow SPL, prior to McCall taking over, so he has obviously done something right to get them up to second.

 

[hykeham_blade]

Just throwing something into the ring here, but is this why we signed Murphy?

He played well for McCall so hopefully can find that sort of form again if his former manager does come to us. I would hope he would retain Morgan is some capacity or another, perhaps as assistant.

Guess we will just have to wait and see.

 

[oldblade]

I'd be happy enough with McCall. Partly because I win fifty quid if it's him (not quite the £205 if it's Keith Curle) but because he's done well in Scotland.

People often cite the fact that the SPL is a poor standard, but two things counter this. Firstly, the level we are at is equally bad. What should count in our favour is that us and Wolves should be like the Celtic and Rangers (pre-financial difficulties) of this league.

Secondly, Motherwell, to my knowledge, were never a stand out team and were as bad as the rest of the non-Glasgow SPL, prior to McCall taking over, so he has obviously done something right to get them up to second.

Not sure one way or the other with McCall. He has done well at Motherwell, but didn't do particularly well at Bradford City.

 

[Pinchy]

We can't interview people for the job without making "official" approaches.
When do you think we're planning to do that?

No, we can't "interview" them you're right. Maybe have a chat with them when we, by chance, bump into them in a hotel reception? Maybe have a chinwag over the dog and bone?

By the time you make an "official approach" you know exactly who you want, and so does he!

 

[Pinchy]

I'd be happy enough with McCall. Partly because I win fifty quid if it's him (not quite the £205 if it's Keith Curle) but because he's done well in Scotland.

People often cite the fact that the SPL is a poor standard, but two things counter this. Firstly, the level we are at is equally bad. What should count in our favour is that us and Wolves should be like the Celtic and Rangers (pre-financial difficulties) of this league.

Secondly, Motherwell, to my knowledge, were never a stand out team and were as bad as the rest of the non-Glasgow SPL, prior to McCall taking over, so he has obviously done something right to get them up to second.

I think the popular groundswell for Robinson is now such that any other appointment will be a letdown for most of us. I can't put out of my mind McCall's spell at Bradford and Curle would be on a par with Morgan or Wilder for me - I'm done. This appointment is of fundamental importance. Just for once, we have to get it right. Robinson feels like the right man at the right time.

 

[bartman]

We can't interview people for the job without making "official" approaches.
When do you think we're planning to do that?

You'll will be telling us next that Moyes had no idea he was the next MUFC manager until a few days after Fergy announced his retirement

 

[mattbianco1]

The fact that no other clubs or their manager have received an official approach suggests to me that none of them are actually on our shortlist. Did we really expect United to pay out compensation when there are "free" manager's available?

OR....

Nobody wants to say "yes I've been approached" when they end up not getting the job.

And why would a club say "yes we've given permission" then he doesn't get the job the fans turn on the manager as he 'wanted to leave'.

That seems more logical mate

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

hes not really saying anything. just if someone came in for him hed consider it. doesnt mean we will.

yeah he was utter pish at bradford. he doesnt fill me with much confidence that hes a manager. hes got more of a coach vibe to him. but he may do ok, no idea really. hes not an obviously good choice or obviously bad choice, which is a step in the right direction for us...

 

[Latters]

I think the popular groundswell for Robinson is now such that any other appointment will be a letdown for most of us. I can't put out of my mind McCall's spell at Bradford and Curle would be on a par with Morgan or Wilder for me - I'm done. This appointment is of fundamental importance. Just for once, we have to get it right. Robinson feels like the right man at the right time.

I wouldn't want Curle anywhere near our managerial role, other than for my own personal, financial gain!

I just thought 40/1 was good odds for a mediocre manager with Blades connections. I thought he was a shoo-in with those credentials!

 

[Kev Gee]

That sounds like a come & get me plea to me!

The problem is. IF he is on the shortlist then we would have to ask permission to interveiw him. And that would leak out. I cant see him being on the shortlist TBH.

 

[metalblade]

God help us if McCall is the best we can do just what did he do at Bradford ??? Oh yes he just managed to keep them in the football league and as for his exploits in Scotland with Motherwell I'm fairly sure Mickey Adams could manage to get them a game in Europe given the dire quality of the SPL

 

[Pedro Verde]

I would be happy with Robinson or McCall
Dont want Curle Wilder etc and didnt want Wilson to start with
Everybody sites the poor quality of the SPL is this pub league any better, McCall will get the best out of Murphy and I presume he likes to play football

 

[Pinchy]

That sounds like a come & get me plea to me!

The problem is. IF he is on the shortlist then we would have to ask permission to interveiw him. And that would leak out. I cant see him being on the shortlist TBH.

That's really naive, with respect, Kev.

He's on the short list.

 

[Pinchy]

God help us if McCall is the best we can do just what did he do at Bradford ??? Oh yes he just managed to keep them in the football league and as for his exploits in Scotland with Motherwell I'm fairly sure Mickey Adams could manage to get them a game in Europe given the dire quality of the SPL

Yes. I'm not at all convinced by McCall. For one thing, this 'new model' needs to be truly that - No ex-Blades thank you! There is a real consensus (not unanimity, of course), I feel, as to who the fans want. The club should realise this and, for once, go the extra yard to deliver what we want [we may be wrong, of course - very few of us are perfect ].

If that upsets Chris Morgan or anyone else - tough! That's football. If we've identified the man who we think best equipped for the job (and clearly we have) the thought of jeopardising the appointment for the sake of a few back room staff is too daft for words - so it's probably true!

Grow up United - get the man in.

 

[raul]

Not convinced by McCall? Allow me.

Yes, he didn't deliver at BCFC, but consider the pressures he was working under whilst two men fell out and fought over ownership of the club and the ground. Furthermore, you only learn how to succeed through the experiences of your mistakes. He probably has less cash at his disposal at Mwell than he did at Bradford, but has put together a very easy on the eye team that punches way above it's weight in it's environment.

Secondly, his playing career together with his managerial experience means his network of contacts will be the most extensive of all the candidates. We're skint remember, so I'd see this as a huge advantage if he's able to use that to get us some better players. He also seems well thought of by his peers, meaning bigger clubs will trust their youngsters to him, safe in the knowledge they'll not go backwards.

Finally, although he has played for us, I wouldn't say he falls under the "Blade" heading. Only the Indian Summer of a very long and distinguished career was spent here, but what he will bring is an understanding of the Club, what it denotes and where it's tradition and support should be able to carry it.

 

[kingston RAWW]

God help us if McCall is the best we can do just what did he do at Bradford ??? Oh yes he just managed to keep them in the football league and as for his exploits in Scotland with Motherwell I'm fairly sure Mickey Adams could manage to get them a game in Europe given the dire quality of the SPL

Completely agree. Charisma bypass.

 

[Pinchy]

Not convinced by McCall? Allow me.

Yes, he didn't deliver at BCFC, but consider the pressures he was working under whilst two men fell out and fought over ownership of the club and the ground. Furthermore, you only learn how to succeed through the experiences of your mistakes. He probably has less cash at his disposal at Mwell than he did at Bradford, but has put together a very easy on the eye team that punches way above it's weight in it's environment.

Secondly, his playing career together with his managerial experience means his network of contacts will be the most extensive of all the candidates. We're skint remember, so I'd see this as a huge advantage if he's able to use that to get us some better players. He also seems well thought of by his peers, meaning bigger clubs will trust their youngsters to him, safe in the knowledge they'll not go backwards.

Finally, although he has played for us, I wouldn't say he falls under the "Blade" heading. Only the Indian Summer of a very long and distinguished career was spent here, but what he will bring is an understanding of the Club, what it denotes and where it's tradition and support should be able to carry it.

Very well argued mi amigo. I'm now, rightly or wrongly, very much a Robinson man. I would, however, accept McCall far more readily than some of the 'elite' on the short list. In fact, it suffices to say I would accept him. Most of the others, Morgan and Wilder amongst them, would see me on the golf course every Saturday, I regret to say.

You know a great deal more about Scottish football than I do. Do Motherwell play proper football? Honestly, now!

 

[Rustyblade]

Charisma? God 'elp us.

 

[raul]

Very well argued mi amigo. I'm now, rightly or wrongly, very much a Robinson man. I would, however, accept McCall far more readily than some of the 'elite' on the short list. In fact, it suffices to say I would accept him. Most of the others, Morgan and Wilder amongst them, would see me on the golf course every Saturday, I regret to say.

You know a great deal more about Scottish football than I do. Do Motherwell play proper football? Honestly, now!

I see 6 or 7 games in the flesh and watch a lot more on telly these days. It's pretty much a hoof-free zone. The football might not be all that great, but the determination to try and get it down and move it around is evident in pretty much every team. The worst culprits are, ironically, Hibernian when the heads drop.

 

[FleaPitBlade]

No ITK style info but I've both seen and taken part in coaching sessions by McCalls assistant and he is very very good. He has close family in these parts, spends most of his time here and from what I am told as a pair they've had there eye on proceedings at BDTBL long before there was even a vacancy. They both played no small part in Murphys move south.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Not convinced by McCall? Allow me.

Yes, he didn't deliver at BCFC, but consider the pressures he was working under whilst two men fell out and fought over ownership of the club and the ground. Furthermore, you only learn how to succeed through the experiences of your mistakes. He probably has less cash at his disposal at Mwell than he did at Bradford, but has put together a very easy on the eye team that punches way above it's weight in it's environment.

Secondly, his playing career together with his managerial experience means his network of contacts will be the most extensive of all the candidates. We're skint remember, so I'd see this as a huge advantage if he's able to use that to get us some better players. He also seems well thought of by his peers, meaning bigger clubs will trust their youngsters to him, safe in the knowledge they'll not go backwards.

Finally, although he has played for us, I wouldn't say he falls under the "Blade" heading. Only the Indian Summer of a very long and distinguished career was spent here, but what he will bring is an understanding of the Club, what it denotes and where it's tradition and support should be able to carry it.

All true and he was of course Warnock's Assistant when we got promoted, which is obviously a major plus.
He's bound to have picked up a few tips from the master :-;