McCabe to develop former Don Valley (Olympic Legacy Park)?

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The report is a little bit odd. On one hand it says that Sheffield Eagles wouldn't be happy with Scarborough but on the other hand it doesn't really explain why.
 
SwissBlade said:
The report is a little bit odd. On one hand it says that Sheffield Eagles wouldn't be happy with Scarborough but on the other hand it doesn't really explain why.
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I didn't really find the bit that said they were unhappy either. Also note that Steelers owner Tony Smith is looking, there has been a rumour for some time that the Steelers might be coming out of the arena. I can't see him having the clout to finance something that big though unless he has got outside investment.
 
SwissBlade said:
The report is a little bit odd. On one hand it says that Sheffield Eagles wouldn't be happy with Scarborough but on the other hand it doesn't really explain why.
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The Sheffield Eagle's preferred investor wants to build a stand, a bar and other facilities.

McCabe will possibly want to build student flats and Business centres?
 
Sothall_Blade said:
The Sheffield Eagle's preferred investor wants to build a stand, a bar and other facilities.

McCabe will possibly want to build student flats and Business centres?
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Yeah i got the bit about the preferred investor, the Scarborough spokesperson talks of the pitch, so presumably if you've got a pitch and stands it makes sense to build the other facilities. It was more that they didn't state that the Scarborough bid would be detrimental to the Eagles plans than anything else.
 
bladesmanluke said:
What?! McCabe is selling Bramall Lane?!?
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Don't start spreading bullshit. It doesn't nor has anyone said anything about selling BL. McCabe is a businessman and this is about expanding his business. He does have involvement in things away from sufc.
 
If he'd thought on before they knocked down Don Valley Stadium he'd have pulled a right coup off for himself as well as almost world wide city prestige. most nations are shying away from holding the Commonwealth games because of costs. Therefore the games committee is looking for downsizing to make it more affordable. With most of the facilities wanting little more than an affordable upgrade it was almost ready made for this city until we knocked down the Athletics stadium. Just think of the easy planning applications for accommodation he would have got in return for investing with the council in the games. the prestige of holding the commonwealth games is huge and almost world wide coverage and publicity for himself and the city.
Now Birmingham and Liverpool are getting the chance that could have been nailed on for Sheffield. Short sighted city council again.
 
The Crab said:
I didn't really find the bit that said they were unhappy either. Also note that Steelers owner Tony Smith is looking, there has been a rumour for some time that the Steelers might be coming out of the arena. I can't see him having the clout to finance something that big though unless he has got outside investment.
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Non starter.
 
mccabes probably seen man city ladies ground adjacent to the Etihad and thought well have some of the for when we are in the prem

still prefer knocking down the kop completely first
 
blade too long said:
mccabes probably seen man city ladies ground adjacent to the Etihad and thought well have some of the for when we are in the prem

still prefer knocking down the kop completely first
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Knocking down the kop (and by that, I assume you mean removing the hill it's built on) is not feasable unfortunately.

Our only realistic option is altering the kop in its current form.
 

Chali 2na said:
Knocking down the kop (and by that, I assume you mean removing the hill it's built on) is not feasable unfortunately.

Our only realistic option is altering the kop in its current form.
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Not feasible?
I very much doubt it's beyond McCabe to remove that hill it's built on, no matter what might be underneath as regards toxic substances.
 
ChipButtyBlade said:
Why do you say that the Kop cannot be levelled,are there hidden WW2 bombs.
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It can be levelled, I didn't say it was impossible, I said it wasn't feasible.

Clubs are obviously businesses, and as such would consider the cost of any major redevelopments against the potential income gained.

Demolishing the stand, removing the hill and building an entirely new stand wouldn't be cost effective, so it won't be done.

As for the old WW2 bombs, as far as I know it's only a rumour, though it doesn't seem baseless. It would hugely add to the cost obviously, making it less likely.
 
FATTYFOULKE said:
Not feasible?
I very much doubt it's beyond McCabe to remove that hill it's built on, no matter what might be underneath as regards toxic substances.
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See post #18.

It's not about whether it's beyond McCabe as a task, it's whether or not he thinks it's a good investment and how long it would take to pay for itself.
 
Hmm, this makes you think. Depending on planning permissions, there could be a substantial ground or training facility there?

Cash in on Shirecliffe at some point ? When he leaves and sells, and he will some day, sell with a planning permission for a new stadium? I particularly don't like the latter because I wouldn't want to leave the Lane but who knows what a new owner would want.

Pure speculation but you never know.
 
Why are the Eagles given any credence over this? They are a non-entity supported by a few hundred fans and 99.9% of the city don't give a hoot about them or rugby league in general. It's about time we moved away from flogging dead horses and if this area is to be redeveloped into a sporting facility it should be to the benefit of a wider audience.
 
snootyfenooty said:
Why are the Eagles given any credence over this? They are a non-entity supported by a few hundred fans and 99.9% of the city don't give a hoot about them or rugby league in general. It's about time we moved away from flogging dead horses and if this area is to be redeveloped into a sporting facility it should be to the benefit of a wider audience.
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Bang on!
 
boo radley said:
If he'd thought on before they knocked down Don Valley Stadium he'd have pulled a right coup off for himself as well as almost world wide city prestige. most nations are shying away from holding the Commonwealth games because of costs. Therefore the games committee is looking for downsizing to make it more affordable. With most of the facilities wanting little more than an affordable upgrade it was almost ready made for this city until we knocked down the Athletics stadium. Just think of the easy planning applications for accommodation he would have got in return for investing with the council in the games. the prestige of holding the commonwealth games is huge and almost world wide coverage and publicity for himself and the city.
Now Birmingham and Liverpool are getting the chance that could have been nailed on for Sheffield. Short sighted city council again.
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McCabe may be a lot of things but he's not a fucking idiot . No one of sound mind let alone any business acumen would touch the Don Valley Stadium with a barge pole . KM's happy ( ish ) pumping his money into one loss making venture already and that's us . And the only reason he's with us in his current capacity is because it's his passion . The Don Valley Stadium was an abomination and a blight on our City . Why would KM want anything at all to do with the financial black hole that was the Don Valley Stadium ?
 
coolhandluke said:
McCabe may be a lot of things but he's not a fucking idiot . No one of sound mind let alone any business acumen would touch the Don Valley Stadium with a barge pole . KM's happy ( ish ) pumping his money into one loss making venture already and that's us . And the only reason he's with us in his current capacity is because it's his passion . The Don Valley Stadium was an abomination and a blight on our City . Why would KM want anything at all to do with the financial black hole that was the Don Valley Stadium ?
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As Mark Jackson says it's a 35 acre site and they'd be interested in the wider area beyond anything that has a pitch on it. I think that's Scarborough's interest.

35 acres is about 25 football fields.
 
UnitedBlade said:
As Mark Jackson says it's a 35 acre site and they'd be interested in the wider area beyond anything that has a pitch on it. I think that's Scarborough's interest.

35 acres is about 25 football fields.
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I agree . It's blindingly obvious exactly why the Scarborough group are interested now . And it's equally obvious why they wouldn't touch the site until the council had demolished yet another of their monumental fuck ups !

I sincerely hope the Scarborough group win the rights for this . Imagine Sheffields very own Olympic Legacy Park , spread gracefully over 35 acres of the city ...... with the proud crest of Sheffield United Football Club plastered all over the fucker . :D:D:D:D

THE CITY IS RED AND WHITE :cool:
 
UnitedBlade said:
As Mark Jackson says it's a 35 acre site and they'd be interested in the wider area beyond anything that has a pitch on it. I think that's Scarborough's interest.

35 acres is about 25 football fields.
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I'd guess that they will try to do a deal whereby their section 106 contribution (the obligation to provide something that benefits the community when doing big developments, usually a requirement to build social housing) is a new stadium for community use. It will be very basic and cheap.
 
coolhandluke said:
McCabe may be a lot of things but he's not a fucking idiot . No one of sound mind let alone any business acumen would touch the Don Valley Stadium with a barge pole . KM's happy ( ish ) pumping his money into one loss making venture already and that's us . And the only reason he's with us in his current capacity is because it's his passion . The Don Valley Stadium was an abomination and a blight on our City . Why would KM want anything at all to do with the financial black hole that was the Don Valley Stadium ?
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So you did not understand my post then?
 

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