League One gossip: Manchester City line up £3m bid for Sheffield United starlet

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vorpal blade said:
when did selling a player for £1, £2, £3, £4 million ever do us any good?

(we are a football club btw)
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Best I can think of is Warnie getting rid of Bent and using some of the money to sign Brown or Kendall selling Blake to fund Taylor etc.
Bassett selling Beagrie?
 

BushBlade said:
For those who missed it, it was posted a couple of days ago that his dad has just died.

Can't imagine what that's like at his age but I'd guess it's pretty shit and probably affected his performances.
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I apologise for my comments about him thinking he's billy big boots, because of course going to affect his performances as it would anyone

just me being stupid tarring all players with Same brush
 
vorpal blade said:
when did selling a player for £1, £2, £3, £4 million ever do us any good?

(we are a football club btw)
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We sold Terry Curran to Everton and used the money to do up the bogs at the back of the Kop. Now that was a fair deal.

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Laughable.
Man City like the rest of the footballing world know full well that if you want a promising player from Sheffield United you don't need to offer £3 million.

We should sell him to Southampton for £1 million with a 25% sell on clause. Then we'd probably end up with a decent price for him eventually.
It would also give the boardroom time to use the funds up gradually so they can plausibly fail to replace him.
 
Smirth said:
Some of these comments are laughable, he's 19 FFS. He's shown patches of real quality, something to work on and develop. How people can be so quick to give up on him I've no idea.

Just back him, he's not perfect and will make more mistakes no doubt as most people his age do. He's not been brought up in the professional game and has only spent the last year at a professional club so it's bound to be a learning curve for him.
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If we were in the championship I would agree. Truth is we are a club struggling to get out of L1 and can't afford to nurture and protect him. We need players to do a job now. I might be wrong cause I thought he would rip this league a new one this season, however, I think he needs more time and development than we can offer. That level of money would rebuild our shite side into play off contenders.
 
Blade56 said:
If we were in the championship I would agree. Truth is we are a club struggling to get out of L1 and can't afford to nurture and protect him. We need players to do a job now. I might be wrong cause I thought he would rip this league a new one this season, however, I think he needs more time and development than we can offer. That level of money would rebuild our shite side into play off contenders.
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Can't afford to nurture and protect him? He'll be on next to nothing compared to some of our players, mate.

Also, what makes you think that we'll rebuild with the money and make us into play off contenders? You have more hope than me, mate.
 
Yes that 3 million would certainly help us as selling our better players and prospects over the the 9 years has really helped us out.

The money will also go towards paying the salarys of the adcocks and collins' of this world.

Great business if you ask me
 
Following-on from my "let's pay off the dead-wood and de-clutter" post on another thread , this is the problem :

The board have quite rightly been whinging-on at NA to slim-down the squad.
NA hasn't come out and stated to the board which players he wants to move-on or (as radical as it sounds) pay-off , using the bonus FA Cup cash ("they're all hard-working professionals").
If NA won't tell the board which of the ones whose contracts are up in June are the "dead-men walking" TODAY , the board are going to get fed-up of asking him , and start making their own decisions (God help us !)

So the board have a look at the recent teamsheets and see that Adams isn't starting.
"My goodness" , they say to themselves , "here's a few £m that isn't even in the first eleven !"
And true to their history , the cash-hungry board , who can't see beyond the end of their noses (because they're still getting 20,000 crowds so WTF ?) cave-in at the first whiff of cash.

Our transfer-dealings become entirely REACTIVE instead of being PROACTIVE , because NA won't nail his colours to the mast and at least give the impression to the board that :
A) he knows who is is best 11 and best 18 ; and
B) he knows who he would immediately and decisively jettison , if he could pay them off today.

So the 2 owners who aren't even in the UK are not "well-managed" by NA and when they get an offer for any of our better players (who are naturally worth £money) they can say :
"Well , we can't keep paying 43 professionals............and NA never really told us who he wanted to get rid of ......nor did he tell us who we absolutely must NOT get rid of...........so we just got rid of the players for whom we had an offer ..............sorry fans , what else were we supposed to do ?

Is Adams part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Baxter part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Collins part of NA's plans or not ?
Is McEveley really a captain, with his immature tackles , or does NA have the balls to change it to Brayford ?
Is Reed part of NA's plans or not ?
I could go on and on - but the gist is that NA appears to be indecisive about most of the squad.

And this would be OK - to roll along rudderless till June - if it were not for the fact that NA keeps saying he wants to achieve promotion NOW - RIGHT NOW , if not before !

Nigel , you will never get a winning team/squad , let alone promotion , until you act more decisively and give the board some confidence in your strategy.
If I was your Chairman or Chief Exec , I would be tearing my hair out !
 
I still think we should get some kind of refund from Man City on the last player involved in a £3million deal between the two clubs.

The last I heard Jim was still looking for the receipt.
 
Blade56 said:
If we were in the championship I would agree. Truth is we are a club struggling to get out of L1 and can't afford to nurture and protect him. We need players to do a job now. I might be wrong cause I thought he would rip this league a new one this season, however, I think he needs more time and development than we can offer. That level of money would rebuild our shite side into play off contenders.
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In theory yes ..... except that the revenue wouldn't be likely to be reinvested in player acquisitions ....... :rolleyes:

UITB & FTP
 
Sorry , I got carried away and forgot to give my view on Adams.

Keep him. His wages are small and selling him hardly brings the wage-bill down at all.

He might not be in the first team just now , but he has potential to develop into someone worth £30m , never mind £3m.

The only reason for selling him would be if the owners wanted to cash in on an asset which has appreciated.

They would not put the money back into the Club.

It would be trousered , keerching - unless NA actually had a deal already negotiated for a couple of young upcoming players to the same value , in which Adam's buyer paid the seller of our new men directly !

The minute that transfer money gets into to the Lane bank accounts , it may as well never have existed.
 

Keen Blade said:
Following-on from my "let's pay off the dead-wood and de-clutter" post on another thread , this is the problem :

The board have quite rightly been whinging-on at NA to slim-down the squad.
NA hasn't come out and stated to the board which players he wants to move-on or (as radical as it sounds) pay-off , using the bonus FA Cup cash ("they're all hard-working professionals").
If NA won't tell the board which of the ones whose contracts are up in June are the "dead-men walking" TODAY , the board are going to get fed-up of asking him , and start making their own decisions (God help us !)

So the board have a look at the recent teamsheets and see that Adams isn't starting.
"My goodness" , they say to themselves , "here's a few £m that isn't even in the first eleven !"
And true to their history , the cash-hungry board , who can't see beyond the end of their noses (because they're still getting 20,000 crowds so WTF ?) cave-in at the first whiff of cash.

Our transfer-dealings become entirely REACTIVE instead of being PROACTIVE , because NA won't nail his colours to the mast and at least give the impression to the board that :
A) he knows who is is best 11 and best 18 ; and
B) he knows who he would immediately and decisively jettison , if he could pay them off today.

So the 2 owners who aren't even in the UK are not "well-managed" by NA and when they get an offer for any of our better players (who are naturally worth £money) they can say :
"Well , we can't keep paying 43 professionals............and NA never really told us who he wanted to get rid of ......nor did he tell us who we absolutely must NOT get rid of...........so we just got rid of the players for whom we had an offer ..............sorry fans , what else were we supposed to do ?

Is Adams part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Baxter part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Collins part of NA's plans or not ?
Is McEveley really a captain, with his immature tackles , or does NA have the balls to change it to Brayford ?
Is Reed part of NA's plans or not ?
I could go on and on - but the gist is that NA appears to be indecisive about most of the squad.

And this would be OK - to roll along rudderless till June - if it were not for the fact that NA keeps saying he wants to achieve promotion NOW - RIGHT NOW , if not before !

Nigel , you will never get a winning team/squad , let alone promotion , until you act more decisively and give the board some confidence in your strategy.
If I was your Chairman or Chief Exec , I would be tearing my hair out !
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Good post apart from the"true to their history " comment which is a bit harsh for a 50% owner and a new board in existence since Sep 2012.
 
Keen Blade said:
Following-on from my "let's pay off the dead-wood and de-clutter" post on another thread , this is the problem :

The board have quite rightly been whinging-on at NA to slim-down the squad.
NA hasn't come out and stated to the board which players he wants to move-on or (as radical as it sounds) pay-off , using the bonus FA Cup cash ("they're all hard-working professionals").
If NA won't tell the board which of the ones whose contracts are up in June are the "dead-men walking" TODAY , the board are going to get fed-up of asking him , and start making their own decisions (God help us !)

So the board have a look at the recent teamsheets and see that Adams isn't starting.
"My goodness" , they say to themselves , "here's a few £m that isn't even in the first eleven !"
And true to their history , the cash-hungry board , who can't see beyond the end of their noses (because they're still getting 20,000 crowds so WTF ?) cave-in at the first whiff of cash.

Our transfer-dealings become entirely REACTIVE instead of being PROACTIVE , because NA won't nail his colours to the mast and at least give the impression to the board that :
A) he knows who is is best 11 and best 18 ; and
B) he knows who he would immediately and decisively jettison , if he could pay them off today.

So the 2 owners who aren't even in the UK are not "well-managed" by NA and when they get an offer for any of our better players (who are naturally worth £money) they can say :
"Well , we can't keep paying 43 professionals............and NA never really told us who he wanted to get rid of ......nor did he tell us who we absolutely must NOT get rid of...........so we just got rid of the players for whom we had an offer ..............sorry fans , what else were we supposed to do ?

Is Adams part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Baxter part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Collins part of NA's plans or not ?
Is McEveley really a captain, with his immature tackles , or does NA have the balls to change it to Brayford ?
Is Reed part of NA's plans or not ?
I could go on and on - but the gist is that NA appears to be indecisive about most of the squad.

And this would be OK - to roll along rudderless till June - if it were not for the fact that NA keeps saying he wants to achieve promotion NOW - RIGHT NOW , if not before !

Nigel , you will never get a winning team/squad , let alone promotion , until you act more decisively and give the board some confidence in your strategy.
If I was your Chairman or Chief Exec , I would be tearing my hair out !
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"Well , we can't keep paying 43 professionals

In his latest interview NA said we had 46 pros, hopefully he got his figures wrong or he has unearthed another three they forgot about :(
 
Having a new (50%) owner changed our prospects in 2012. We were on our way to oblivion and up to now the level of investment has given us a couple more bites at the cherry without any significant improvement due to the under-performance of the incumbent managers. Nobody would disagree with that surely.

When a club rescues itself, gets some momentum and climbs to the Premier league over 2/3 years, it goes through phases. At some stages it simply cannot refuse to sell the best players, regardless of it's own funding. The money from the Prem. these days is obscene and distorts everything.

Southampton have gone through 3/4 phases. Only this season can they afford to ward off bids from the top 4/6 clubs and even now they are in no-mans' land in the Prem.

Us supporters are on the wrong side of the tracks, probably for a lifetime. I'm 67 and that's been the case for me supporting our lot in much more benevolent times for smaller clubs.

We're on the wrong side of the tracks fellow Blades. The Prince's substantial investment has kept us where we are.

We need a Messiah or whatever the equivalent terminology is in Saudi Arabia and their religion.
 
Keen Blade said:
Following-on from my "let's pay off the dead-wood and de-clutter" post on another thread , this is the problem :

The board have quite rightly been whinging-on at NA to slim-down the squad.
NA hasn't come out and stated to the board which players he wants to move-on or (as radical as it sounds) pay-off , using the bonus FA Cup cash ("they're all hard-working professionals").
If NA won't tell the board which of the ones whose contracts are up in June are the "dead-men walking" TODAY , the board are going to get fed-up of asking him , and start making their own decisions (God help us !)

So the board have a look at the recent teamsheets and see that Adams isn't starting.
"My goodness" , they say to themselves , "here's a few £m that isn't even in the first eleven !"
And true to their history , the cash-hungry board , who can't see beyond the end of their noses (because they're still getting 20,000 crowds so WTF ?) cave-in at the first whiff of cash.

Our transfer-dealings become entirely REACTIVE instead of being PROACTIVE , because NA won't nail his colours to the mast and at least give the impression to the board that :
A) he knows who is is best 11 and best 18 ; and
B) he knows who he would immediately and decisively jettison , if he could pay them off today.

So the 2 owners who aren't even in the UK are not "well-managed" by NA and when they get an offer for any of our better players (who are naturally worth £money) they can say :
"Well , we can't keep paying 43 professionals............and NA never really told us who he wanted to get rid of ......nor did he tell us who we absolutely must NOT get rid of...........so we just got rid of the players for whom we had an offer ..............sorry fans , what else were we supposed to do ?

Is Adams part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Baxter part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Collins part of NA's plans or not ?
Is McEveley really a captain, with his immature tackles , or does NA have the balls to change it to Brayford ?
Is Reed part of NA's plans or not ?
I could go on and on - but the gist is that NA appears to be indecisive about most of the squad.

And this would be OK - to roll along rudderless till June - if it were not for the fact that NA keeps saying he wants to achieve promotion NOW - RIGHT NOW , if not before !

Nigel , you will never get a winning team/squad , let alone promotion , until you act more decisively and give the board some confidence in your strategy.
If I was your Chairman or Chief Exec , I would be tearing my hair out !
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So because Mr Adkins hasn't told you what he's thinking this means
a) he hasn't made a decision
which further means
b) the board will make decisions for him.

Would you consider yourself to have an overactive imagination? ;)
 
Keen Blade said:
Following-on from my "let's pay off the dead-wood and de-clutter" post on another thread , this is the problem :

The board have quite rightly been whinging-on at NA to slim-down the squad.
NA hasn't come out and stated to the board which players he wants to move-on or (as radical as it sounds) pay-off , using the bonus FA Cup cash ("they're all hard-working professionals").
If NA won't tell the board which of the ones whose contracts are up in June are the "dead-men walking" TODAY , the board are going to get fed-up of asking him , and start making their own decisions (God help us !)

So the board have a look at the recent teamsheets and see that Adams isn't starting.
"My goodness" , they say to themselves , "here's a few £m that isn't even in the first eleven !"
And true to their history , the cash-hungry board , who can't see beyond the end of their noses (because they're still getting 20,000 crowds so WTF ?) cave-in at the first whiff of cash.

Our transfer-dealings become entirely REACTIVE instead of being PROACTIVE , because NA won't nail his colours to the mast and at least give the impression to the board that :
A) he knows who is is best 11 and best 18 ; and
B) he knows who he would immediately and decisively jettison , if he could pay them off today.

So the 2 owners who aren't even in the UK are not "well-managed" by NA and when they get an offer for any of our better players (who are naturally worth £money) they can say :
"Well , we can't keep paying 43 professionals............and NA never really told us who he wanted to get rid of ......nor did he tell us who we absolutely must NOT get rid of...........so we just got rid of the players for whom we had an offer ..............sorry fans , what else were we supposed to do ?

Is Adams part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Baxter part of NA's plans or not ?
Is Collins part of NA's plans or not ?
Is McEveley really a captain, with his immature tackles , or does NA have the balls to change it to Brayford ?
Is Reed part of NA's plans or not ?
I could go on and on - but the gist is that NA appears to be indecisive about most of the squad.

And this would be OK - to roll along rudderless till June - if it were not for the fact that NA keeps saying he wants to achieve promotion NOW - RIGHT NOW , if not before !

Nigel , you will never get a winning team/squad , let alone promotion , until you act more decisively and give the board some confidence in your strategy.
If I was your Chairman or Chief Exec , I would be tearing my hair out !
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Seems to be a lot of assumptions in your post KB. Are you basing these on fact or are they opinions?
Do you know that NA has not told the board which players he wants to move on? Perhaps the board are dictating the situation? Perhaps the dictating is done by which clubs wish to purchase our players?

When you say that our our transfer dealings are reactive rather than proactive because NA won't nail his colours to the mast, how do you know this? How do you know what has been said behind closed doors to the board? Unless of course you are privy to this information?

NA said today he is working on two permanent signings. This suggests to me he knows who he is after and therefore perhaps he is being proactive.

The players you've listed above may indeed be a correct scenario, but of course to some degree it's out of his hands. Players can only be moved on to other clubs if they are wanted by those clubs. I would imagine NA has a plan A, plan B, plan C etc dependent upon which of those listed players leave.

I would lay money on it that NA will have at some point listed a desired retained list of players. I would also lay money on it that where possible the board will try to accommodate him. However, we also all know full well it's never as easy as that
 
Smirth said:
Some of these comments are laughable, he's 19 FFS. He's shown patches of real quality, something to work on and develop. How people can be so quick to give up on him I've no idea.

Just back him, he's not perfect and will make more mistakes no doubt as most people his age do. He's not been brought up in the professional game and has only spent the last year at a professional club so it's bound to be a learning curve for him.
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Could say similar thing about Diego, but he is constantly sniped at even though he is still a Blades player. Che will get the backing from the people that matter at the club but needs to rediscover the promise he showed when he first arrived. Picking up needless red cards don't help.
 
Che's potential is vastly underestimated because people forget that he has come from non league football.
I would compare him to Ian Wright who was playing for Greenwich Borough at age 21 or more recently Jamie Vardie.
These players that come from non league football tend to be later developing because they have missed out on professional coaching.
The madness of the bonkers to sell him now at the stage that he is cementing a spot in the first team.
 
Hey, they can afford to take a chance on the lad...I think a lot's up to Che how good he could become, he's got the attributes to succeed....
 
McCabe takes a lot of flack for being reluctant to put his hand in his pocket and some times I agree.
But if we have to have 43/46 ? professionals on the books to make up a team that's not even in the top six of the third div. .
I think in his place I'd be a bit pissed as well.....:mad:
 
SandyMcBlade said:
McCabe takes a lot of flack for being reluctant to put his hand in his pocket and some times I agree.
But if we have to have 43/46 ? professionals on the books to make up a team that's not even in the top six of the third div. .
I think in his place I'd be a bit pissed as well.....:mad:
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Thanks Kev , well said .:D

UTB
 
wizadry said:
Can't afford to nurture and protect him? He'll be on next to nothing compared to some of our players, mate.

Also, what makes you think that we'll rebuild with the money and make us into play off contenders? You have more hope than me, mate.
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I still practice blind faith and if there's truth in the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome then you've got me, I'm bonkers :confused:
 
Blade56 said:
I still practice blind faith and if there's truth in the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome then you've got me, I'm bonkers :confused:
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Tell me something i don't know, mate! :D
 

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