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Hi All

Not a frequent poster on this site but just wanted to give my opinion of events.

I though the first half was very very poor, although I will say that I think people are going over the top when saying 'the worst I have ever seen' did you not see the Crewe, Fleetwood games last season, I also remember United not having a single chance when we got beat by Barnsley! Yes we were poor in the first half but you need to break the game up a little bit, apart from the 2 they scored what other chances did they have? they hit the bar from 25 yards, that's not a chance, they had a pop shot from out wide which was palmed out by Howard, again not a chance. United on the other hand had 3 clear cut chances in the first half. I am not defending them but please just put the game into context.


Second half I thought United were the better side by a mile, it makes me laugh that some people around me think that Sheffield United should not be letting the opposition in our half never mind score. Again we have missed 3/4 guilt edge chances to win the game, their 3rd goal summed our luck up a bit, fizzed off Freeman, spun past 2 of our players, players runs on, takes a deflection and nestles in the corner! We have a lot of faults in our side, we lack pace in the right areas and our Tempo is pedestrian at times but I am still confident we will get it right, we have created more chances in the last 2 games then we did under clough all season.

My Player ratings would be as follows (bare in mind everyone starts on a 7)

Howard - 7, Nothing he could do with all 3 goals, good save from the free kick

Mcevely - 6, Feel sorry for him, some of the abuse he got last night was a disgrace, the amount of people that watch football who have not got a clue is beyond me. he is not great but is certainly not as bad as people are sayin

Collins - 8, didn't put a foot wrong all night

Edgar - 6, again didn't really do a lot wrong, I think we thought he was the answer when we saw him against Blackpool (the worst team I have seen at the lane for a long time) but there is a reason why he cannot get into an average championship side

Freeman - 8, I like him, I like his passion I like him going forward

Wollford - 6, Another scapegoat at the moment, actually spend some time to watch him off the ball, he is always looking for it, always working hard.

Baxter - 5, not on it tonight, seemed to be hiding at times

Basham - 6, Cant fault his effort, what type of a midfield player is he tho? He doesn't defend or attack great. He is jo average on the ball as well.

JCR - 7, our main attacking threat all game, needs to be more consistent although given his age and the amount of games he has played its unlikely

Sharp - 7, Played well tonight, worked hard, good movement, he will not keep missing like that, people saying he is not the answer has he not scored 4 in 4?

Sammon - 5, Not the answer, I said this when we signed him, his touch is not good enough with his back to goal.

McNulty - 6, one good run and a poor finish and that was it in 25 minutes.


All in all yes it was a bad night but we will get better, Iv said in my only other post I have seen NA manage first hand and he is a top manager, don't be deceived by all this cliché he spouts he is very very ruthless, he will be more than aware of what is needed and he will address the issues.
 

Hitting the bar and causing the keeper to pull off a fingertip save isn't a chance. What is a chance then?

As for the other chances.......
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blade789 said:
Hi All

Not a frequent poster on this site but just wanted to give my opinion of events.

I though the first half was very very poor, although I will say that I think people are going over the top when saying 'the worst I have ever seen' did you not see the Crewe, Fleetwood games last season, I also remember United not having a single chance when we got beat by Barnsley! Yes we were poor in the first half but you need to break the game up a little bit, apart from the 2 they scored what other chances did they have? they hit the bar from 25 yards, that's not a chance, they had a pop shot from out wide which was palmed out by Howard, again not a chance. United on the other hand had 3 clear cut chances in the first half. I am not defending them but please just put the game into context.


Second half I thought United were the better side by a mile, it makes me laugh that some people around me think that Sheffield United should not be letting the opposition in our half never mind score. Again we have missed 3/4 guilt edge chances to win the game, their 3rd goal summed our luck up a bit, fizzed off Freeman, spun past 2 of our players, players runs on, takes a deflection and nestles in the corner! We have a lot of faults in our side, we lack pace in the right areas and our Tempo is pedestrian at times but I am still confident we will get it right, we have created more chances in the last 2 games then we did under clough all season.

My Player ratings would be as follows (bare in mind everyone starts on a 7)

Howard - 7, Nothing he could do with all 3 goals, good save from the free kick

Mcevely - 6, Feel sorry for him, some of the abuse he got last night was a disgrace, the amount of people that watch football who have not got a clue is beyond me. he is not great but is certainly not as bad as people are sayin

Collins - 8, didn't put a foot wrong all night

Edgar - 6, again didn't really do a lot wrong, I think we thought he was the answer when we saw him against Blackpool (the worst team I have seen at the lane for a long time) but there is a reason why he cannot get into an average championship side

Freeman - 8, I like him, I like his passion I like him going forward

Wollford - 6, Another scapegoat at the moment, actually spend some time to watch him off the ball, he is always looking for it, always working hard.

Baxter - 5, not on it tonight, seemed to be hiding at times

Basham - 6, Cant fault his effort, what type of a midfield player is he tho? He doesn't defend or attack great. He is jo average on the ball as well.

JCR - 7, our main attacking threat all game, needs to be more consistent although given his age and the amount of games he has played its unlikely

Sharp - 7, Played well tonight, worked hard, good movement, he will not keep missing like that, people saying he is not the answer has he not scored 4 in 4?

Sammon - 5, Not the answer, I said this when we signed him, his touch is not good enough with his back to goal.

McNulty - 6, one good run and a poor finish and that was it in 25 minutes.


All in all yes it was a bad night but we will get better, Iv said in my only other post I have seen NA manage first hand and he is a top manager, don't be deceived by all this cliché he spouts he is very very ruthless, he will be more than aware of what is needed and he will address the issues.
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Some of those ratings? I know there is argument for looking at the positives but the only way I could give any outfield player Marks like 7 or 8 would be if we were rating out of 100.

Howard with a 7 out of 10 and Freeman with a 6 out of 10 is about as high as I could possibly go.
 
Blade56 said:
Hitting the bar and causing the keeper to pull off a fingertip save isn't a chance. What is a chance then?

As for the other chances.......
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Copying and pasting the shot count does not prove a thing mate.

You could shoot 10 times from 40 yards and miss all, I could get one on one 3 times and miss, who has had the better chances?

Like I say put the game into context, a chance for me is a clear goal scoring opportunity, we had more of those then Colchester last night.
 
Eh , yes the 1st half was worse than any of those games. I have never seen so many misplaced or telegraphed passes as last nights 1st half and so many players stand off and give easy control of the game to them. I'm not talking about 'get stuck in' , I'm talking about closing the so very obvious space and reacting to where the ball may drop not after.
 
blade789 said:
Copying and pasting the shot count does not prove a thing mate.

You could shoot 10 times from 40 yards and miss all, I could get one on one 3 times and miss, who has had the better chances?

Like I say put the game into context, a chance for me is a clear goal scoring opportunity, we had more of those then Colchester last night.
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You can only shoot if you have a chance. No matter who you wrap it up.
 
My Ratings will be given as...

Howard. 6
Freeman. 5 our best defender on the night gets five.. Says it all
McEveley 4. Better than he was Saturday... Still shyte
Edgar 4. Unconvinced. Worringly one footed
Collins 4. Brought the ball out a couple of times but dragged out of position for two goals

Basham 4.
Baxter 3. (Zero for the first half)
JCR 5.
Woolford 5. Took his goal well.. Shocking first half, I thought he did ok second

Sharp 4. Sorry he's in the side to score goals, missed three siters and two pens.
Sammon 2. Oh dear

Subs:

McNulty 5 one world class run... Then not a lot else
Scougs. Not on long enough to make an impact.
Higdon. Not on long enough to embarrass himself.

Manager. Adkins 4. Is he Wishing he had hung on for a Championship job?
 
I hope Adkins has noticed teams are coming here with a different game plan.
They're not sitting back inviting us on they're starting much more positive ,up tempo employing tactics as them would if they was at home.
Sort it Nigel we've been found out.
 
Lane Ender said:
I hope Adkins has noticed teams are coming here with a different game plan.
They're not sitting back inviting us on they're starting much more positive ,up tempo employing tactics as them would if they was at home.
Sort it Nigel we've been found out.
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no fear for them. Not afraid to attack our soft "spine" even when we are pushing forward.
 
Howard 7

Freeman 6
Collins 6
Edgar 5
McEvely 4 for defending 6 for attacking

JCR 6
Basham 5
Baxter 1 (for not getting sent off)
Woolford 5

Sharp 5 (yes he worked very hard but at the end of the day he's missed 4 sitters and 2 pens!)
Sammon 4
 

The first half was a disgraceful effort from the whole team. Colchester were pressing us high up and we couldn't cope with their pace and desire. What was really evident though was there was not one player standing up and puffing his chest out, McEveley ought to have been doing that but he was just as poor as the rest of them in the first half. At half time we could very easily have been 4-0 down which is disgraceful at home.

However, as you rightly point out the second half was much improved and the fight back was very much on and led by McEveley. I don't think it was a penalty for the foul on him but we got a stroke of luck with it.

Then we had Sharp missing good chances, McNulty missing a good chance which he made for himself, and lots of good build up play into their box but just weren't incisive enough finishing. At 2-2, much like at 1-1 against Bury, we were forcing the issue and looking to go on to win the game. If we'd scored one of the chances and gone 3-2 up I'm confident we'd have seen it out by hitting them on the break and looking to score more.

Had we won last night we would still be right to be very concerned by the performance because the defending was simply atrocious, but it's a game which we could have won on another night with the second half performance. Equally, we could have lost it by half time on another night because we were that bad in the first half.

There is a lot of work to be done, the squad needs freshening up with some younger players IMO, but it isn't the end of the world and I'm glad we are having these problems at the beginning of the season when we can still rectify them, rather than at the end of the season which was the case last season.
 
blade789 said:
I agree but it was not as horrific as people are saying, we had enough chances to win the game which would indicate we were not that bad wouldn't it?
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There is always an overreaction from a few but the first half display was abysmal. Unfortunately creating chances and not putting them away garners no points. It's not an excuse we can use for long.
 
Sean Thornton said:
There is always an overreaction from a few but the first half display was abysmal. Unfortunately creating chances and not putting them away garners no points. It's not an excuse we can use for long.
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I agree, but we will start and convert.
 
blade789 said:
Hi All

Not a frequent poster on this site but just wanted to give my opinion of events.

I though the first half was very very poor, although I will say that I think people are going over the top when saying 'the worst I have ever seen' did you not see the Crewe, Fleetwood games last season, I also remember United not having a single chance when we got beat by Barnsley! Yes we were poor in the first half but you need to break the game up a little bit, apart from the 2 they scored what other chances did they have? they hit the bar from 25 yards, that's not a chance, they had a pop shot from out wide which was palmed out by Howard, again not a chance. United on the other hand had 3 clear cut chances in the first half. I am not defending them but please just put the game into context.


Second half I thought United were the better side by a mile, it makes me laugh that some people around me think that Sheffield United should not be letting the opposition in our half never mind score. Again we have missed 3/4 guilt edge chances to win the game, their 3rd goal summed our luck up a bit, fizzed off Freeman, spun past 2 of our players, players runs on, takes a deflection and nestles in the corner! We have a lot of faults in our side, we lack pace in the right areas and our Tempo is pedestrian at times but I am still confident we will get it right, we have created more chances in the last 2 games then we did under clough all season.

My Player ratings would be as follows (bare in mind everyone starts on a 7)

Howard - 7, Nothing he could do with all 3 goals, good save from the free kick

Mcevely - 6, Feel sorry for him, some of the abuse he got last night was a disgrace, the amount of people that watch football who have not got a clue is beyond me. he is not great but is certainly not as bad as people are sayin

Collins - 8, didn't put a foot wrong all night

Edgar - 6, again didn't really do a lot wrong, I think we thought he was the answer when we saw him against Blackpool (the worst team I have seen at the lane for a long time) but there is a reason why he cannot get into an average championship side

Freeman - 8, I like him, I like his passion I like him going forward

Wollford - 6, Another scapegoat at the moment, actually spend some time to watch him off the ball, he is always looking for it, always working hard.

Baxter - 5, not on it tonight, seemed to be hiding at times

Basham - 6, Cant fault his effort, what type of a midfield player is he tho? He doesn't defend or attack great. He is jo average on the ball as well.

JCR - 7, our main attacking threat all game, needs to be more consistent although given his age and the amount of games he has played its unlikely

Sharp - 7, Played well tonight, worked hard, good movement, he will not keep missing like that, people saying he is not the answer has he not scored 4 in 4?

Sammon - 5, Not the answer, I said this when we signed him, his touch is not good enough with his back to goal.

McNulty - 6, one good run and a poor finish and that was it in 25 minutes.


All in all yes it was a bad night but we will get better, Iv said in my only other post I have seen NA manage first hand and he is a top manager, don't be deceived by all this cliché he spouts he is very very ruthless, he will be more than aware of what is needed and he will address the issues.
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You are definitely a morning person.
 
I don't know how anyone can defend that last night. That is easily the worst first half I've ever seen at the Lane and I was there for the Crewe game. It was like the players didn't actually know what to do, we made it so easy for them. I felt ashamed watching it.
 
blade789 said:
Hi All

Not a frequent poster on this site but just wanted to give my opinion of events.

I though the first half was very very poor, although I will say that I think people are going over the top when saying 'the worst I have ever seen' did you not see the Crewe, Fleetwood games last season, I also remember United not having a single chance when we got beat by Barnsley! Yes we were poor in the first half but you need to break the game up a little bit, apart from the 2 they scored what other chances did they have? they hit the bar from 25 yards, that's not a chance, they had a pop shot from out wide which was palmed out by Howard, again not a chance. United on the other hand had 3 clear cut chances in the first half. I am not defending them but please just put the game into context.


Second half I thought United were the better side by a mile, it makes me laugh that some people around me think that Sheffield United should not be letting the opposition in our half never mind score. Again we have missed 3/4 guilt edge chances to win the game, their 3rd goal summed our luck up a bit, fizzed off Freeman, spun past 2 of our players, players runs on, takes a deflection and nestles in the corner! We have a lot of faults in our side, we lack pace in the right areas and our Tempo is pedestrian at times but I am still confident we will get it right, we have created more chances in the last 2 games then we did under clough all season.

My Player ratings would be as follows (bare in mind everyone starts on a 7)

Howard - 7, Nothing he could do with all 3 goals, good save from the free kick

Mcevely - 6, Feel sorry for him, some of the abuse he got last night was a disgrace, the amount of people that watch football who have not got a clue is beyond me. he is not great but is certainly not as bad as people are sayin

Collins - 8, didn't put a foot wrong all night

Edgar - 6, again didn't really do a lot wrong, I think we thought he was the answer when we saw him against Blackpool (the worst team I have seen at the lane for a long time) but there is a reason why he cannot get into an average championship side

Freeman - 8, I like him, I like his passion I like him going forward

Wollford - 6, Another scapegoat at the moment, actually spend some time to watch him off the ball, he is always looking for it, always working hard.

Baxter - 5, not on it tonight, seemed to be hiding at times

Basham - 6, Cant fault his effort, what type of a midfield player is he tho? He doesn't defend or attack great. He is jo average on the ball as well.

JCR - 7, our main attacking threat all game, needs to be more consistent although given his age and the amount of games he has played its unlikely

Sharp - 7, Played well tonight, worked hard, good movement, he will not keep missing like that, people saying he is not the answer has he not scored 4 in 4?

Sammon - 5, Not the answer, I said this when we signed him, his touch is not good enough with his back to goal.

McNulty - 6, one good run and a poor finish and that was it in 25 minutes.


All in all yes it was a bad night but we will get better, Iv said in my only other post I have seen NA manage first hand and he is a top manager, don't be deceived by all this cliché he spouts he is very very ruthless, he will be more than aware of what is needed and he will address the issues.
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you're scored make no sense at all (Collins, Edgar and McEveley all supposingly not doing much wrong (add in Woolford to that too and Sharp) yet you have scored Woolford, Edgar and McEveley as a 6, Sharp as a 7 and Collins as an 8...

just to pull you up on a couple of obvious things....

Collins... not put a foot wrong... really... so when he dithered on the ball in the second half (not once but twice) that was fine... when he passed to their players that was fine... when he left a player unmarked (square ball came in from the right) to an UNMARKED man on the edge of the box... with only a poor touch allowing for the defence to get back....

Sharp played well...really.... missed 3 chances that I can remember that most strikers in this division would score let alone a supposed "Championship class striker" (first half he was one on one with the keeper (I personally thought he was off side but the flag stayed down) second half he was put though a couple of times (once instead of hitting it first time with only the keeper to beat he took a touch... then another... then another... then another.. and by this time he was square on goal with no angle to shoot (he was facing the JSS) and was unsuprising that he skewed it wide...) his first touch was awful, and then you have him missing 2 penalties from the 3 he took (granted 1 was due to the keeper being way off his line..) but he had little excuse for the third...
 
>>I though the first half was very very poor, although I will say that I think people are going over the top when saying 'the worst I have ever seen'
i've been thinking about this all night and i stand by this comment.. i remember some of the Heath games being gash but i've erased them from my memory. lets settle on 'heathesque'.. that is bad enough.. #
jcr best player?? you need to send me some of your medication ;)
 
zablade said:
My Ratings will be given as...

Howard. 6
Freeman. 5 our best defender on the night gets five.. Says it all
McEveley 4. Better than he was Saturday... Still shyte
Edgar 4. Unconvinced. Worringly one footed
Collins 4. Brought the ball out a couple of times but dragged out of position for two goals

Basham 4.
Baxter 3. (Zero for the first half)
JCR 5.
Woolford 5. Took his goal well.. Shocking first half, I thought he did ok second

Sharp 4. Sorry he's in the side to score goals, missed three siters and two pens.
Sammon 2. Oh dear

Subs:

McNulty 5 one world class run... Then not a lot else
Scougs. Not on long enough to make an impact.
Higdon. Not on long enough to embarrass himself.

Manager. Adkins 4. Is he Wishing he had hung on for a Championship job?
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close .. i'd give jcr a 4 and billy a 5
 

blade789 said:
Hi All

Not a frequent poster on this site but just wanted to give my opinion of events.

I though the first half was very very poor, although I will say that I think people are going over the top when saying 'the worst I have ever seen' did you not see the Crewe, Fleetwood games last season, I also remember United not having a single chance when we got beat by Barnsley! Yes we were poor in the first half but you need to break the game up a little bit, apart from the 2 they scored what other chances did they have? they hit the bar from 25 yards, that's not a chance, they had a pop shot from out wide which was palmed out by Howard, again not a chance. United on the other hand had 3 clear cut chances in the first half. I am not defending them but please just put the game into context.


Second half I thought United were the better side by a mile, it makes me laugh that some people around me think that Sheffield United should not be letting the opposition in our half never mind score. Again we have missed 3/4 guilt edge chances to win the game, their 3rd goal summed our luck up a bit, fizzed off Freeman, spun past 2 of our players, players runs on, takes a deflection and nestles in the corner! We have a lot of faults in our side, we lack pace in the right areas and our Tempo is pedestrian at times but I am still confident we will get it right, we have created more chances in the last 2 games then we did under clough all season.

My Player ratings would be as follows (bare in mind everyone starts on a 7)

Howard - 7, Nothing he could do with all 3 goals, good save from the free kick

Mcevely - 6, Feel sorry for him, some of the abuse he got last night was a disgrace, the amount of people that watch football who have not got a clue is beyond me. he is not great but is certainly not as bad as people are sayin

Collins - 8, didn't put a foot wrong all night

Edgar - 6, again didn't really do a lot wrong, I think we thought he was the answer when we saw him against Blackpool (the worst team I have seen at the lane for a long time) but there is a reason why he cannot get into an average championship side

Freeman - 8, I like him, I like his passion I like him going forward

Wollford - 6, Another scapegoat at the moment, actually spend some time to watch him off the ball, he is always looking for it, always working hard.

Baxter - 5, not on it tonight, seemed to be hiding at times

Basham - 6, Cant fault his effort, what type of a midfield player is he tho? He doesn't defend or attack great. He is jo average on the ball as well.

JCR - 7, our main attacking threat all game, needs to be more consistent although given his age and the amount of games he has played its unlikely

Sharp - 7, Played well tonight, worked hard, good movement, he will not keep missing like that, people saying he is not the answer has he not scored 4 in 4?

Sammon - 5, Not the answer, I said this when we signed him, his touch is not good enough with his back to goal.

McNulty - 6, one good run and a poor finish and that was it in 25 minutes.


All in all yes it was a bad night but we will get better, Iv said in my only other post I have seen NA manage first hand and he is a top manager, don't be deceived by all this cliché he spouts he is very very ruthless, he will be more than aware of what is needed and he will address the issues.
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To describe Blackpool as the worst side seen at the Lane for a long time is way off the mark, seen far worse.
 
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