Let's face the sad truth of it.

[blade too long]

I can only best guess and say that it's maybe because of how a deal is structured? I would think the term "undisclosed fee" has replaced "a deal worth". Say for example we sell a player and the deal is £500'000 down, £500'000 after 100 games, then the "deal worth" is £1m. The trouble with that is, when you buy a replacement, the club you are dealing with knows you have £1m because they have seen it in the media, and will inflate the price accordingly. If it's "undisclosed fee" then it may be more difficult for them to know exactly how much you have.

Like I said though, I'm taking a punt of a guess here.

clubs could really abuse such split payments , insisting say only 500k has been paid and hoping the other 500k plus they can cover from going up
so speculators get financial aid in a sense,
you could juggle figures around at will to stay within limits we only paid 80k for him and 920000 k if we go up

its is either fully transparency you go for or just another system with loop holes in it

 

[CarlMcBlade]

There is no room for sentiment here, he's got to get rid of most of these players. Although they might not have got him sacked(yet) This group of players have let Adkins down badly this season and have severely damaged his reputation with many fans, with a good number of them and maybe quite a few board members doubting that "sparkling CV."

 

[Sean Thornton]

I can only best guess and say that it's maybe because of how a deal is structured? I would think the term "undisclosed fee" has replaced "a deal worth". Say for example we sell a player and the deal is £500'000 down, £500'000 after 100 games, then the "deal worth" is £1m. The trouble with that is, when you buy a replacement, the club you are dealing with knows you have £1m because they have seen it in the media, and will inflate the price accordingly. If it's "undisclosed fee" then it may be more difficult for them to know exactly how much you have.

Like I said though, I'm taking a punt of a guess here.

All contracts are sent to the football authorities when signings are made. Plus under FFP/SCMP rules on going payments/receipts are forwarded regularly so these things are checked.

Although you don't get any breakdown, transfer fees are written off over the life of the players contract in the accounts so you get details of additions as a total year by year.

 

[The Crab]

All contracts are sent to the football authorities when signings are made. Plus under FFP/SCMP rules on going payments/receipts are forwarded regularly so these things are checked.

Although you don't get any breakdown, transfer fees are written off over the life of the players contract in the accounts so you get details of additions as a total year by year.

Thanks for that Sean, as I say it was a punt on my part. So hypothetically, given what you've said, if you were buying a player from me after I've just sold one, you'd have access to that info and have a fair idea how much I've got to spend?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Thanks for that Sean, as I say it was a punt on my part. So hypothetically, given what you've said, if you were buying a player from me after I've just sold one, you'd have access to that info and have a fair idea how much I've got to spend?

No, just the authorities, not other clubs, although I'm sure agents will be letting people know.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Again, another wonderfully poignant reminder of just how far we've come...

 

[Sean Thornton]

Again, another wonderfully poignant reminder of just how far we've come...

I think Za is still nailed to his cross.

 

[I should coco]

I think Za is still nailed to his cross.

Not you too!

Our Jack Tar anti-McCabe correspondent kept coming up with the religous imagery yesterday and it looks like you've now caught a dose.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Not you too!

Our Jack Tar anti-McCabe correspondent kept coming up with the religous imagery yesterday and it looks like you've now caught a dose.

Where?

 

[blade too long]

not one player of the 13 14 squad is still at the club

wilder has shipped out a shed load of players and we now have 5 new players ,so far

I just dont understand this out dated view some blades have that we arent moving forward
unless weve signed 5 or 6 5 million pound players the club dont care attitude is frankly disgusting
we are not a wealthy club , in 50 years weve never had that luxury

the team that started v barnsley

Moore

Basham

Wright

O'Connell

Baldock

Lundstram

Evans

Fleck

Stevens

Brooks

Clarke

well brooks weve offloaded he obviously wasnt helping us one of 13 games he lost for us

tell me is it fleck clarke or o connel you want to get rid of
was it bashm or moore

 

[Roygbiv]

not one player of the 13 14 squad is still at the club

wilder has shipped out a shed load of players and we now have 5 new players ,so far

I just dont understand this out dated view some blades have that we arent moving forward
unless weve signed 5 or 6 5 million pound players the club dont care attitude is frankly disgusting
we are not a wealthy club , in 50 years weve never had that luxury

the team that started v barnsley

Moore

Basham

Wright

O'Connell

Baldock

Lundstram

Evans

Fleck

Stevens

Brooks

Clarke

well brooks weve offloaded he obviously wasnt helping us one of 13 games he lost for us

tell me is it fleck clarke or o connel you want to get rid of
was it bashm or moore

The original post was made in 2016 when we drew 0-0 with Barnsley

 

[Sean Thornton]

The original post was made in 2016 when we drew 0-0 with Barnsley

He's closer than he was the other night. By about 115 years.

 

[blade too long]

The original post was made in 2016 when we drew 0-0 with Barnsley

still holds true , too many "fans" jut seem to have zero tolerance or patience with the club
some put the boot in first then fail to admit they were wrong

we are changing as a club
CW is seeing to that,
hes said now oconnells not for sale
but will some accept that as change , nah why should they ,
just wait for another moan fest

 

[blade too long]

He's closer than he was the other night. By about 115 years.

i had an absolut lovely evening though

 

[I should coco]

Where?

On the 'officlal transfer policy' thread.

I can't believe you missed all the 'fun'.

Were you cleaning pater's toilet seat again?

 

[pommpey]

Not you too!

Our Jack Tar anti-McCabe correspondent kept coming up with the religous imagery yesterday and it looks like you've now caught a dose.

True to form. Let's talk about:

a. Pommpey's job
b. How many games he's been to
c. How much munneh he puts into the club to qualify his right to comment

Rather than:

a. The almost fanatical, evangelical adherence to anything McCabe says about the current status of the FC, by some on this here message board.

Keep kissing ST's arse though. It's a look which suits you, sir.

pommpey

 

[blade too long]

True to form. Let's talk about:

a. Pommpey's job
b. How many games he's been to
c. How much munneh he puts into the club to qualify his right to comment

Rather than:

a. The almost fanatical, evangelical adherence to anything McCabe says about the current status of the FC, by some on this here message board.

Keep kissing ST's arse though. It's a look which suits you, sir.

pommpey

mccabes tenure is one of putting up money but making grevious errors of judgement

but we are all blades , I doubt it was ever his intention on say signing Bryan Robson to put us through the mill
on paper man u legend england captain

he just forgot to put he was a raging alcoholic on his cv
mc c wanted out but no one was interested absolutely no one
and got drawn back in , and its got better , not perfect , but better

hes spent the money , his appointees have wasted it on the whole
we dont have limitless fund , never have, he gives far more than I would with the flak he gets
id have read your posts and said , right fuck them let them whistle for it

hes not flawless , hes not a hero ,just a reasonably well off blade trying to help us
hasnt got what many would like in terms of wealth, by about a billion

he will still make mistakes as hes not that great at football related choices

dont fawn over him but honestly think he tries his best with what he has
which is what wed expect of anyone
been here a long time you expect some bad times over so long
but lets try and enjoy this improvement instead of harping over the past

we got relegated with currie and woodward but there was never this much bile around then , weve lost that ability to just enjoy it when its possible to, like the season ahead
too many will b looking to jump on the first sign of failure, instead of belief which we all started every season with

 

[I should coco]

True to form. Let's talk about:

a. Pommpey's job

You mentioned the Mob and the MOD on plenty of occassions as it suits, so don't go all coy on us now.

Rather than:

a. The almost fanatical, evangelical adherence to anything McCabe says about the current status of the FC, by some on this here message board.

I said today on another thread his biggest mistake was Robson, but I do accept that doesn't fit your agenda.

Keep kissing ST's arse though. It's a look which suits you, sir.

Thanks.

I'm hoping if I kiss it long enough he'll give me a biscuit.

 

[zablade]

This was posted in the Adkins days. Why it’s been brought back up now I don’t know.

If Adkins had stayed, which the majority on here wanted, including CW’s biggest fans I may add, it would have been correct. (Hammond would have been player coach)

Wilder has moved us on remarkably with limited backing at times.

If I was wrong about anything it was I didn’t think Wilder was the right appointment at the time and I admit that was a huge error and delighted to be wrong about it.

 

[zablade]

still holds true , too many "fans" jut seem to have zero tolerance or patience with the club
some put the boot in first then fail to admit they were wrong

we are changing as a club
CW is seeing to that,
hes said now oconnells not for sale
but will some accept that as change , nah why should they ,
just wait for another moan fest

Then we should have shown patience with Adkins?

Which was when the thread was posted !

 

[Harrisblade]

Then we should have shown patience with Adkins?

Which was when the thread was posted !

When the facts change - as football fans - we change our minds

 

[Harry's Game]

Any relevance to digging up posts from 2 or 3 years ago?

At least FM Blade only bumps his own old stuff back up

 

[blade too long]

Then we should have shown patience with Adkins?

Which was when the thread was posted !

Are you saying attitudes have changed
no one comes on in early july saying why havent we signed 20 players
weers moneeh gone , is still a common phrase ,
we lack pace , we just need 2 forwards 2 centre backs 3 midfielders and a keeper to stay up
had it all this summer

 

[8lade]

When the facts change - as football fans - we change our minds

I don't change my mind but I will freely admit to being wrong:
Why did we signed Derek Geary?
Chris Morgan isn't good enough for the Premier league.
David Weir as a manager, that doesn't sound too bad!
Not Billy Sharp again, we can do better than that!
Clarke? what a waste of money.

A;though I am right sometimes too but nobody likes a gloater.

 

[Kenilworth]

i had an absolut lovely evening though

Hardly surprising if you've been on the vodka

Explains a lot, though

 

[Topplayersleave]

Again, another wonderfully poignant reminder of just how far we've come...

Absolutely,
From dreading 8 or 9 of the same team playing the following season to being delighted that 8 or 9 of last seasons team are playing this coming season
And all that in two years

 

[blade too long]

Hardly surprising if you've been on the vodka

Explains a lot, though

did that night was still 36c at 8pm here , so started with the screwdrivers , trouble is with oange juice it disguises the kick

noted for oranges round here

 

[pommpey]

You mentioned the Mob and the MOD on plenty of occassions as it suits, so don't go all coy on us now.

More often than not (in fact, every time) not when referencing United and the shenanigans surrounding it's stewardship.

Good job I don't care what your job is, isn't it?

pommpey

 

[grafikhaus]

This was posted in the Adkins days. Why it’s been brought back up now I don’t know.

If Adkins had stayed, which the majority on here wanted, including CW’s biggest fans I may add, it would have been correct. (Hammond would have been player coach)

Wilder has moved us on remarkably with limited backing at times.

If I was wrong about anything it was I didn’t think Wilder was the right appointment at the time and I admit that was a huge error and delighted to be wrong about it.

Really? Adkins - against some pretty stiff competition - was one of our worst managers in recent years. Just 12 months in the job, he managed to steer us to mid-table in the third division. But it's good to look back and realise that you should learn from your mistakes. 'Football Heaven' tonight illustrates once again that this ability continues to escape the average Wednesday fan. Mark The Thick As Pig Shit Owl has been on defending Meeester Chansiri. 'It's his, yeah?, money, right? and he's got a right to put prices up. I've bought two season tickets.' Next up was an equally-moronic pig fan claiming that 'Wednesday are on a three-year project.' Will they ever learn? 'Premier League in five years.' etc? 'Are we on a transfer embargo?' The RS presenter - with patience that eludes me - pointed out that you only had to look at the clubs who haven't signed anybody to realise who was under an embargo. Others insist on calling their latest useless manager 'Jos', 'in Jos we troost' and other such bollocks. Their subservience is embarrassing. When was the last time Wednesday had a manager that we Blades were frightened about? Exactly. We've had Bassett, Warnock and now CW who have threatened their delusional belief that 'this city is ours'. They've had Carvalhal, Gray, Jones, Megson, Irvine, Laws, Sturrock, Turner, Yorath, Shreeves, Danny Wilson etc. etc.

'Meester Chansiri' is just the latest shill to have control of Wednesday, a long-established tradition that includes Dave Richards, Dave Allen, Mandaric, Lee Strafford etc. They have elevated the art of conning the gullible to an art form. Compare and contrast to some Rotherham fans who are determined to 'enjoy ourselves in The Championship'. The current spat between KMac and the Prince is a mere blip in the greater scheme of things. Hull hated the Allams, Cardiff hated their owners, but they've both been in the PL.

Wednesday know the balance of power has shifted firmly in United's favour these last two years. 'Injuries' and 'FFP' are just the latest two excuses.

 

[Sean Thornton]

True to form. Let's talk about:

a. Pommpey's job
b. How many games he's been to
c. How much munneh he puts into the club to qualify his right to comment

Rather than:

a. The almost fanatical, evangelical adherence to anything McCabe says about the current status of the FC, by some on this here message board.

Keep kissing ST's arse though. It's a look which suits you, sir.

pommpey

You'll get suspended again if you can't control yourself.