Outgoing? Mark McGuinness

[Berkshire Blade]

Wilder haters so demented they are now trying to say McGuiness is worth keeping


Weird weird people

 

[Champagneblade]

I’m probably pro Wilder.

I’d say part of that is that I’m anti-change for change’s sake and the upheaval that comes with it. i.e. Large turnover of players, increased agent fees, player and manager pay offs etc all creates a lot of financial waste.

So I’d prefer we stick and build on a solid foundation. When you watch Benjamin Bloom’s channel for a while it’s clear that managerial stability plays a bit part in success. If it were down to me Hecky would probably still be with us; I’d have ridden out the poor PL season to be honest. Bloke was on a hiding to nothing once we went up.

That being said, I’m not adverse to criticising the manager when he does things I disagree with. In this case though, bobbing out a player we should never have signed gives me hope that he is prepared to make the hard decisions rather than just go with the flow.

Hard bit will be getting takers anywhere near the level we paid. Ironically, if they perhaps adjusted their thinking to the level they are at, he’d probably be a very reasonable signing for Leicester to get out of that league.

 

[mattbianco1]

Didn't he put both Coutts and K. Freeman on the transfer list when he first became manager in 2016?

Champ Man tactics.

Transfer list so he ups his game

 

[Kenilworth]

It’s also not great for selling, no club are going to make a market value offer when they know he’s not wanted or valued…

Like selling your house with a description of

It’s a bit of a shithole in a crap area and we hate living here

Queue shite offers

A quick survey confirms that is true.
Just like selling a house.

 

[Champagneblade]

A quick survey confirms that is true.
Just like selling a house.

We just need to find out where the Scouts for Luton and Cardiff are now employed!

 

[Kenilworth]

Wilders building his narrative early. When we don’t sign Souttar and have to play McGuinness we’ll hear nothing but moans about ‘not being his squad’, much like we’ve heard comments this summer about all our fitness issues been related to the previous pre-season

There’s always a justification/scapegoat.

Which bit of that is incorrect?
If we don’t get Souttar and we still have McG then most of us will think it’s a disaster.

 

[KMC-1889]

Which bit of that is incorrect?
If we don’t get Souttar and we still have McG then most of us will think it’s a disaster.

He's not the only centre back out there. If he's beyond our finances whose the next target?

 

[ChipDayFriday]

Champ Man tactics.

Transfer list so he ups his game

We've been here before, worked with Coutts, Bash... but plenty of others not.

 

[Kenilworth]

He's not the only centre back out there. If he's beyond our finances whose the next target?

There are others but if McG is still here, that will be a major disappointment and will illustrate the board have zero intent or interest in progression

 

[Nagima]

McGuinness has limitations. Mostly they show up on us being countered. He has a tendency to go out under the ball from a long punt. That misjudgement really highlights his deficencies. Chris must have some reason to feel confident of getting a few decent CBs in. I thought that McGuinness could be kept as backup.

The pairing of anyone with Tanganga didn't really work out. That's because they weren't on the same page.Though you can also criticise Wilder's tactics. Fullbacks encouraged to get high and wide and insufficient cover when things breakdown. I don't think any of the back 4 players were happy with last season. And I believe Tanganga and McGuinness felt that they were left too exposed.

Mark is a really nice bloke and i wish him well if he goes. In my book he put in more effort than Chong and Rothwell and unfortunately it looks like we are keeping them.

 

[JohnDenver]

McGuinness has limitations. Mostly they show up on us being countered. He has a tendency to go out under the ball from a long punt. That misjudgement really highlights his deficencies. Chris must have some reason to feel confident of getting a few decent CBs in. I thought that McGuinness could be kept as backup.

The pairing of anyone with Tanganga didn't really work out. That's because they weren't on the same page.Though you can also criticise Wilder's tactics. Fullbacks encouraged to get high and wide and insufficient cover when things breakdown. I don't think any of the back 4 players were happy with last season. And I believe Tanganga and McGuinness felt that they were left too exposed.

Mark is a really nice bloke and i wish him well if he goes. In my book he put in more effort than Chong and Rothwell and unfortunately it looks like we are keeping them.

If MM stays, I’m confident he’ll have a better season. There’s much more structure and certainty in place now than in the environment he walked into.

That’s not to say I particularly rate him, but if he stays as backup I won’t be burning my season ticket.

 

[Nick Jansky]

There are others but if McG is still here, that will be a major disappointment and will illustrate the board have zero intent or interest in progression

Or it could mean that we haven’t been able to negotiate a suitable move for him. Which he does get a say in.

 

[Bladesman]

Or it could mean that we haven’t been able to negotiate a suitable move for him. Which he does get a say in.

True, in an ideal world Cardiff or someone give us some sort of fee likely less than we paid and take him.

 

[Chezzy Blades]

Hopefully we get a replacement in quickly and it isn’t like that season where Clough didn’t fancy Collins or Butler and started the season with McEveley and Alcock at centre half against Bristol City.

For what it’s worth I think that whilst McGuinness has obvious limitations he wasn’t helped by being asked to defend so high up last season when he clearly didn’t have the pace to do so.

Ideally the Souttar deal will come off and we won’t start the season with Tanganga, an unproven Baptiste and a player that Wilder has publicly said he doesn’t want.

 

[Blade58]

There are others but if McG is still here, that will be a major disappointment and will illustrate the board have zero intent or interest in progression

I don’t think McGuiness will leave until a CB is signed, whether that be Souttar or someone else. He will leave and if not a sale then a loan to save his salary