Outgoing? Kieron Freeman

[Ricky]

Wouldn't be massively against something like this but we can't be doing with having to replace Freeman at this stage, we have enough players to sign as it is.

 

[Yewsman]

I have to disagree with you on your first point. I think we do need to sell to be able to buy. McCabe made reference to the need for us to get greater investment several weeks ago. Wilder has said that he is working with limited funds. There has been no confirmation whatsoever that Wilder is getting a share of the add ins from the sale of Walker - something he said he was going to ask for - he's not said any more about that has he? So I think you can assume the answer is no.

On top of that we have big earners like Brayford on the books and I think a lot is riding on being able to move him on. That will free up a significant amount of wages. I suspect when Brayford goes we will go straight in and seal the deal for Lenihan. I think that's a number one priority for us.

I think any other deals on top of that will most likely be loans.

When you are negotiating to get a player it is not a great tactic to let everyone know you have got a £5mill kitty to spend from sell on fees. I suspect that CW knows that Blackburn probably need to sell to get cash in and as the deadline approaches their options become more limited so the price comes down. CW knows what he is doing when it comes to spending the owners money.

 

[Champagneblade]

Wouldn't be massively against something like this but we can't be doing with having to replace Freeman at this stage, we have enough players to sign as it is.

Agree. Unless there was a swap that involved solving one of our other areas. I'd be relictant to end the window with an only just fit Baldock, a young lad with one league cup appearance amd a bloke on high wages we've openly been trying to offload.

Then again. It all depends what money you're talking.

Certainly though in terms of attacking play, Freeman brings a lot to the table in our 3-5-2.

Only plus might be if you definitely got Lenihan, assuming he's any good. You'd get another player who can play centre half and it would open up RWB to Basham where he's also done well in the past.

 

[SwissBlade]

When you are negotiating to get a player it is not a great tactic to let everyone know you have got a £5mill kitty to spend from sell on fees. I suspect that CW knows that Blackburn probably need to sell to get cash in and as the deadline approaches their options become more limited so the price comes down. CW knows what he is doing when it comes to spending the owners money.

Correct and I think we bought some players in at the end of the window last year -Lavery and Clarke wasn't it?

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

For me, it would have to be for big money. Losing Freeman would weaken the side, especially against the less good sides in the Championship. I thought he was good yesterday, and a last-minute sale leaves us improvising, relying on players with injuries, etc. Without a like-for-like replacement, I don't see this as a good move.

 

[mancunianblade]

I like Freeman but PL wingers would have a Birthday playing against him. Think we would actually be daft to turn down any significant offer for him just signed a new contract so in the driving seat on this one..Baldock and Brayford equal if not better.

Love to see Cloughs face when Brayford deal falls through due to us moving on Freeman instead

 

[DronnieBlade]

Depends on fee.

Selling to a club outside PL would be looking at circa £1m.

Cos it's a PL club allegedly interested, we should be looking for no less than £3m, at which point, Wilder may decide he can utilise these funds on strengthening the squad.

I've always maintained Baldock will ultimately nail down this position in any event. Just not sure how close he is to being available for selection after injury.

Not surprised in the interest in Freeman. Good player who would be a loss. But sometimes you have to take a view on these things. The bigger picture.

UTB

 

[gavtheblade]

He's not been on form so far this season.

 

[finlaytheblade]

I have to disagree with you on your first point. I think we do need to sell to be able to buy. McCabe made reference to the need for us to get greater investment several weeks ago. Wilder has said that he is working with limited funds. There has been no confirmation whatsoever that Wilder is getting a share of the add ins from the sale of Walker - something he said he was going to ask for - he's not said any more about that has he? So I think you can assume the answer is no.

On top of that we have big earners like Brayford on the books and I think a lot is riding on being able to move him on. That will free up a significant amount of wages. I suspect when Brayford goes we will go straight in and seal the deal for Lenihan. I think that's a number one priority for us.

I think any other deals on top of that will most likely be loans.

Wilder is not going to come out and say he has 5million to spend is he.we have funds to spend why do fans keep on about this it is obviously a limited amount and compared to the big hitters probably small fry,let Wilder get on with his job.
I keep repeating this and the same old chestnut keeps being regurgitated,

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Wouldn't be massively against something like this but we can't be doing with having to replace Freeman at this stage, we have enough players to sign as it is.

Agree on replacing players. We have failed for the last however many weeks to get any business done despite being desperate to do so - seems unlikely we could just bring In a replacement instantly.

Don't know why people are desperate to move him on.

Brayford is basically gone. Baldocks injury seems to be a slower one than expected and he's not going to have had any preseason. Is he even training fully yet?

That leaves us without a recognised right back.

We can't move basham out there because hat would leave us unable to field the 3 CB's needed and it's also not bashams best position.

Despite everything our squad is paper think in key areas atm.

 

[loyalblade95]

Why would we sell him anyway he's just signed a new 3 year contract and stated that he wants to stay here

 

[Bartleby]

I'd prefer to keep him, I think he'll adapt to this division and was showing signs of that yesterday, albeit Barnsley were a bit poor. Certainly wouldn't want to be relying on Brayford as his replacement given we've already been told he's halfway to Burton. We improved on that side when Freeman came in for Brayford last season.

 

[Blade58]

Depends on fee.

Selling to a club outside PL would be looking at circa £1m.

Cos it's a PL club allegedly interested, we should be looking for no less than £3m, at which point, Wilder may decide he can utilise these funds on strengthening the squad.

I've always maintained Baldock will ultimately nail down this position in any event. Just not sure how close he is to being available for selection after injury.

Not surprised in the interest in Freeman. Good player who would be a loss. But sometimes you have to take a view on these things. The bigger picture.

UTB

Personally for me, it doesn't just depend on the fee, but also the availability of a suitable replacement.

Our squad shortens by the day with Moore and Baldock injured. Beard, Hanson and potentially Brooks on the way out. CW maintains the squad doesn't have enough cover as it is and we are struggling currently to strengthen anyway. We need to be very careful and should only relinquish a first team player on the basis we have a cast iron replacement and that is regardless of transfer fee

Remember, the next available opening isn't while Jan and we need to have the strongest possible squad available to see us through to at least that time

 

[adebo]

We need 2 players in every position to maintain our championship status. Freeman is integral to how our team functions. People talk about him being replaceable we don't know if baldock fits the system as well. Stevens is an ideal upgrade on Lafferty. if baldock is for freeman then ok but there are questions about baldock he looked great at stocksbridge. How durable is baldock and will he get freeman's goals? At 3 mill it would be good business credit has to go to united for getting him on that new contract!

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

Yeah fantastic, let's sell last season's 2nd highest goal scorer and try to replace him when we have a variety of other essential places to fill where deals seem to have failed or stalled.

 

[Pinchy]

We've had bids in for a number of players, we've a budget to stick to but we certainly don't have to sell to buy.

We have bids to the tune of £5m or thereabouts currently on various club's tables...

It doesn't suit the agenda, though. So it's a publicity stunt.

 

[Dellas Cowboys]

Here's the article uploaded to Twitter

 

[DronnieBlade]

Personally for me, it doesn't just depend on the fee, but also the availability of a suitable replacement.

Our squad shortens by the day with Moore and Baldock injured. Beard, Hanson and potentially Brooks on the way out. CW maintains the squad doesn't have enough cover as it is and we are struggling currently to strengthen anyway. We need to be very careful and should only relinquish a first team player on the basis we have a cast iron replacement and that is regardless of transfer fee

Remember, the next available opening isn't while Jan and we need to have the strongest possible squad available to see us through to at least that time

All admirable and correct.

But don't dismiss the players desire to move (no doubt fuelled by a massive wage increase) and Wilders clear refusal to not want players who's heart is elsewhere anywhere near the first team.

I doubt Wilder is daft enough to sanction any move for Freeman without being comfortable with a replacement being lined up / being happy with existing cover.

UTB

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

CW has stated he wants two players of standing for each position. Who else apart from Baldock is there for right wing back ?

Bash. CB
Brayford definitely going
New player ... why when Freeman here on long deal and supposedly happy.

Non starter this one imo.

 

[Higgo's Belly]

Unbelievable, that anyone would think that selling Freeman would be a good move. Second highest scorer last season and one of the most improved players at the club. He is one of the main reasons why we are even in this division, with some of the vital goals he scored last season. We've played four games and yes he's looked off the pace for the first three, however like Fleck, I thought he was much better yesterday. Really do think he deserves a chance to see if he can adapt to this level and hope that CW will persevere with him.

 

[SteveBlade]

No, let's not. One of our best players last season, and offers a lot going forward.

Let's not even entertain the thought of Basham playing right back.

Baldock is currently a crock.

Brayford is fucking off, and even if he didn't...

Let's not.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Personally for me, it doesn't just depend on the fee, but also the availability of a suitable replacement.

Our squad shortens by the day with Moore and Baldock injured. Beard, Hanson and potentially Brooks on the way out.

Remember, the next available opening isn't while Jan and we need to have the strongest possible squad available to see us through to at least that time

Haven't we signed cover for Moore?
Where's Brooks going !?!?!
Isn't the idea of a "squad" that you have cover for injuries is Baldock : Freeman / Freeman : Baldock
Perhaps there'll be a 'volte face 're Brayford IF Freeman goes ?

 

[Davalon]

We have bids to the tune of £5m or thereabouts currently on various club's tables...

It doesn't suit the agenda, though. So it's a publicity stunt.

But you're being disingenuous yourself with that because if one of those bids is accepted for a certain player, then another bid will be rescinded as the player won't be required.

And if anyone really believes 2.4 million will buy Coady in today's market and Wolves current situation, then the next bid could be for me.

 

[Blade58]

Haven't we signed cover for Moore?
Where's Brooks going !?!?!
Isn't the idea of a "squad" that you have cover for injuries is Baldock : Freeman / Freeman : Baldock
Perhaps there'll be a 'volte face 're Brayford IF Freeman goes ?

Cover for Moore, yes. Something that had been going on for some weeks prior to Moore's injury. However, not so easy to bring players in as deadline day draws ever closer
Brooks, true going nowhere today, but would anyone seriously write off his departure given McCabe's recent statement and reluctance to even say the club will do their utmost to tie him down to a long term deal
Yes, CW states two players for each position. Currently, with the beard in talks with Burton we don't have cover for RB because Baldock is recovering from injury and working his way back into contention
Only my opinion but the beard's time at Bramall Lane is over. The decision has been made and if CW can get him off the wage bill he's gone.

 

[madeinsheffield]

We'll struggle to get £1m for the beard, but if udders offered 3 times that for freeman it would make more sense to sell and put that towards either a box to box midfielder or pacy winger.

Billy proved yet again if we get balls into the box he will score, give him supply and the goals will come

 

[finlaytheblade]

Unbelievable, that anyone would think that selling Freeman would be a good move. Second highest scorer last season and one of the most improved players at the club. He is one of the main reasons why we are even in this division, with some of the vital goals he scored last season. We've played four games and yes he's looked off the pace for the first three, however like Fleck, I thought he was much better yesterday. Really do think he deserves a chance to see if he can adapt to this level and hope that CW will persevere with him.

He had a great scoring record last season but that was a one off it won't happen again.Brown had a season like that but couldn't repeat it.
If we let him go we obviously feel he is replaceable.He's not the greatest defender so maybe wilder feels he can be replaced.
Baldock is about fit again and Brayford is still here.Swap for Joe Lolly wouldn't be a bad deal for us.
Whatever ! Freeman would want the chance to play in the Prem and you couldn't blame him for that.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

CW has stated he wants two players of standing for each position. Who else apart from Baldock is there for right wing back ?

Bash. CB
Brayford definitely going
New player ... why when Freeman here on long deal and supposedly happy.

Non starter this one imo.

OT Worksop, did you have a good day Friday? Given the forecast couldn't have asked for anything better with rain holding off until 7.30!

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

This would be a bad idea. He will find his feet in the Championship at some point and despite what some people are saying he hasn't done too badly this season. He's one of a few players trying to improve.

He's an integral part of the group and we need to maintain competition in that position with him and Baldock. It's a no from me and I can't see this being true anyway, rather a big punt by Hudderfield given Freeman has just come up from League One.

 

[sheffielder]

Personally I thought he had a good game yesterday although for some reason basham and freeman always seem to have a mistake in them when overplaying it out of the back. Hope that won't come back to haunt us.

The decision is with the player. If Huddersfield want him he will more than double his wage and we won't be able to match it. It really is that simple

 

[Blade58]

We'll struggle to get £1m for the beard, but if udders offered 3 times that for freeman it would make more sense to sell and put that towards either a box to box midfielder or pacy winger.

Billy proved yet again if we get balls into the box he will score, give him supply and the goals will come

Fingers crossed he doesn't get injured cos at the minute he looks like the only striker capable of scoring

We need another striker imo and one that has to be capable in this division

Ched might do it, but currently looks off the pace