Lewis O'Brien

[Swannyblade]

Not sure there is ever a good timing. Selling early in the window is ideal but West Ham have just done that and can't seem to be spend the Declan Rice money.

I meant straight after losing Ndiaye really…but earlier in the window would’ve been more ideal

 

[Bladesman]

I meant straight after losing Ndiaye really…but earlier in the window would’ve been more ideal

I think we were led down the garden path on Ndiaye. We got given a glimmer of hope that a some super contract was enough to keep him but it wasn't. I think we got played by his agent and to some extent Ndiaye himself.

Hence everything happening like it did.

 

[dillis]

Sell the Rolls and buy a Mondeo. Going to be a long season

 

[FTPE]

Sell the Rolls and buy a Mondeo. Going to be a long season

The Rolls didn't always leave the garage don't forget.
The Ford might be just around but it won't let you down.

 

[jt64]

Yes, because Ndiaye. I'm less bothered about losing Sander, but the timing couldn't be worse and it sends out a terrible message.

Indeed, I'd be happy enough to have cashed out on Berge at the amount being quoted, on the assumption that we were then able to get in Doyle on a permanent along with Slimane and someone on loan and retained Ndiaye. That we've sold both and have no recognised PL central midfielder is really worrying

 

[SUFCScorecard]

Indeed, I'd be happy enough to have cashed out on Berge at the amount being quoted, on the assumption that we were then able to get in Doyle on a permanent along with Slimane and someone on loan and retained Ndiaye. That we've sold both and have no recognised PL central midfielder is really worrying

I think people need to hold off on penciling Slimane into our first team. I think its going to be a major adjustment going into the PL, and the Brondby fans were far from effusive in their praise of him. Hopefully he's a smart long term pickup for 1.5m, but as far as I'm concerned we need 3 new starting midfielders if Berge leaves.

 

[Mesut Özil's Lawnmower]

So, bad as it perhaps is right now, if we end up in the very near future with a midfield three of Slimane-Vicinius-O’Brien behind a front two of Akpom and McBurnie and with two loans to come, are we that worse off?

I know why others are saying yes, and they could all flop, however if they don't then long term we're more secure due to Berge/Ndiaye expiring contracts

No reason to lose any of them upon relegation because they haven't/won't come in for big fees

 

[jt64]

I think people need to hold off on penciling Slimane into our first team. I think its going to be a major adjustment going into the PL, and the Brondby fans were far from effusive in their praise of him. Hopefully he's a smart long term pickup for 1.5m, but as far as I'm concerned we need 3 new starting midfielders if Berge leaves.

I don't disagree with you at all - just saying that I'd have been relatively fine given that in the hypothetical I was mentioning we'd have a central midfield of Doyle, random half decent loan and then Slimane/Norwood as appropriate, or as bench options if we were 5-2-1-2 with Ndiaye or someone else at 10. It's much easier for a developing player to fit in as the third option of a three, if getting immediate minutes at all, rather than quite possibly our best option full stop right now pending further incomings

 

[Harrisblade]

I know why others are saying yes, and they could all flop, however if they don't then long term we're more secure due to Berge/Ndiaye expiring contracts

No reason to lose any of them upon relegation because they haven't/won't come in for big fees

Does anyone consider £10m a big fee?

Nottingham Forest demand £10m from PL rivals for 24-year-old

The Reds don't want to loan him out again. Should he have a future at Forest?

www.nottinghamforest.news

 

[bladesmanluke]

Does anyone consider £10m a big fee?

Nottingham Forest demand £10m from PL rivals for 24-year-old

The Reds don't want to loan him out again. Should he have a future at Forest?

www.nottinghamforest.news

Yes I do for a player of his calibre. Nowhere near a £10m player. Neither is Souza

 

[dillis]

I don’t want us paying any more than £6m for him. That’s effectively what they paid and he’s hardly pulled up any trees. No pun intended.
Selling Berge and re investing the majority of that fee in O’Brien seems daft.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

£7.5m + add ons is what Id expect this deal to get done for.

 

[Blade58]

Assuming we have Souza, if we could get O’Brien and either Palmer or McAtee or Doyle on loan and then add a decent striker then I don’t think we’ll have done too bad

 

[bladesmanluke]

Assuming we have Souza, if we could get O’Brien and either Palmer or McAtee or Doyle on loan and then add a decent striker then I don’t think we’ll have done too bad

I'd agree had we not sold Berge and Ndiaye, but we have so actually we'll have done terribly and will have a weaker squad than we had in the championship. That is nothing short of ridiculous

 

[LJBlade]

Yes I do for a player of his calibre. Nowhere near a £10m player. Neither is Souza

I've not seen enough of Souza to be able to judge it properly. I've only really got the YouTube vid's to go on and we all know how misleading those can be. What makes you think he isn't worth £10m?

 

[DronnieBlade]

Hugely overrated player in these parts.
A decent Championship player. No more.

He’s no Sandra !

UTB

 

[Slim Man]

He's a good player, but he's not worth over £6m

I'd rather pay more and get Gus Hamer

 

[nopigfansintown]

Should be a 2-3 million job. I presume we are serious due to the amount of noise about him - particularly from the club mouthpieces. The scabs have FFP issues that we should be looking to take advantage of too. This is one you'd let run until the deadline if they don't play ball. We shouldn't be getting the big bucks out for such a prospect. Move on if a reasonable deal isn't possible; it's a big world out there.

 

[Mesut Özil's Lawnmower]

Does anyone consider £10m a big fee?

Nottingham Forest demand £10m from PL rivals for 24-year-old

The Reds don't want to loan him out again. Should he have a future at Forest?

www.nottinghamforest.news

Apparently a lot of people on here do, but not for me. We might spend £28m combined on Souza/O'Brien/Akpom. I'd consider that a big fee if it was for 1 player, not all 3. It might be an overpay for O'Brien but only by a couple of million. The club won't look at the fees spent on these individual players on relegation and think "we need to recoup that instantly".

 

[Bladesman]

I'd match the price they paid for him.

It's clear they have a few issues themselves at the moment with regards to paying players and agents.

 

[loyalblade95]

Should be a 2-3 million job. I presume we are serious due to the amount of noise about him - particularly from the club mouthpieces. The scabs have FFP issues that we should be looking to take advantage of too. This is one you'd let run until the deadline if they don't play ball. We shouldn't be getting the big bucks out for such a prospect. Move on if a reasonable deal isn't possible; it's a big world out there.

What was it, around £40 million for MGW, £20-25 million for Emmanuel Denis, around £10 million combined for Toffolo/O'Brien. There are others I'm sure (like Awoniyi) but I can't remember the rough figures for them. If some of these are even closely accurate I can see why they are having trouble with FFP.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

What was it, around £40 million for MGW, £20-25 million for Emmanuel Denis, around £10 million combined for Toffolo/O'Brien. There are others I'm sure (like Awoniyi) but I can't remember the rough figures for them. If some of these are even closely accurate I can see why they are having trouble with FFP.

Take above with a pinch of salt but…

They will have been paying insane wages to hendo other keeper and frees also.

The 124m doesn’t even include MGW or LOB.

Yeah there’s no way they can afford to keep spending and not fall foul of FFP. We should be lowballing on this basis really or I’d say that if we didn’t need a deal done yesterday.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I'd match the price they paid for him.

It's clear they have a few issues themselves at the moment with regards to paying players and agents.

At risk of sounding repetitive, it wasn't a good indicator of his true value as he was in the final year of his deal at Hudds.

Also, Forest are unlikely to sell a good player to a relegation rival cheaply.
That's what badly run clubs do...

 

[nopigfansintown]

What was it, around £40 million for MGW, £20-25 million for Emmanuel Denis, around £10 million combined for Toffolo/O'Brien. There are others I'm sure (like Awoniyi) but I can't remember the rough figures for them. If some of these are even closely accurate I can see why they are having trouble with FFP.

It's even more hefty. Maybe 200-250 million including wages, loan fees and transfer fees? Absolutely incredible really.

 

[Bladesman]

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Take above with a pinch of salt but…

They will have been paying insane wages to hendo other keeper and frees also.

The 124m doesn’t even include MGW or LOB.

Yeah there’s no way they can afford to keep spending and not fall foul of FFP. We should be lowballing on this basis really or I’d say that if we didn’t need a deal done yesterday.

That is a crazy amount of money especially when you throw in agent fees, wages and bonuses for staying up.

 

[loyalblade95]

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Take above with a pinch of salt but…

They will have been paying insane wages to hendo other keeper and frees also.

The 124m doesn’t even include MGW or LOB.

Yeah there’s no way they can afford to keep spending and not fall foul of FFP. We should be lowballing on this basis really or I’d say that if we didn’t need a deal done yesterday.

It's even more hefty. Maybe 200-250 million including wages, loan fees and transfer fees? Absolutely incredible really.

Wow, I didn't think it was that bad, especially when you work it out that Chelsea spent around that last summer alone but have already sold some players for significant fees in Jorginhio, Kovacic, Mount and Havertz.

Other than Brennan Johnson, MGW and perhaps Nico Williams, have Forest actually got any players they can even command a somewhat decent fee for to get anywhere near getting them out of FFP trouble.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Wow, I didn't think it was that bad, especially when you work it out that Chelsea spent around that last summer alone but have already sold some players for significant fees in Jorginhio, Kovacic, Mount and Havertz.

Other than Brennan Johnson, MGW and perhaps Nico Williams, have Forest actually got any players they can even command a somewhat decent fee for to get anywhere near getting them out of FFP trouble.

No, not really. MGW looks like the only one they could look to make a decent profit on.

 

[loyalblade95]

No, not really. MGW looks like the only one they could look to make a decent profit on.

It would have to be a decent profit tho to get anywhere near the money they actually spent on him, not to mention Wolves will probably have a decent sell-on clause in there as well.

 

[Barry Butlin]

Forest fans I know really liked Obrien and couldn’t believe it when he was dropped, 10 million is nothing nowadays, just pay the fee!!!

 

[ancientblade]

Forest fans I know really liked Obrien and couldn’t believe it when he was dropped, 10 million is nothing nowadays, just pay the fee!!!

i rate obrien but it seems the majority of our fans dont just think hecky sees him as the ideal fleck replacement in our system having said that i wouldnt go straight in with a 10m bid 5/7m with add ons if they wont accept that move on