Mcburnie

[hidesbehindapseudonym]

Still reckon he is a waste of £16 million. The 20 we paid less the 4 we will get back.
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[blade too long]

You joking about the Pigs or are you one of their undercover agents . The stick they give Nuihu, Fox, Palmer etc makes our slagging look like a love fest. didn't hear anybody getting on McB's back and certainly not when he scored the equaliser. Seen it so many times when new players haven't started like a house on fire and then become cult heroes. Thought Eddy, Basham, Booker were crap after their first few games, same a bit with Fleck. Give them time, if he's not doing it after 20/30 games then that's the time to worry. For what it's worth I think McB will become a major asset.

to be fair owls players deserve stick
theyve been there 3 and 4 seasons or more
mcburnies fresh to us and the prem
only fair to give him some time to adjust
mousset has been in the prem 4 years so has a big advantage

 

[Treeton Blade]

Bloke behind me blamed McBurnie for the 3 Man Utd goals, seriously.
Also pronounced this is not fucking good enough Wilder when Man Utd scored their 3rd.

Was leaping about when we equalised though, two faced twat.

 

[Tony]

Still reckon he is a waste of £16 million. The 20 we paid less the 4 we will get back.
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Paid £16.5 million and will sell in 2 seasons for £25 million +

 

[DronnieBlade]

I’ve never actually mentioned ‘pressing’ my gripe with McBurnie is his lack of movement, full stop.
True, he doesn’t put any pressure on the back four or limit their options but worse than that he doesn’t move when we have possession.

Can’t you see, that he would be so much more affective if he increased his mobility and created space, gave the player in possession options and worked his marker?

I mean are people seriously suggesting that Wilder said ‘Get stripped Ollie, the Moose is fucked. There’s 20 minutes left, I want you to get out there, just amble about up front, the teams tired, so keep your movement to a minimum and hopefully something will drop for you in the box’

I thought he took his goal well but it’s frustrating that he could offer so much more by introducing a bit more energy into his game, particularly when he’s on for 20 minutes and presumably hoping to force himself into the starting line up?

McB is an exception apparently !!

Wilder DEMANDS it from every other player on the pitch. But McB is still learning his trade at this level and needs time to adjust and will come good eventually if we preserve his legs for later in the season.

So obvious .

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[Guesty]

You joking about the Pigs or are you one of their undercover agents . The stick they give Nuihu, Fox, Palmer etc makes our slagging look like a love fest. didn't hear anybody getting on McB's back and certainly not when he scored the equaliser. Seen it so many times when new players haven't started like a house on fire and then become cult heroes. Thought Eddy, Basham, Booker were crap after their first few games, same a bit with Fleck. Give them time, if he's not doing it after 20/30 games then that's the time to worry. For what it's worth I think McB will become a major asset.

I don't know about the rest cos I don't see 'em much, but Nuhiu is much better than Wednesday fans reckon. I thought the same about Leon Clarke so it gave me particular joy when he tore them to shreds for us years later.

What I'm saying is, watch out for a 36 year old Atdhe Nuhiu scoring a brace to win us a derby at Hillsborough in a few years (assuming there's still a Sheffield Wednesday and indeed a Hillsborough by then).

 

[Akinbiyi]

But only 2 are effective!

Are they? Because 2 others combined to get us a point against Man United last night, I’d say that’s pretty effective indeed

 

[Houston_Blade]

The amount of abuse being shouted at him the second he came on the pitch was ridiculous yesterday. We are 6th in the PL and playing the best football most of us have ever seen from a Blades team. We bring a 23 year old striker on for his 11th appearance (6 from the bench) and our fans are instantly slating him.

Get over the fact that he drives an R8, wears his socks down, has tattoos and a beard (Brayford was revered for this ironically!), and wears shit looking but expensive clothes, he's a young kid, that's what they do when they have cash and are not overly blessed with brains.

He might turn out to be a flop of Horsfield proportions, but he might come good. If he's alienated then he won't bother to come good. He doesn't need a standing ovation every time he walks on the pitch but at the same time he doesn't need slating when he comes on either.

 

[Akinbiyi]

Still reckon he is a waste of £16 million. The 20 we paid less the 4 we will get back.
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[Akinbiyi]

I’ve never actually mentioned ‘pressing’ my gripe with McBurnie is his lack of movement, full stop.
True, he doesn’t put any pressure on the back four or limit their options but worse than that he doesn’t move when we have possession.

Can’t you see, that he would be so much more affective if he increased his mobility and created space, gave the player in possession options and worked his marker?

I mean are people seriously suggesting that Wilder said ‘Get stripped Ollie, the Moose is fucked. There’s 20 minutes left, I want you to get out there, just amble about up front, the teams tired, so keep your movement to a minimum and hopefully something will drop for you in the box’

I thought he took his goal well but it’s frustrating that he could offer so much more by introducing a bit more energy into his game, particularly when he’s on for 20 minutes and presumably hoping to force himself into the starting line up?

He did plenty of pressing against Liverpool, when he started and we were pressing AS A TEAM. You can’t press individually.

As for making pointless runs, Beattie never ran about, because he was a striker who wanted to be in the box because he knew how to score goals. What’s the point building an overload for a cross down the right if our 6”3 striker is involved in it rather than in the box to nod it in?

Are you thick or summat?

 

[SUFC Guy]

He does need to add a bit more energy to his game. He did do some running about when he came on and finished well for the goal.

I won't slag off any united player unless they deserve it and even then I don't shout at them while they are on the pitch.

There IS something 'different' with him though. Just watch his warm up at half time with the other subs - he simply does not put the effort it. It's a strange one for sure.

He's scored 2 important goals for us that ultimately secured us 4 points so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[YES Blade]

McB is an exception apparently !!

Wilder DEMANDS it from every other player on the pitch. But McB is still learning his trade at this level and needs time to adjust and will come good eventually if we preserve his legs for later in the season.

So obvious .

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We’ll find out soon enough won’t we? If McBurnie wasn’t following Wilder’s instructions, he won’t be on the pitch much.

But personally, I think he’ll still be our 3rd choice strike.

 

[Kanye]

I’ve never actually mentioned ‘pressing’ my gripe with McBurnie is his lack of movement, full stop.
True, he doesn’t put any pressure on the back four or limit their options but worse than that he doesn’t move when we have possession.

Can’t you see, that he would be so much more affective if he increased his mobility and created space, gave the player in possession options and worked his marker?

I mean are people seriously suggesting that Wilder said ‘Get stripped Ollie, the Moose is fucked. There’s 20 minutes left, I want you to get out there, just amble about up front, the teams tired, so keep your movement to a minimum and hopefully something will drop for you in the box’

I thought he took his goal well but it’s frustrating that he could offer so much more by introducing a bit more energy into his game, particularly when he’s on for 20 minutes and presumably hoping to force himself into the starting line up?

You may not have used the word pressing, but you're expecting his movement off the ball to put pressure on their back 4? That's pressing!

As for his movement when we were in possession: It's obviously not perfect, but the same can be said for all our strikers. All I know is in the 20 minutes he played, his movement allowed him to be unmarked in the box and score the equaliser.

It's obvious you're not a fan, and your welcome to that opinion. However, nit-picking about his movement off the ball and criticising him for not putting pressure on their back 4 stinks of someone looking for excuses to put the boot in.

We didn't concede 3 goals because of McBurnie, and we wouldn't have salvaged a point without him. He can be proud of his contribution, regardless of what some of the moaners on here say.

 

[Houston_Blade]

If McBurnie wasn’t following Wilder’s instructions, he won’t be on the pitch much.

This point entirely, players can't come on and just do as they please unless they are world class. He definitely isn't world class and has to play as part of our system so I'm going to say that what he does when he comes on is what he's being told to do.

If he isn't he'll be bombed out without a doubt, £20m or £150k makes no difference if you aren't pulling your weight.

 

[1889]

He did plenty of pressing against Liverpool, when he started and we were pressing AS A TEAM. You can’t press individually.

As for making pointless runs, Beattie never ran about, because he was a striker who wanted to be in the box because he knew how to score goals. What’s the point building an overload for a cross down the right if our 6”3 striker is involved in it rather than in the box to nod it in?

Are you thick or summat?

Or our 6’3” striker moving from behind his marker to allow him to receive the ball from Baldock or Stevens or any of the midfield on or around the halfway line, he doesn’t play with enough energy to get involved in ‘building an overload’

Oh and I suppose your referencing the James Beattie who played in the hard working, high pressing style of Brian Robson, Kevin Blackwell or Danny Wilson teams, where we relied on high tempo possession football that brought great success, for which, incidentally, all three managers are still hugely revered?

Are you thick or summat?

Clearly one of us is..........

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

He does need to add a bit more energy to his game. He did do some running about when he came on and finished well for the goal.

I won't slag off any united player unless they deserve it and even then I don't shout at them while they are on the pitch.

There IS something 'different' with him though. Just watch his warm up at half time with the other subs - he simply does not put the effort it. It's a strange one for sure.

He's scored 2 important goals for us that ultimately secured us 4 points so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Well, 1 point, but hey ho ;-)

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Or our 6’3” striker moving from behind his marker to allow him to receive the ball from Baldock or Stevens or any of the midfield on or around the halfway line, he doesn’t play with enough energy to get involved in ‘building an overload’

Oh and I suppose your referencing the James Beattie who played in the hard working, high pressing style of Brian Robson, Kevin Blackwell or Danny Wilson teams, where we relied on high tempo possession football that brought great success, for which, incidentally, all three managers are still hugely revered?

Are you thick or summat?

Clearly one of us is..........

Yeah, I don't think this quote has helped your case much.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

I thought McBurnie's finish was class. He did well to keep it away from any suggestion of hand ball.
Robinson's assist was class too. Quick thinking under pressure in a crowd of players.

At least McBurnie looks like a player now, instead of someone who just fell out of a skip. We went from crumbling under the cosh to getting a well earned draw.

The way Robbo dug out that cross was amazing, thought it was great control by McBurnie and finish, against a world class keeper. Totally agree with your comments, especially your second sentence, why it took them so long to decide that wasn't a handball is baffling . I remain convinced that both lads will cut it in the premier league.

 

[1889]

You may not have used the word pressing, but you're expecting his movement off the ball to put pressure on their back 4? That's pressing!

As for his movement when we were in possession: It's obviously not perfect, but the same can be said for all our strikers. All I know is in the 20 minutes he played, his movement allowed him to be unmarked in the box and score the equaliser.

It's obvious you're not a fan, and your welcome to that opinion. However, nit-picking about his movement off the ball and criticising him for not putting pressure on their back 4 stinks of someone looking for excuses to put the boot in.

We didn't concede 3 goals because of McBurnie, and we wouldn't have salvaged a point without him. He can be proud of his contribution, regardless of what some of the moaners on here say.

I get what you’re saying and I don’t attribute their goals to McBurnie and have said he took his goal well.

However, every single player, who plays for United puts 100% effort into every minute of every game, which is a huge part of why we are where we are.

Currently, Ollie McBurnie is not getting close to that energy level, he does not provide an outlet for the defence or midfield and makes a token effort to close down the opposition, even when he starts. He is relatively young has come with a big fee but I’d expect him to be breaking his neck to make a career for himself at this level and I sincerely hope he can.

You can quote the examples of Keith Edwards etc but they weren’t playing in this team, that is built around a hard working, high tempo style.

It’s not just me that thinks he could do better, Chris Wilder paid £17.5 million for him and yet he sits next to him every Saturday afternoon?

 

[Akinbiyi]

Or our 6’3” striker moving from behind his marker to allow him to receive the ball from Baldock or Stevens or any of the midfield on or around the halfway line, he doesn’t play with enough energy to get involved in ‘building an overload’

Oh and I suppose your referencing the James Beattie who played in the hard working, high pressing style of Brian Robson, Kevin Blackwell or Danny Wilson teams, where we relied on high tempo possession football that brought great success, for which, incidentally, all three managers are still hugely revered?

Are you thick or summat?

Clearly one of us is..........

Watch the Liverpool game back and you might learn a thing or two

 

[1889]

We’ll find out soon enough won’t we? If McBurnie wasn’t following Wilder’s instructions, he won’t be on the pitch much.

He isn’t

 

[Akinbiyi]

It’s not just me that thinks he could do better, Chris Wilder paid £17.5 million for him and yet he sits next to him every Saturday afternoon?

Because the current front 2 have been and are playing outstandingly well and have done nothing to deserve being dropped. If Chris wasn't impressed Oli wouldn't get on the pitch at all.

I feel like I'm trying to educate my 3 year old nephew on football here, it's tiresome.

 

[1889]

Watch the Liverpool game back and you might learn a thing or two

He doesn’t close defenders down, he ambles towards them in some sort of half hearted token gesture. You rewatch it and tell me how many players he dispossessed. Closing down means defenders look up and think ‘fucking hell wheres he come from’

Admittedly the Liverpool game was by far his best performance in a United shirt. So is it too much to ask that he does that every time he walks onto the pitch?

 

[Auld Reekie Blade]

I am not saying he’s getting everything right. None of our strikers are. Moose can only play 60 minutes, Robinson has missed some sitters and McBurnie could do better up front. But he has something Christ he did for us when he was at Barnsley and at Swansea. That’s the same defence that has been so mean in the PL; and is more than can be said for three strikers that won the fucking European Cup!!!

 

[1889]

Because the current front 2 have been and are playing outstandingly well and have done nothing to deserve being dropped. If Chris wasn't impressed Oli wouldn't get on the pitch at all.

I feel like I'm trying to educate my 3 year old nephew on football here, it's tiresome.

But how did they ever get their opportunity when McBurnie was originally first choice? Clearly you and ‘Chris’ are seeing different things.

Oh and tell your nephew, his Uncles an arrogant twat

 

[finlaytheblade]

We’ll find out soon enough won’t we? If McBurnie wasn’t following Wilder’s instructions, he won’t be on the pitch much.

But personally, I think he’ll still be our 3rd choice strike.

Cant understand all this blaming Mcburnie for the goals ..His strengths are different to Moose .We were making a change when Moose went down ,
It altered the balance as Moose was keeping two defenders busy with his pace playing off the shoulder, Mcburnie doesn't have that dynamic side to his game and this gave them licence to push on and go for it.
They got the breaks during that 10 minute period and scored 3 goals.
Watched Man utd manager on BBC say they could have had more than 3 !! where he gets that from I dont know , wasnt watching the same game as me.

 

[Kanye]

I get what you’re saying and I don’t attribute their goals to McBurnie and have said he took his goal well.

However, every single player, who plays for United puts 100% effort into every minute of every game, which is a huge part of why we are where we are.

Currently, Ollie McBurnie is not getting close to that energy level, he does not provide an outlet for the defence or midfield and makes a token effort to close down the opposition, even when he starts. He is relatively young has come with a big fee but I’d expect him to be breaking his neck to make a career for himself at this level and I sincerely hope he can.

You can quote the examples of Keith Edwards etc but they weren’t playing in this team, that is built around a hard working, high tempo style.

It’s not just me that thinks he could do better, Chris Wilder paid £17.5 million for him and yet he sits next to him every Saturday afternoon?

You're perception that he doesn't put effort in is based on what? Him not running around enough? Not pulling his socks up?
It's confirmation bias, you dont like him and I doubt this conversation will change that.

And did you listen to Wilder's interview? He talked very highly of McBurnie, and stated that he will be a big player for us. So your assumption about what Chris Wilder thinks is obviously incorrect.

 

[Akinbiyi]

But how did they ever get their opportunity when McBurnie was originally first choice? Clearly you and ‘Chris’ are seeing different things.

Oh and tell your nephew, his Uncles an arrogant twat

Because Mousset came on and made an impact every time he came on the pitch and had to start, McGoldrick is key to how we play. It's not fucking rocket science, is it?

 

[1889]

You're perception that he doesn't put effort in is based on what? Him not running around enough? Not pulling his socks up?
It's confirmation bias, you dont like him and I doubt this conversation will change that.

And did you listen to Wilder's interview? He talked very highly of McBurnie, and stated that he will be a big player for us. So your assumption about what Chris Wilder thinks is obviously incorrect.

Ok pal. But I’m not talking about the potential, future Ollie McBurnie, I’m talking about the current one.

Good luck to him, I hope you’re faith is rewarded, it would only be to the clubs benefit, so who wouldn’t

 

[1889]

Because Mousset came on and made an impact every time he came on the pitch and had to start, McGoldrick is key to how we play. It's not fucking rocket science, is it?

Again you’re ignoring the fact that McBurnie didn’t, Mousset didn't get a chance at Bournemouth because their strikers kept him out.

Anyway, we clearly have different views perhaps we should leave it at that. I’ve got stuff to do and those gate wont open themselves