Martin Samuel

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I think that having to integrate international capped player's with champions league experience in to the team is very transitional?
He's played one game, and he's not the reason we are 6th. Having the same team as last season pretty much says stable to me. Not sure what your definition is
 
He's played one game, and he's not the reason we are 6th. Having the same team as last season pretty much says stable to me. Not sure what your definition is

See #30, I've edited it to deal with this point.
 
I'd argue Leicester don't have our honesty and innovation. They were thug centre backs , cynical midfielders and Mahrez passing to a speed merchant. Compare it to our ressurection of failed careers in a failing team, with never before seen tactics.
 
Putting the cheap jibe at us aside, he is correct, 4 of the recent big 6 are performing below their usual levels.

This is why we need to grab this opportunity with both hands (like Leicester did) and have a real good push for the FA Cup and Champions League because it might be our only chance for the foreseeable future. The Prince has done his bit by backing Wilder in the transfer window, it's over to Wilder and the team to do their bit now. I won't be betting against them to finish the season very strong and making this season the greatest in our club's history.
 
It will really piss him off then when we qualify for the Champions league!
 
It’s almost as if he wrote two thirds of his article, went to get a coffee saw a Sky TV spot praising the Blades and possibly commenting on West Ham’s predicament, and come back to his computer to have a spiteful dig at the Blades.

A coffee, three doughnuts, a packet of biscuits, a Scotch egg, some lard sandwiches, a family bag of crisps, three more doughnuts, a massive chocolate bar and a pack of Fridge Raiders. He held back because it was nearly lunchtime
 
I'd say we were pretty stable to be honest.

Frank Lampard last week was commenting about how poor their (Chelsea's) transfer window had been and what a good one we had had.

I am sure he made a comment about how lucky / fortunate we are because we've been together for the past 5 years (it's less than 4 Frank but we'll ignore that).

Yes Frank we are so fortunate not to have had about 20 years of Russian money, Sky TV money etc etc etc but had the benefit of a league one income for 6 years.

These managers / pundits / journalists look for any scapegoat they can find in order to cover up how crap they are at their job.
 
He’s a twat and he hates us, but we‘ve given him the chance to spout off like this by the small time selling club image that had been created in the last couple of decades. Wolves are a similar sized club to us but I bet he wouldn’t dream of using them as examples and the same goes for several other clubs.

We need to kick on now, become a Premier League fixture and show that we’re not just happy to be up here and continue to grow as a club on and off the pitch. Finally a trophy and European football in the coming years should be on our agenda, and I think we’ve now got a manager at the helm who knows this and can achieve it. More importantly, he might now have somebody as the helm who also shares his ambition.
 
He's correct, the Premier League was stronger when jumped-up, also-ran London clubs could illegally sign Argentinian internationals.

Standard stuff from him. You'd have to deep-fry a Megalodon to go with the size of the chip on the shoulder he has about us. UTB
 
Frank Lampard last week was commenting about how poor their (Chelsea's) transfer window had been and what a good one we had had.

I am sure he made a comment about how lucky / fortunate we are because we've been together for the past 5 years (it's less than 4 Frank but we'll ignore that).

Yes Frank we are so fortunate not to have had about 20 years of Russian money, Sky TV money etc etc etc but had the benefit of a league one income for 6 years.

These managers / pundits / journalists look for any scapegoat they can find in order to cover up how crap they are at their job.
Exactly this...and Wilder should be praised immeasurably for this purely because it's not the done thing...and I highly doubt frankie would have done the same thing in his position too.

Can you imagine if he took Derby up, would have have shown faith in Waghorn, Keogh etc... Would he feck, he'd have had 20 players out the door for a full refresh.

Then he has the cheek to say we're lucky because we kept the team together.
 



Neck well and truly on block here, but he may have a point you know. Ignore his Spammers allegiance for a minute, and look at the usual stronger teams. City, Chelsea, Arsenal, spurs, all in transition and way below their usual standards. That's all.
To be fair he didn't need to mention us at all to make his point, so fuck him anyway.

Man Ure dominated winning titles easily and we, as in the country were spoon fed the view that prem league was greatest league in world so therefore Man Ure are special

The prem is what it is now because pep came in and with his money took it to another level and so far Liverpool have been the only team who have found a way to counter this

I know it’s easy with hindsight but I’m confident under Sir Chris we would have been fine most seasons if he had come here much earlier

I know it’s not you personally doing this but the current narratives doing the rounds are partly because it’s scousers and the dislike towards them therefore the league is weaker and us challenging for Europe just adds to that

If this season it was Man Ure so far ahead the narrative would be different
 
Ignore the fact that these clubs have had huge sums of money through years of being up at the top, it’s all relative because that money has gone to players and agents. And in some cases on hugely extravagant stadium projects.
Chelsea were a Yo-Yo club until Abramovic, nothing special at all.
Spurs until the last few years much the same in the premier league.
Man City were very much second fiddle to the red side.
Liverpool haven’t won the premier league full stop!
So the point I’m making is that football moves in circles, Everton and Liverpool used to be dominant when I was a kid, Man U and Arsenal after that. But what rule is there that says someone else can’t come in and become a regular top 6 finisher just by being better organised and spending their money better and more wisely on the right talent at the right time?
I believe some of these so called bigger clubs could be coming to the end of their dominance. Chelsea are being punished for unfair practices, Spurs have a very expensive stadium to pay for, Arsenal are suffering from losing Wenger but also struggle to recruit players their fans demand. Man U have lost their dominance in a similar way to Arsenal.
So although they aren’t as good as they have been it’s not often they were all that good at the same time anyway.
Wolves and Us have good managers and are doing things differently. We could get better and better so that in a few years we are referred to as one of the “big 8” clubs!!
 
I'd become ambivalent about West Ham, what happened years ago is well and truly in the past and they now mean as much to me as, say Brighton or Watford. But then that useless bitter fat twat opens his mouth and suddenly I'm desperate for them to be relegated. That comment is up there with the pigs - if it's a league lacking any depth, how shit must his beloved club be?

Yep - he's the only reason I can think of for disliking West Ham these days.
 
Collymore in today's paper says the same. Said we are a decent team but in the 90s we'd be 12th or 13th.
 
Collymore in today's paper says the same. Said we are a decent team but in the 90s we'd be 12th or 13th.

Remind me again, when was Collymore in his pomp?

Lazy punditry at its worst. Pick an unfashionable team and put the boot in. Danny Mills, Garth Crooks - come on down!
 
We finished top half in the mid 90s with a far inferior side. Teams like Bolton perenially finished in the top half. What the fuck suggests this team couldn't?

Back then, there were literally only Man U and Blackburn, Man U and Newcastle, or Man U and Arsenal that were any good, 2/3 teams max. Your Liverpools, spurs', chelsea's were all bang average and were beatable (as we did). It's an absolute bullshit statement.
 
Were people saying this about Wolves last season? What a load of bollocks, it's just the latest stick to beat us with rather than give us the credit were deserve. Fuck him
 
I just read the article. It was painful as I don't read the Daily Mail. I couldn't really tell if it was a column (as it was not reporting on anything) or just some rambling crap with no actual point. It almost seemed to me that he was given a topic and had to submit so many words on it. I really can't decide anything from the article and even the submitted comments at the end rambled on with their own agendas (at least they had some sort of point). The guy got his dig in about us, but seems to fulfil the reason I don't read the reactionary load of crap.
 
This is the same thinking I've just criticised in the Collymore thread. Oh, this team is doing unusually well, the league must have got worse. But you'd expect the exact same thing to happen if everyone got better. And, more than that, the implication is that it's somehow bad for the game that teams can rise up the divisions and challenge the top flight in the manner we have. Why on Earth would that be true? How is the game more exciting if the top six are known before the ball is kicked?

You know why kids get bored of playing noughts and crosses? Because when they get older they realise the game devolves into nothing but draws. And why are other games more exciting? Because today might be the day that Buster Douglas knocks out the undisputed world champion. Because this might be the year that Leicester lift the title. Chris Moneymaker might win millions in the World Series of Poker, starting from an $80 online game.

It's exactly the ability of teams to rise from nothing that makes football a great game. No win is ever guaranteed.

And I'm not biased because it's us. We all loved the Leicester story. And when I started watching football, Burnley and Bournemouth were nothing teams for the lower leagues. They've both had seasons up in the top flight and look to stay there. I look forward to the next one that does it and I won't shit over the competition because magic like that can still happen.
 




Hang on a minute? So we shouldn’t be aiming to just stay up, but we also shouldn’t be aiming higher than that? He’s just contradicted his entire argument the stupid prick.

Mind you, we should come to expect it from Collymore, got form for picking on those weaker than him, the abhorrent little cunt.
 

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