Leaving your ground for the last time

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Not sure that building a bigger stadium around your old one is really classed as moving.
There's the fourth side and hotel built around ours?

I would assume that there is nothing stopping them keeping the 'White Hart Lane' name if they wanted to.

Money cannot buy memories of BDTBL .

 

[knowsnowt]

Ha ha... so it'll be at Wybourn . Good luck to them there

Fuck that, not having those grunting bastards and their pointy song bollox on my doorstep!

 

[Isar]

When Tottenham play at Wembley they are likely to beat the record crowd for a league game in the English league.

Agree, they hold the highest gate at the moment for an English club, in the Champions League. Manure playing Arsenal at Maine Road is the highest league attendance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_record_home_attendances_of_English_football_clubs

 

[1973Blade]

Due to our location and amount of land we have I can't see us moving. Infact in 30 years time I think Bramall Lane will be one of the few traditional grounds left.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Biggest balls up of a move ever was Shammers to the poorly named, soulless London stadium. Upton park had passion, atmosphere, tension. You were crammed in around the touchline, they are now a bus ride from the pitch, for me they destroyed what they are by moving. Man City aren't far behind, Maine road was hostile, volatile - Ethiad is a library.

Old traditional grounds are dying out for greed, do not chuck ours away.

 

[tyneblade]

I think i could bear what Bournemouth did which seems to be knock the old ground down turn the pitch through 90 degrees and rebuild it with more modern facilities.

 

[Mesut Özil's Lawnmower]

Not sure that building a bigger stadium around your old one is really classed as moving.
There's the fourth side and hotel built around ours?

I would assume that there is nothing stopping them keeping the 'White Hart Lane' name if they wanted to.

Nothing but money

I imagine it will come back as something like The B&M Bargains Arena

 

[Isar]

Biggest balls up of a move ever was Shammers to the poorly named, soulless London stadium. Upton park had passion, atmosphere, tension. You were crammed in around the touchline, they are now a bus ride from the pitch, for me they destroyed what they are by moving. Man City aren't far behind, Maine road was hostile, volatile - Ethiad is a library.

Old traditional grounds are dying out for greed, do not chuck ours away.

Agree about mancity, turned into manutd, dull atmosphere at virtually every home game, thousands of empty seats for the last 10 minutes as all the home fans head to the exits.

 

[bromtom]

Watched the end, a great ground. Always thought United should look at certain aspects of White Hart Lane for inspiration, like the screens built in to the stands.

Really sad to see another proper tight football ground go, it's great to see fans so close to the pitch, really enhances the atmosphere. London Stadium is absolutely shithouse in that regard.

Might be another one going in a couple of years if Everton move.

United will never leave Bramall Lane, we'll just build up and out. In a future of driverless cars and whatnot, who needs car parks, new mega Kop and 3 tier South Stand for the 2025 Treble winning team haha

 

[Ginger Gnome]

If we did for any reason build a new stadium within the Cherry Street/Shoreham Street/John Street/Bramall Lane boundaries, had to move out for a season before moving back into a stadium with a sellout sponsor name and the pitch in a slightly different position, would you consider that a whole new ground, or just a rebuilt Bramall Lane?

It'd be the end of an era if all the current stands were demolished in one go rather than one at a time like they have been in the past, but it'd still be home. I don't really get the over-the-top Spurs reactions to moving halfway next door.

 

[TJB.]

If we did for any reason build a new stadium within the Cherry Street/Shoreham Street/John Street/Bramall Lane boundaries, had to move out for a season before moving back into a stadium with a sellout sponsor name and the pitch in a slightly different position, would you consider that a whole new ground, or just a rebuilt Bramall Lane?

It'd be the end of an era if all the current stands were demolished in one go rather than one at a time like they have been in the past, but it'd still be home. I don't really get the over-the-top Spurs reactions to moving halfway next door.

A rebuilt Bramall Lane.

The boundary of the land upon which Bramall Lane resides is to this day the exact same as it has ever been. As long as we stay within that boundary, it's Bramall Lane to me.

Same for WHL, really.

 

[bromtom]

If we did for any reason build a new stadium within the Cherry Street/Shoreham Street/John Street/Bramall Lane boundaries, had to move out for a season before moving back into a stadium with a sellout sponsor name and the pitch in a slightly different position, would you consider that a whole new ground, or just a rebuilt Bramall Lane?

It'd be the end of an era if all the current stands were demolished in one go rather than one at a time like they have been in the past, but it'd still be home. I don't really get the over-the-top Spurs reactions to moving halfway next door.

For me, I think for it to be the same ground a certain percentage of the pitch has to be in the same place. So for United, if they moved the pitch a couple of metres into the main carpark just for a bit more room at the back of John Street, then you're basically looking at the same bit of grass from the same place in the new and old ground.

If they turned the pitch 90 degrees I don't think it would feel right, because everyone would be in the wrong place, like a feng shui type deal, the Kop should always face West, south stand should always be the southernmost stand or whatever, but it'd probably be the same ground, since it's occupying most of the same space.

Tottenham fans will still call it White Hart Lane I imagine.

 

[Tyler Durden]

I once scoured Bilbao looking for the old San Mames stadium, only to find that they'd built the new one in the same spot.

Back to the topic, if United ever leaves Bramall Lane I'm done, I'll never set foot inside any new construct.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

How sad will Tottenham fans feel leaving their proud old stadium at White Hart Lane for the last time today? Please Blades, never do that to us! No stadium could feel like home for us like Bramall Lane does!

White Hart Lane is actually inside the new errrm........White Hart Lane

 

[YouFUMS]

The top Premier league clubs aren't building new grounds for their fans...They're building new tourist attractions for the next set of visitors that romp up once or twice a year claiming to be lifelong fans. Much like I am a lifelong fan of Bakewell, which I visit 2 or 3 times a year for a day out.

 

[1973Blade]

White Hart Lane is actually inside the new errrm........White Hart Lane

Neither ground is actually on White Hart Lane, the fraudsters!

 

[CarlMcBlade]

It's a bit like "Triggers brush" really.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

If they go up I think there's a genuine chance of Chansiri building a wankodrome somewhere off the Parkway. As an outsider he's no affinity to the existing shed so why spend loads on doing it up when there are more cost effective options.

Two mates, Wednesday fans, were telling me the exact same thing Friday night, it'll be near where Sheff airport used to be. One of the mates who told me thought it would be great "Handsworth becoming Wednesday". Wasn't quite sure why he thought that would happen seeing as it would be nearer Catcliffe, Brinsworth or Darnall, but I thought it would be ideal for them, soulless out of town stadium, no pubs, no proper matchday experience bar the rar-rar pig band, no nothing really. Fact ... there'd be a better atmosphere down the road at Oliver's Mount when Parramores move back there next season.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

Two mates, Wednesday fans, were telling me the exact same thing Friday night, it'll be near where Sheff airport used to be. One of the mates who told me thought it would be great "Handsworth becoming Wednesday". Wasn't quite sure why he thought that would happen seeing as it would be nearer Catcliffe, Brinsworth or Darnall, but I thought it would be ideal for them, soulless out of town stadium, no pubs, no proper matchday experience bar the rar-rar pig band, no nothing really. Fact ... there'd be a better atmosphere down the road at Oliver's Mount when Parramores move back there next season.

All about the euro!!

 

[wizadry]

I once scoured Bilbao looking for the old San Mames stadium, only to find that they'd built the new one in the same spot.

Back to the topic, if United ever leaves Bramall Lane I'm done, I'll never set foot inside any new construct.

Totally agree.

Bramall Lane is all about the all day experience for me, getting to the surrounding areas, having a drink before and after, meeting your family, friends or even new people, but most of all stepping foot inside the ground to watch the team we've grown up watching and supporting through thick and thin that has character and a soul.

All this won't be possible if we were ever to move and I say this merely from a personal point of view.

 

[TJB.]

Two mates, Wednesday fans, were telling me the exact same thing Friday night, it'll be near where Sheff airport used to be. One of the mates who told me thought it would be great "Handsworth becoming Wednesday". Wasn't quite sure why he thought that would happen seeing as it would be nearer Catcliffe, Brinsworth or Darnall, but I thought it would be ideal for them, soulless out of town stadium, no pubs, no proper matchday experience bar the rar-rar pig band, no nothing really. Fact ... there'd be a better atmosphere down the road at Oliver's Mount when Parramores move back there next season.

They'll get a shitload of real estate cash for the land.

People are queieng up to live in-between a dual carriageway, a Burger King and a crackhead's park.

Close by to numerous pork shops and a Bargain Beers.

What's not to love?

 

[SB_90]

I couldnt imagine leaving bramall lane for the final timeId probally cry my eyes out espically where 8/10 stadiums look exactly the same. As it is our home & got so many memories would be like member of family dieing. Anything that happened probally wouldnt be as good because it wouldnt be bramall lane

 

[metalblade]

Two mates, Wednesday fans, were telling me the exact same thing Friday night, it'll be near where Sheff airport used to be. One of the mates who told me thought it would be great "Handsworth becoming Wednesday". Wasn't quite sure why he thought that would happen seeing as it would be nearer Catcliffe, Brinsworth or Darnall, but I thought it would be ideal for them, soulless out of town stadium, no pubs, no proper matchday experience bar the rar-rar pig band, no nothing really. Fact ... there'd be a better atmosphere down the road at Oliver's Mount when Parramores move back there next season.

The new Sty is supposedly earmarked for the bit of land on Weedon St, you can see mock ups on Porktalk and quite a few pigs are all for it seeing as they need at least 60,000 seats when they get promotion in a few weeks.

 

[JJBlade]

Spurs stadium is on the same site
They are not moving as such.
One of the corners at WHL has been taken down to allow building work to be done
A part of Spurs new stadium will practically protrude into the old one

It would be like us building our new stadium partly in the car park and partly on the existing site

 

[Tyler Durden]

Totally agree.

Bramall Lane is all about the all day experience for me, getting to the surrounding areas, having a drink before and after, meeting your family, friends or even new people, but most of all stepping foot inside the ground to watch the team we've grown up watching and supporting through thick and thin that has character and a soul.

All this won't be possible if we were ever to move and I say this merely from a personal point of view.

Exactly, our ground with its long and unique history is intrinsic to the very identity of the club, it's the very heart of it. I can't seperate Sheffield United from Bramall Lane in my mind. Take one away and there ceases to be any real point to the other.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Anyone rang the thread police?
Normally this sort of thing results in trial by jury.

 

[JJBlade]

Could see S6 moving and existing plot becoming a Tesco , residential . They could move to Deepcar . The delusion is a bit like Everton thinking they would get gates of 50 to 60,000. The cost is balanced against upgrading and bringing up to required standards of Hillsborough . Might sound madness but the Tuna fella will start the ball rolling for this , after balancing his own financial expenditure if they go up to the premier league .
Glad we have still got McCabe and not some Jonny Foreigner running the show fully

Just one thing
Everton would get 50-60,000 attendances given the correct circumstances, they truly are a massive club. They just haven't had the same investment as Man City and Chelsea so have sort of lost their traditional "top five" status.
Probably because of their stubborn traditions of working class scouseness

West Ham for example have absolutely no history of 50,000 + attendances no matter how well they have done in the past, but they are getting them now

Things change and clubs that don't change will be left behind

 

[Sean Thornton]

I once scoured Bilbao looking for the old San Mames stadium, only to find that they'd built the new one in the same spot.

Back to the topic, if United ever leaves Bramall Lane I'm done, I'll never set foot inside any new construct.

It's next door.

The best euro break you can ever have. Fabulous place.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Just one thing
Everton would get 50-60,000 attendances given the correct circumstances, they truly are a massive club. They just haven't had the same investment as Man City and Chelsea so have sort of lost their traditional "top five" status.
Probably because of their stubborn traditions of working class scouseness

West Ham for example have absolutely no history of 50,000 + attendances no matter how well they have done in the past, but they are getting them now

Things change and clubs that don't change will be left behind

West Hams ticket system has pretty much resulted in many sell outs over the years. It's no surprise they've attracted. 50k gates. Hardly glory hunters are they?

Everton were a huge club. A great club. What are the "correct circumstances" ?

 

[1973Blade]

Hopefully Tottenham's new ground will cater for away coaches to avoid the mile walk through neighbouring estates.