Ligament Damage for Chedders

[Jim Chimmerney]

No break but ligament damage, expected to be back for pre-season.

Interesting to see what this means for these pre-agreements he's supposed to have signed It never rains..........

 

[Highbury_Blade]

It would be disastrous if that means we have to keep his wage bill on our books next season. You could get a shitload of league 1 players for the money we're paying him.

 

[Micalijo]

It would be disastrous if that means we have to keep his wage bill on our books next season. You could get a shitload of league 1 players for the money we're paying him.

You could also get a couple of decent players for the wedge we pay Trevor Birch as well.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

It would be disastrous if that means we have to keep his wage bill on our books next season. You could get a shitload of league 1 players for the money we're paying him.

Makes you wonder why we brought him on on Saturday as well unless, like Cresswell, it was to just to remind clubs that they still exist.

 

[lenners]

Fingers crossed Norwich are daft enough to shell out.
Sadly, Lambert doesn't strike me as a daft manager.

 

[Worksop II]

Fingers crossed Norwich are daft enough to shell out

Len, I am not sure how much you want for him, it would be best if we gave him away

 

[alcoblade]

You could also get a couple of decent players for the wedge we pay Trevor Birch as well.

You'd have tro imagine he'll be gone too, or talking abig pay cut. £250,000 for a CE looks silly at a slimmed down SUFC in the 3rd division.

UTB

 

[lenners]

Len, I am not sure how much you want for him, it would be best if we gave him away

It's likely that is the only way we'll be able to get rid.
Even then, I can't see many Championship clubs prepared to pay his £15k to £20k wages.
The clubs that could afford that would almost certainly want a better standard of player.

 

[Micalijo]

You'd have tro imagine he'll be gone too, or talking abig pay cut. £250,000 for a CE looks silly at a slimmed down SUFC in the 3rd division.

UTB

You would certainly hope so. Please note that Birch joined the club in November 2009 and remuneration (incl. £18k pension contributions) of the highest paid director was £251k in the year to 30 June 2010. In other words, the £251k covered a 7 or 8 month period. Gross that up and you are looking at £400k per annum approx.

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It's likely that is the only way we'll be able to get rid.
Even then, I can't see many Championship clubs prepared to pay his £15k to £20k wages.
The clubs that could afford that would almost certainly want a better standard of player.

As you said before, it is extremely possible that we will end up loaning players to clubs in a higher league than us, namely we pay half his wages and someone like Burnley pay the other.

 

[Bladesway]

You would certainly hope so. Please note that Birch joined the club in November 2009 and remuneration (incl. £18k pension contributions) of the highest paid director was £251k in the year to 30 June 2010. In other words, the £251k covered a 7 or 8 month period. Gross that up and you are looking at £400k per annum approx.

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As you said before, it is extremely possible that we will end up loaning players to clubs in a higher league than us, namely we pay half his wages and someone like Burnley pay the other.

He's your new Blackwell isn't he Mic. I can't understand why you are banging on about Birch without first pointing the finger at the man that appointed him. Birch is just doing a job, McCabe sent him down there to do, like Charles Green did for McDonald.

On Ched, has no one ever thought we may have been smart enough to build a pay cut into his wages should we get relegated?.................oh shit.

 

[oldblade]

It's likely that is the only way we'll be able to get rid.
Even then, I can't see many Championship clubs prepared to pay his £15k to £20k wages.
The clubs that could afford that would almost certainly want a better standard of player.

Do you have it on good authority that he's being paid that much or is it a guess?

Not trying to pick a fight by the way - genuine question, because I get the accounts every year but still have no idea what individual players are paid, because they don't break the wage bill down to show that amount of detail.

Is there some sort of publicly accessible place where that data is available?.

 

[lenners]

Do you have it on good authority that he's being paid that much or is it a guess?

Not trying to pick a fight by the way - genuine question, because I get the accounts every year but still have no idea what individual players are paid, because they don't break the wage bill down to show that amount of detail.

Is there some sort of publicly accessible place where that data is available?.

If I recall correctly McCabe said he was one of the highest paid players in the Championship and it's pretty much an open secret.

 

[alcoblade]

If I recall correctly McCabe said he was one of the highest paid players in the Championship and it's pretty much an open secret.

None of it is known for sure, but judging by McCabe's comments and the acknowledged £12M wagebill, clearly some players are earning towards £1M per year, and Evans is surely one of them.

I don't think there's a single (senior) player of our books who we should fight to keep, unless they are prepared to take enormous pay cuts. I'd supply the taxi for Evans.

UTB

 

[Vancouver]

If I recall correctly McCabe said he was one of the highest paid players in the Championship and it's pretty much an open secret.

But he didn't say how much Ched was being paid did he? Just one of the highest paid players - no value given.

Is there some sort of publicly accessible place where that data is available?.

No. While the publically-traded companies need to publish their accounts they need only detail the player salaries in one group so they don't give individual details other than in very rare cases. When you see someone stating a player earns X a week feel free to ignore it as it's usually rumour, supposition or guesswork; very rarely fact.

 

[alcoblade]

But he didn't say how much Ched was being paid did he? Just one of the highest paid players - no value given.

See my above post/. We know our wage bill is £12M or above. McCabe publicly stated Evans was one of the highest paid players outside the premiership. It's clear then that he's our highest paid, or right up there. Without knowing the exact figure, we can be absolutely certain we';re paying him vastly above his worth and that we can't afford to continue to do so.

UTB

 

[lenners]

Vancouver, if you really wish to disbelieve he's on 15k to 20k a week and is not in fact one of the Championship's highest paid players, knock yersen out.

 

[Vancouver]

Vancouver, if you really wish to disbelieve he's on 15k to 20k a week and is not in fact one of the Championship's highest paid players, knock yersen out.

It's not that I don't believe he's on a silly wage (it's frankly staggering if he's even in 5 figures); my issue is with the cast iron certainty given to the claim that the players are earning X amount. We don't know this for certain; it's guesswork and should be portrayed as such.

 

[Kenilworth]

Whatever it is he has been shit.
Get shot as soon as.
Pussy

 

[SteelCity Blade]

It's not that I don't believe he's on a silly wage (it's frankly staggering if he's even in 5 figures); my issue is with the cast iron certainty given to the claim that the players are earning X amount. We don't know this for certain; it's guesswork and should be portrayed as such.

Bearing in mind the people I've heard it from, the rumours about his salary cant be too far off the mark. I believe the top line figure touted to be accurate.

 

[Balham]

Article in today's Yorkshire Post suggesting that the injury has scuppered chances of a quick move. It also suggests that we'd let him go on a free to get him off the wagebill.

Clicky

Please, United, don't be that daft unless you absolutely have to. He's 22 and surely, even with 12 months on his contract, is worth £500k - £1m? Especially in a world where Billy Sharp is now valued at £2.5m again.

 

[SwissBlade]

Ched's one of the players that i'd keep. If we show any ambition and we can realistically come to a deal with him then I'd keep him.

He was starting to come good when he got paired with Bent (initially) then Vokes, but has had a number of niggling injuries and illnesses so couldn't kick on.

 

[Kenilworth]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no Swiss. He has always been shit for us. Vokes was by far the most decent player of the two.
Ched has no Head. (not a comment about his Mrs) He has no football brain nor can he head the ball. He shies away from the ball and hides in a game. Cannot control the ball and has only one weapon (again no ref to his Mrs) and that is a loose canon. When he pulls the trigger you are not sure if it will hit the target or slice off into the crowd.
One of the most over rated, wastes of money ever to grace BDTBL.

The only balls he could show would be in his marble bag for play time.

 

[beechblade]

If he's back in time for Pre Season as is said this shouldn't effect any pre-arranged deal. If there was such a deal.

 

[Tuns]

Ched's one of the players that i'd keep. If we show any ambition and we can realistically come to a deal with him then I'd keep him.

He was starting to come good when he got paired with Bent (initially) then Vokes, but has had a number of niggling injuries and illnesses so couldn't kick on.

Not quick, not good in the air, can't read the game, not exactly a great goals per game ratio, not got outstanding technical ability. After all this time I still have no idea what his key attributes are and how we thought it was a good idea to blow bewteen 3m and 5m including wages on him when we were heading for financial meltdown.

Incredible how a £3m price tag and the fact he was from Man City clouded the judgement of so many Blades fans for so long though most have now seen the light.

 

[lenners]

Ched's one of the players that i'd keep. If we show any ambition and we can realistically come to a deal with him then I'd keep him.

He was starting to come good when he got paired with Bent (initially) then Vokes, but has had a number of niggling injuries and illnesses so couldn't kick on.

A realistic deal for Ched would be between £500 and £1000 per week.
I look forward to him accepting and trying to play his way into the team from the bench.

 

[alcoblade]

Ched's one of the players that i'd keep. If we show any ambition and we can realistically come to a deal with him then I'd keep him.

He was starting to come good when he got paired with Bent (initially) then Vokes, but has had a number of niggling injuries and illnesses so couldn't kick on.

You need your bumps feeling fella. A quarter of our gate income on Evans?

Vastly overpaid, vastly under-performing players - let's take this chance for a clean sweep.

UTB

 

[DronnieBlade]

I am sure that the majority view that Ched will leave on financial grounds will be how it plays out.

If this is the case, I want to be one of the first to state that I fully expect him to develop his potential at another club (probably Championship), score a good few goals and treble his value within 12 months.

We really do know how to ruin a decent striker !

 

[oldblade]

If Evans is being paid the sort of money that has been mentioned on here we have to move him on. I don't think there is any choice.

If he was a budding Brian Deane 20+ goal a season striker, then I might reconsider. But he isn't, and his impact on the side does not warrant anything like that expenditure.

 

[raul]

A fair few bites there Swiss you tinker.

 

[SwissBlade]

I've said before, I don't pay the wages, so the only concern I have that if the accountants at the club say we can afford him then the wage issue is done for me.

As a player I think he has far more to offer and if we can get a side that knocks it about a bit then he'll do well, similar to Billy in that respect, but not in the goal poaching sense (plus Ched has much more pace)

I noticed first half on Saturday that Slew was adopting a Ched style of play. He was getting no luck up front, so started drifting out wide on a number of occasions where he was ineffective.

So here goes - If we're going to keep Hendo or play with a very immobile centre forward like Henderson, then Ched may as well be sold. If we're going to bring in a Centre Forward that is more mobile and encourages the ball to feet, then Ched/ Slew could be a decent partner for them. Micky/ Corky have their work cut out if not.

Alternatively, we stick with an immobile Centre Forward and play just one up front.