McCabe 'wont rest' til we're out of league 1

[pommpey]

You are very odd, sailor.

Hmm. I'll take that observation with a 'pinch' of (sea) salt.

Other have made similar comments about you, and certainly your strange trump card that you were 'in' F&P singles you out to being (if anything) odder.

As said, the discussion here is based around McCabe's stewardship of the football club an his intent, not blackcatting posts you can't contribute in by claiming some supremacy of intellect by association (in this case, inclusion in a book). We all know what a massive Blade you are.

I'd rather look at Sean and Lincoln's debate and learn from that than entertain you with your now-obvious agenda against me. So, y'know ... piss off.

pommpey

 

[Revolution]

For a number of very good and obvious reasons that are lost on those who think you can "Sack the Board" by car park demonstrations and that Articles of Association are to be found in back issues of Flashing Blade.

Oh yes, to "protect it" from other investors.

Let's hope McCabe's sons are kinder to us than Ken Booth's sons were to Rotherham.

 

[Pinchy]

Hmm. I'll take that observation with a 'pinch' of (sea) salt.

Other have made similar comments about you, and certainly your strange trump card that you were 'in' F&P singles you out to being (if anything) odder.

As said, the discussion here is based around McCabe's stewardship of the football club an his intent, not blackcatting posts you can't contribute in by claiming some supremacy of intellect by association (in this case, inclusion in a book). We all know what a massive Blade you are.

I'd rather look at Sean and Lincoln's debate and learn from that than entertain you with your now-obvious agenda against me. So, y'know ... piss off.

pommpey

It wasn't a trump card at all, just a passing observation, nothing more.

Sean is worth reading. The Lincoln guy talks bollocks, as, sad to say, do you.

How are you going to sack McCabe? What are you going to do then?

Your talk of an agenda could well appear in the leading text book on irony.

 

[pommpey]

It wasn't a trump card at all, just a passing observation, nothing more.

Sean is worth reading. The Lincoln guy talks bollocks, as, sad to say, do you.

How are you going to sack McCabe? What are you going to do then?

Your talk of an agenda could well appear in the leading text book on irony.

Do pay close attention. I know it's difficult with all your 'issues'.

I'm not on about 'sacking McCabe'. How would that work?

My standpoint is in my opinion, his stewardship as chairman has been a series of ever worsening catastrophes, since our brief flirt with the Premier League last decade. We haven't improved, both in our fortunes or our on-pitch ability. Now you can blow farts out of your arse all you want and direct your barely legible rants at who you want on here. The league position we currently find ourselves in, and the demonstrated shit performance 36 hours or so ago are stark testimony to that. The consistent entities in all of this pantomime you are seemingly locked-out from are clear - the ground (in which McCabe has invested, for whatever purpose), the supporters (who in large parts finance his aspirations) and Kevin fucking McCabe himself, who makes the decisions over the top of the manager in particular who we finance to come in, and who we sell. I don't think any of this has gone well, and I am questioning his ability. Unless you are suffering some sort of mental illness, I'd hope you'd agree. Now the delta in all of this is your antipathy toward me ... which is seemingly boundless, as is your propensity toward dramatic outbursts toward anyone who doesn't quite agree with your POV. And now you are trying to fifteen-two people by telling us you were in a book, which has as much effect as me discussing McCabe's actions and is 0.000234 (recurring) % as relevant.

It seems people on here are slowly realising where the cancer is in this club. In bleak terms (and I have lost close relatives to the disease) it's about stage two, which is pretty bad. Soon it will metastasise and take other areas and become a serious threat to the existence of the club, even fatal. Debaters on here are realising that in fact the players are shit, and we buy shit, because its all McCabe will allow, because we are effectively resourceless when it comes to transfers. Debaters also realise that even Pep Guardiola would be giving embarrassing interviews on the touchline after a dismal 3-0 defeat at home to a club at the bottom of the league. People are realising that no matter what players you have out there now (which are 'afforded') and whatever manager (who has been lumped with the task) we are fucked. We are basically an Audi A6 with a Fiat Cunto engine in it. And as said, before long we will be the next Notts County.

Hope this helps Pinchy.

pommpey

 

[Silent Blade]

Question. For those of you who think he's much better, would McCabe be as bad a chairman as Reg Brearley if we were to get relegated to the old fourth?

Reg Brealey wasn't really a bad chairman, just that he was making rather ambitious decisions which affected us some years later

He joined the board in summer 1980, became chairman after John Hassall resigned after relegation to the 4th in 1981. He offered a 10 year contract (not a good idea long term) to Ian Porterfield (who had just got Rotherham promotion to the 2nd division). He allowed Porterfield to make expensive signings until 1986. He struggled financially but was very lucky that Watford had sacked Bassett not long after we sacked McEwan. He was lucky to have Dooley too. While we were still struggling financially (Woolhouse pretended he had enough money to buy out Brealey) the team were doing well on the pitch until the mid 1990s

 

[pommpey]

Reg Brealey wasn't really a bad chairman, just that he was making rather ambitious decisions which affected us some years later

He joined the board in summer 1980, became chairman after John Hassall resigned after relegation to the 4th in 1981. He offered a 10 year contract (not a good idea long term) to Ian Porterfield (who had just got Rotherham promotion to the 2nd division). He allowed Porterfield to make expensive signings until 1986. He struggled financially but was very lucky that Watford had sacked Bassett not long after we sacked McEwan. He was lucky to have Dooley too. While we were still struggling financially (Woolhouse pretended he had enough money to buy out Brealey) the team were doing well on the pitch until the mid 1990s

Trouble is, Bassett's 'slow build' of our team was three years long. By 89 we had a bloody good core set of players, tough, industrious midfielders, nippy, clever wingers, defenders who would get themselves in the way of anything and a pair of strikers who would make Clarke and Sharp shit blood. Three years, if that.

We have been in this division six and our team today is a shadow of the team that dropped from the CL.

pommpey

 

[Mallinder]

Lucky for him this season he might get what he wants!

I think season after season of selling our best player, running the club in an amateurish manner and just being a general arrogant cheap individual might just catch up with him this year. We're always 3 or 4 players away from being a 'complete' team, and we've always got to wait for 'the loan window' or 'January' to rectify it. Or the 'pathway to youth' might solve it eh?

Wilson, Weir, Clough, Adkins and Wilder aren't all bad managers. The fans aren't bad fans either, 6 years of patience is wearing thin - and who can blame us? McCabe call should feel lucky he can even walk down the street in Sheffield after what we've turned into. A lot of clubs wouldn't have stood for this - but he is a master at shifting the blame you've got to give him that.

Fucking football eh.

He might just get it when we are back to 13/15000 attendances.......remember them?

 

[Silent Blade]

Trouble is, Bassett's 'slow build' of our team was three years long. By 89 we had a bloody good core set of players, tough, industrious midfielders, nippy, clever wingers, defenders who would get themselves in the way of anything and a pair of strikers who would make Clarke and Sharp shit blood. Three years, if that.

We have been in this division six and our team today is a shadow of the team that dropped from the CL.

pommpey

3 years? He was appointed in January 1988. You mean summer 1989 when we had the good core set of players? It was 18 months, not really "slow build"

 

[pommpey]

3 years? He was appointed in January 1988. You mean summer 1989 when we had the good core set of players? It was 18 months, not really "slow build"

My bad - and it was getting my wider point over. By 89 he had the core, and augmented it into the best United side since JH and 1971-72.

But it was a good understanding between Bassett and the board that it would need proper investment, and better players year on year.

God I miss those days.

pommpey

 

[Pinchy]

Do pay close attention. I know it's difficult with all your 'issues'.

I'm not on about 'sacking McCabe'. How would that work?

My standpoint is in my opinion, his stewardship as chairman has been a series of ever worsening catastrophes, since our brief flirt with the Premier League last decade. We haven't improved, both in our fortunes or our on-pitch ability. Now you can blow farts out of your arse all you want and direct your barely legible rants at who you want on here. The league position we currently find ourselves in, and the demonstrated shit performance 36 hours or so ago are stark testimony to that. The consistent entities in all of this pantomime you are seemingly locked-out from are clear - the ground (in which McCabe has invested, for whatever purpose), the supporters (who in large parts finance his aspirations) and Kevin fucking McCabe himself, who makes the decisions over the top of the manager in particular who we finance to come in, and who we sell. I don't think any of this has gone well, and I am questioning his ability. Unless you are suffering some sort of mental illness, I'd hope you'd agree. Now the delta in all of this is your antipathy toward me ... which is seemingly boundless, as is your propensity toward dramatic outbursts toward anyone who doesn't quite agree with your POV. And now you are trying to fifteen-two people by telling us you were in a book, which has as much effect as me discussing McCabe's actions and is 0.000234 (recurring) % as relevant.

It seems people on here are slowly realising where the cancer is in this club. In bleak terms (and I have lost close relatives to the disease) it's about stage two, which is pretty bad. Soon it will metastasise and take other areas and become a serious threat to the existence of the club, even fatal. Debaters on here are realising that in fact the players are shit, and we buy shit, because its all McCabe will allow, because we are effectively resourceless when it comes to transfers. Debaters also realise that even Pep Guardiola would be giving embarrassing interviews on the touchline after a dismal 3-0 defeat at home to a club at the bottom of the league. People are realising that no matter what players you have out there now (which are 'afforded') and whatever manager (who has been lumped with the task) we are fucked. We are basically an Audi A6 with a Fiat Cunto engine in it. And as said, before long we will be the next Notts County.

Hope this helps Pinchy.

pommpey

My agenda is to hunt down and confront malicious or misguided claptrap disguised as opinion.

I have nothing against you. You might be a splendid chap. You are, however, obsessed with Kevin McCabe. That leads you into asking leading and rhetorical questions without the slightest intention of paying heed to the replies, because the questions are calculated to set up your next tirade.

 

[pommpey]

My agenda is to hunt down and confront malicious or misguided claptrap disguised as opinion.

That's noble of you. And how successful are you in this 'mission'?

I have nothing against you. You might be a splendid chap. You are, however, obsessed with Kevin McCabe. That leads you into asking leading and rhetorical questions without the slightest intention of paying heed to the replies, because the questions are calculated to set up your next tirade.

Thing is, and this is where your noble mission fails hard, is that you disregard anything which is fucking super HD vision, and try to pick on people you assume you can intimidate and bully on here just by force of 'personality'. I put 'personality' in single quotes there because it's relevant. Or more correctly, irrelevant.

I have illustrated that the consistent factor in our demise is one of three things and, true to your hypocrisy, you ignore the fact that McCabe - my 'obsession' - is indeed a common denominator. You ignore the real fact that since his slow consumption of this club and its assets by his presence, Sheffield United has slumped from a team which ten years ago took West Ham United to bits at Bramall Lane to one which was taken to bits by Southend United the other night by the same score. All those players are gone now, and so is the manager. In fact, we have had successive iterations of the team, all progressively worse ... right the way until the other night.

Now, do you have any idea whose fault this demise might be? Try not to be too selective here - we have failed under every manager since Warnock and the team has got demonstrably poorer in on-pitch output. For the last one I'll give you one shot on target in three games, as a starter.

Off you go. Tell me who has captained this vessel (being as you're apt to make fun of the navy) during these few barren years.

pommpey

 

[Pinchy]

That's noble of you. And how successful are you in this 'mission'?



Thing is, and this is where your noble mission fails hard, is that you disregard anything which is fucking super HD vision, and try to pick on people you assume you can intimidate and bully on here just by force of 'personality'. I put 'personality' in single quotes there because it's relevant. Or more correctly, irrelevant.

I have illustrated that the consistent factor in our demise is one of three things and, true to your hypocrisy, you ignore the fact that McCabe - my 'obsession' - is indeed a common denominator. You ignore the real fact that since his slow consumption of this club and its assets by his presence, Sheffield United has slumped from a team which ten years ago took West Ham United to bits at Bramall Lane to one which was taken to bits by Southend United the other night by the same score. All those players are gone now, and so is the manager. In fact, we have had successive iterations of the team, all progressively worse ... right the way until the other night.

Now, do you have any idea whose fault this demise might be? Try not to be too selective here - we have failed under every manager since Warnock and the team has got demonstrably poorer in on-pitch output. For the last one I'll give you one shot on target in three games, as a starter.

Off you go. Tell me who has captained this vessel (being as you're apt to make fun of the navy) during these few barren years.

pommpey

McCabe has made a number of huge errors, I have never suggested otherwise, nor, to my knowledge has any other correspondent on here. It would be as barmy a suggestion as the proposition that Kevin McCabe has made money out of our club or can ever hope to do so. What we have is a competence issue. It doesn't inform that issue to drop snide remarks like "consuming assets" which I assume is a euphemism? It doesn't advance the debate either to ascribe sinister motives to everything he does.

His biggest error of course was to fail to appreciate that Ol' Big Nose was totally out of his depth in the top flight ["I like the Championship, me..."] and sack him in favour of a seasoned Premier League manager. He compounded that by allowing said Big Nose, at a time when we were ten points clear of danger, to squander his transfer budget on a collection of nonentities rather than bring in one or two players of Premiership quality and experience. That's where your criticism should start.

Anyway, you've stated your case (again). What's your solution? Muster in the car park?

 

[pommpey]

McCabe has made a number of huge errors, I have never suggested otherwise, nor, to my knowledge has any other correspondent on here.

Me too. So we actually agree, yeah?

It would be as barmy a suggestion as the proposition that Kevin McCabe has made money out of our club or can ever hope to do so.

Really? So, since he took over in his shifting position as co-Owner/Chairman/Caretaker/Janitor or whatever you are suggesting that Sheffield United has never grossed him personally one raw dollar? Are you sure about that? Because any self respecting businessman would either flog it as a lossmaker or break the company up and flog off the parts. I'd say he has enough to keep him sleeping at night within the club. The footballing side is simply chaff. It's a barmy suggestion that one so economically adroit as he (and he's no fucking monkey, is he?) would continue feeding tenners into the shredder simply because he's a Blade.

What we have is a competence issue.

Fuck me. You have been reading my posts, haven't you?

It doesn't inform that issue to drop snide remarks like "consuming assets" which I assume is a euphemism? It doesn't advance the debate either to ascribe sinister motives to everything he does.

Nothing sinister in alluding McCabe has a tidy sum tied up in multiple facets in and around the club. Nothing sinister in alluding that as long as the season ticket buzzer-bar shots and turnstiles clicking based upon false hopes and dawns are basically sustaining the running of the club and small titbits of players in (let's not mention players out, yet) and emoilent YT appearances which feed the belief that he is 'one of us'. He fucking isn't. In fact, he's nowt like me, and certainly nowt like you Pinchy.

His biggest error of course was to fail to appreciate that Ol' Big Nose was totally out of his depth in the top flight ["I like the Championship, me..."] and sack him in favour of a seasoned Premier League manager.

'Ol big nose'? You mean Neil Warnock, eh? Now who has an issue, huh? Of course, it was a great move sacking him (in actual fact it was a refusal to renew, rather than him getting his P45 and his desk in a black bag) and employing a total dud as his replacement. His personal attributes are the stuff of legend and if you really have been paying attention, you'll know I had someone very much ITK in the first team during that period within my extended family ... and anecdotes are indeed worryingly confirmed. Great choice Kev. Mind you, we've just torn up the rulebook since then, haven't we? No stopping us as we have slid down the ranks to erm ... third from the bottom of the third division in English football.

He compounded that by allowing said Big Nose, at a time when we were ten points clear of danger, to squander his transfer budget on a collection of nonentities rather than bring in one or two players of Premiership quality and experience. That's where your criticism should start.

Well, maybe Warnock 'couldn't get them over the line', eh? I do know at the time that he was (like most managers do) aiming high and was told to go low and spread his bets, so to speak. Hence the seemingly poor return on his signings. Not as though that practice has been repeated though, is it? Oh, erm. Hang on. It has. Almost every fucking season since.

Anyway, you've stated your case (again). What's your solution? Muster in the car park?

Not at all, and I don't think I have suggested that. I counter people's arguments that the problem lies elsewhere and with a systemic approach to fault diagnosis, anyone with any sense would look at components after much of the machine was swapped out and focus on the stuff that has been installed longest by process of elimination. That in this case is McCabe. We all know he's not going anywhere, but hey, there's still 17-20k in BDTBL every other weekend (minus him and the Prince) so why should he worry too much? He employs some poor schmuck out on the touchline to draw the flak and sixteen talent-free hopeless bastards who pull on the colours to do the worrying for him every miserable Saturday.

pommpey