Match Report - Bournemouth

[Deleted member 875]

To respond to replies:

Flynn. To be honest, we are playing 4-4-1-1. Even if we are playng 4-4-2, Flynn's role is not 'wide midfielder'. He has a specific rectangle where his role is most important, from, our 18 yard box right up to the opposition goal line, in from the touchline to the 18 yard boxes. That is how the 4-4-x system works. If he is a 'wide midfielder' then he is playing in the wrong team, using the wrong system. Unless we play 4--1-2-1-2 with a 'diamond' in the centre, his patch is narrowed into the 'wide midfielder' role, in which case, we have to forget attacking from the wings and start playing much closer, ball-to-feet wrok, stuff that I don't believe we have the capability to produce.

It's difficult to pin down exactly what our attacking style is. It's still frustratingly direct, and I believe this is because we lack the trust in Doyle to carry the ball forward and (from what I saw yesterday at times) lack of players' understanding to drop into space and receive. Flynn also has a tendency to bury himself behind opposition players instead of moving into space, he lacks basic ability to make effective runs and either receive or draw players with him to open up gaps. He's small, agile and not without skill but I feel his 'connective play' - the stuff where he understands we are on the attack so he needs to move quickly or even when he has the ball and needs to be more creative, is a real weak point in our attacking philosophy. Too many times he allowed their defender time to get the better of him - the one time in the second half where he tried to beat his man he made such a poor decision not benefitting from an early touch past him and telegraphed his intent so it was easy to block his run past. For us to capitalise on having one of the best penalty area poachers and headers of the ball in this division in Kitson, our style does have to lean toward wingplay and getting the ball round the back of the defence and into the area. The development of Flynn, McDonald and Murphy as our top goal providers must be given more priority in my opinion. McDonald has such ability and vision but lacks the output; Flynn, undoubtedly not without some talent needs to consolidate his role and we will just have to see what Wilson eventually does with Murphy.

Brownie - I KNEW it was you! Joe - my lad - said 'I recognised him straight away and knew he recognised us' (we were sat in the smokers area at the back of the Percy Thrower pub). Think it was Reading 2004 pissing up in the station the we all jumped into the taxi to the Madjeski where we all me last time (he was 14!)

Thanks for the responses - accept we differ in opinion regarding one particular player (and it is no different from Monty in seasons past). I want Flynn to do well and want him to be Gareth Bale. Nowt wrong with that, is there?

pommpey

You should have said something mate. I still remember the Reading trip as well.

 

[Kenilworth]

Like that alot Pinch - top posting.

I thought Barry did pretty well on Saturday and added some moments of class which we so badly need.

We really need Forte back though to work alongside Kitson and give Kmac/Bazza some options when in possession.

Crikey Mica - a post that is positive and considered and complimentary and reasoned!

Now go take a lie down there feller and chill

 

[sitwell]

A line needs to be drawn in the sand by the FA or UEFA regarding this kicking the ball out malarky. It causes problems no end , I know it should be left to the referee but this needs to become a law so players know where they stand. Also the protocol of giving the ball back to the opposition should be take out of the players hands.

 

[Balham]

A line needs to be drawn in the sand by the FA or UEFA regarding this kicking the ball out malarky. It causes problems no end , I know it should be left to the referee but this needs to become a law so players know where they stand. Also the protocol of giving the ball back to the opposition should be take out of the players hands.

The problem with that though Sitters is that if you make it the law that play stops if a player appears injured you'd have an issue with players deliberately breaking up the game when the opposition was attacking.

I'd just allow the trainers to come onto the pitch to treat the injured players as in rugby union. If the ball hits them they're treated as an outside object and it's a drop ball.

While we're on the subject FIFA really should introduce the sin-bin concept. 10 mins off for a yellow card might take away some of the cynical tackles which currently happen.

 

[sitwell]

Not necessarily ,it would be up to the referees discretion whether a player is injured or flannelling ,at the moment there is too much indecision which makes it difficult for all parties. Cant go with the idea of trainers running on and treating players while the game is in play it would be wide open to misconduct and thats before offside comes into the equasion.
One other point why do we as football fans always think Rugby ,Cricket or any other sport lead the way ,they are totaly different sports with different issues and years behind football anyway.

 

[Balham]

Not necessarily ,it would be up to the referees discretion whether a player is injured or flannelling ,at the moment there is too much indecision which makes it difficult for all parties. Cant go with the idea of trainers running on and treating players while the game is in play it would be wide open to misconduct and thats before offside comes into the equasion.

The referees have only been told to stop play for a head injury. The rest is down to their discretion already so you're basically advocating keeping the same system?

What misconduct would there be from treating players on the pitch? Offside would be the same as it is now; there's no need to change that.

One other point why do we as football fans always think Rugby ,Cricket or any other sport lead the way ,they are totaly different sports with different issues and years behind football anyway.

I don't think that other sports "lead the way" but they are well ahead of football in a number of things, not least the use of technology. Football's "I'm alright guv" approach is why we've got these issues at the moment. Let's mike up the referees - maybe that will stop them being mates with the players (from the library against Hartlepool I could hear the referee talking to "Flynny") and start refereeing the game, as well as potentially improving the behaviour of the players.

 

[sitwell]

If thats the case why do players put the ball or feel obliged to put the ball out. Make it a law to play on removing the indecision. Misconduct would invlove trainers running on at anytime and interfering with play ,shouldnt happen but would.

 

[Balham]

If thats the case why do players put the ball or feel obliged to put the ball out. Make it a law to play on removing the indecision. Misconduct would invlove trainers running on at anytime and interfering with play ,shouldnt happen but would.

When I'm playing I put the ball out as I'd hope that the opposition would do the same if it was me injured. The problem with making it the law to play on is that you'd get players with broken legs lying there for possibly minutes until the ball went out and the trainer could come on.

How would offside work then too? Would a defender down on the edge of the six yard box count as playing an attacker onside?

 

[sitwell]

'Id hope' there is the problem ,if a player was badly injured the officials would stop the game and start it how they think rather than leaving it to a thick ,conniving ,cheating gaumless or even fair minded footballer.Regarding offside that is for UEFA to make a law and make it black and white rather than grey ,which actually the whole offside law is anyway in my opinion. Rules should be rules on a football pitch not open to discretion or manipulation.

 

[metty]

If a referee stops play in cases of 'injury' surely he must be able to see if that injury is genuine or feigned, ie the presence of stud marks, lacerations etc. If its the case of it being feigned then the player should be booked for ungentlemanly conduct. How many times have we seen a player go down clutching his head only for the replay to show that there was no contact or sign of injury whatsoever. I'm sure that a few bookings would eventually sort the problem out.