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Name me another ‘great’ striker who doesn’t score goals. Come on.
It's a really misleading question a "striker" to me is a Billy Sharp type who is there to put the ball in the net but there are different kinds of Forwards. Son, and Firmino both world class forwards but Firmino isn't in the team to score goals. McBurnie isn't in our team for his goalscoring he's in there to create space and gives us an aerial threat and at times an out ball.

But in answer to your question Firmino, Bergkamp didn't score that many for how key he was at Arsenal likewise Benzema for Real
 
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Money spent he is

I see where you are coming from, but he was signed as a young English striker with 20 Championship goals to his name in the previous season. Those players don't come cheap.

For his first season, 6 goals was a reasonable return last time out, not astonishing, not terrible. He should have 2 or 3 on the board already this season, but 'should have' doesn't cut it. He knows that, Wilder knows it too and I am sure that they are both tearing their hair out. But he does work hard and contributes in his all round play, so will always feature in Wilder's thinking when selecting a team.

So back to the point in hand, I think he has underachieved, but is by no means Wilder's worst signing, even when counting the cash involved.
 
Sorry I should probably calm down
Self restraint is to be admired do not apologise.
I believe you are right, understand he was more of a winger, the management believe he is a striker/ CF from where he has been playing.
 
I see where you are coming from, but he was signed as a young English striker with 20 Championship goals to his name in the previous season. Those players don't come cheap.

For his first season, 6 goals was a reasonable return last time out, not astonishing, not terrible. He should have 2 or 3 on the board already this season, but 'should have' doesn't cut it. He knows that, Wilder knows it too and I am sure that they are both tearing their hair out. But he works hard and contributes in his all round play.

So back to the point in hand, I think he has underachieved, but is by no means Wilder's worst signing, even when counting the cash involved.

I wanted us to sign him, now I wish we didn't.
 
It's a really misleading question a "striker" to me is a Billy Sharp type who is there to put the ball in the net but there are different kinds of Forwards. Son, and Firmino both world class forwards but Firmino isn't in the team to score goals. McBurnie isn't in our team for his goalscoring he's in there to create space and gives us an aerial threat and at times an out ball.

But in answer to your question Firmino, Bergkamp didn't score that many for how key he was at Arsenal likewise Benzema for Real
Bergkamp scored 1 in 4 for Arsenal!
 
It's a really misleading question a "striker" to me is a Billy Sharp type who is there to put the ball in the net but there are different kinds of Forwards. Son, and Firmino both world class forwards but Firmino isn't in the team to score goals. McBurnie isn't in our team for his goalscoring he's in there to create space and gives us an aerial threat and a times an out ball.
Bergkamp scored 1 in 4 for Arsenal!
Exactly that's an average of less than 10 goals a season in the premier league for someone who is arguably one of the best forwards of the last 25 years. Midfielders like Lampard regularly got 15+ and highlights my point that not all good forwards are goalscorers.
 
I'm really not a fan of McBurnie. I feel he's stealing a living most weeks. However I'll admit that he did put in a shift tonight, for a change. When he can be arsed, he's decent. It's just unfortunate that more often than not, he looks like it's all a bit of an inconvenience to him.
Profound assessment of McBurnie.
His biggest down fall is that he is no athlete, he is neither nimble of foot or mind.
He reminds me, in his movement, of Dooley of the Hillsborough persuasion.
Pity he has neither the single mindedness or eye for a goal that Dooley had.
 
So you bin off Brewster on his first start but go with a donkey that has had many starts and delivered fuck all? Brewster made the runs, alas we don't have the midfielder to see them. McDonkey misses another sitter and forgets how to press after 10 minutes. You are fucking mad.
Lol is he off his nut, how many chances does mcshit need. Let's not forget he only scored a massive 6 last season. No competition inbetween him and brestew and that's now even tho brewdog still needs a few games to settle in. I think we've seen the best of mcshit which isn't great. Ye he might bang 2 goals in one match one day but he's nothing special. Brewster is a different story on his day he'll bang in 2 and set up 2.
 
Lol is he off his nut, how many chances does mcshit need. Let's not forget he only scored a massive 6 last season. No competition inbetween him and brestew and that's now even tho brewdog still needs a few games to settle in. I think we've seen the best of mcshit which isn't great. Ye he might bang 2 goals in one match one day but he's nothing special. Brewster is a different story on his day he'll bang in 2 and set up 2.
"mcshit".
Dickhead. 🙄
 
Profound assessment of McBurnie.
His biggest down fall is that he is no athlete, he is neither nimble of foot or mind.
He reminds me, in his movement, of Dooley of the Hillsborough persuasion.
Pity he has neither the single mindedness or eye for a goal that Dooley had.
If you mean post leg amputation Dooley, you're probably spot on, although even he would probably score more than McBurnie.

A poor man's Chris Guthrie springs to mind.
 



I don't get the specific targeting of McBurnie its not like anyone else at the club is going to be way ahead of him. He's a hardworker that if actually provided chances with his feet often would bag a few. Top scorer last season with Moose yet both get an insane amount of targeted "abuse" (for lack of a better word).
 
Check your mirror.
How dare you...I'd even put my house on it that you'd score more goals than him if you was up front with him till end of season. And i dont even know you, you could look like a r8 dickhead but still put my money on you.
 
How dare you...I'd even put my house on it that you'd score more goals than him if you was up front with him till end of season. And i dont even know you, you could look like a r8 dickhead but still put my money on you.
I don't have any boots. And no one wants a house in s6 anyway.
 
He wasn't in my suggested line up, but McBurnie was great today. Superb in the air and caused them problems all game. He could be able to dominate Man City's centre halves aerially as well, and I'd like to see him with Burke from the start.

I think several of our players will start performing better if we can make our midfield to work as well as today.
How do you feel about Burke in the Duffy role with mcb & Brewster up front?
 
How do you feel about Burke in the Duffy role with mcb & Brewster up front?
I think that would make us too vulnerable defensively, unfortunately. I hope we'll be able to keep a settled midfield with Berge, Ampadu and Lundstram (or Osborn, or Fleck when he returns) from now on. I think Burke could be used as the most advanced striker (like when he came on today) but also tried as a supporting striker running at defences from deeper.
 
I think that would make us too vulnerable defensively, unfortunately. I hope we'll be able to keep a settled midfield with Berge, Ampadu and Lundstram (or Osborn, or Fleck when he returns) from now on. I think Burke could be used as the most advanced striker (like when he came on today) but also tried as a supporting striker running at defences from deeper.

The problem with this is Burke isn’t going to score any goals.
 
Well if plodding about and missing a sitter (again) is our best striker then we are doomed. I have had enough of McBurnie.

Brewster in possession was weak, his runs into the box deserved better service.

Watch off the ball Tarq.
If he’s as bad as you make out, why does he keep getting selected?
 
It's a really misleading question a "striker" to me is a Billy Sharp type who is there to put the ball in the net but there are different kinds of Forwards. Son, and Firmino both world class forwards but Firmino isn't in the team to score goals. McBurnie isn't in our team for his goalscoring he's in there to create space and gives us an aerial threat and at times an out ball.

But in answer to your question Firmino, Bergkamp didn't score that many for how key he was at Arsenal likewise Benzema for Real
Mcburnie isn’t in the team to score goals?! Have a day off! You don’t pay 20 million pounds for some one to win headers and try hard!
Of course he’s there to score goals he’s just no good at it!
 
I'm as frustrated as anyone at McBurnies finishing. It's woeful. He works hard everywhere else though, roughs up defenders, wins headers up front and many of our defensive headers from corners are his. He generally puts a shift in. Ideally he creates chances for others.

Blades fans always need a Boo boy. McBurnie is being lined up for when Lundstram leaves. He's the boo boy in waiting. An apprentice Boo boy if you like.
 
Yeah he missed a sitter and went missing for long periods. Wayne Allison was better.
It’s not like we have a host of quality strikers to pick from - Wilder doesn’t have much choice but to stick and hope he comes good. End of the day we’ve all seen that £20m doesn’t even get you a high end Championship striker anymore. All those saying not good enough cast your mind back to when we signed him and the build up, there were a lot of very excited fans when he put pen to paper.

Get behind him ffs.
 
End of the day we’ve all seen that £20m doesn’t even get you a high end Championship striker anymore.

This is the biggest mistake British managers make when they get big transfer budgets in my opinion. £20-30m is a decent wedge and it could bag players from top leagues all around Europe, but managers still look for prospects in the second tier in England only this time they spend far too much money on them. It's like winning the lottery and buying the most expensive stuff in Primark.
 



In which case, he has been out of form for 90+% of the time he has been on the grass.

Categorically NGE and for all reasons i have been saying for some time.

None of which has anything to do with his socks or his questionable dress sense. Footballing reasons. Basic footballing reasons.

The real question on the table must now be how long the gaffer is prepared to persist

He isn’t afraid to jettison players early. That much is clear based on transfer activity over the last 2-3 years.

That said, I have a funny feeling I will be critiquing McBurine for some time yet !!!!

Hoping I’m wrong 😑.

UTB
So you think he should be dropped because he had a poor game in your eyes? He had a excellent game caused Liverpool all sorts of problems last night a real proper handful and goals will come from him soon im sure he will be starting next match . That was by far our best performance last night . Everyone played well with some standout performances from Mcburnie, Berge , Ampadu,Osborne, Egan and Baldock . We just can't deal with high crosses in the box especially between the sticks . Fully confident WIlder will sort it .Fully deserved something last night we was excellent and so was Mcburnie in my opinion . We have a lot of young players that will keep improving as we are building for the future anyway thats the market we are in until we establish ourselves at this level . Utb
 

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