Kieffer Moore…

[Broomhall Blade]

All about opinions obviously but 2nd half from my POV he was excellent. Work rate off the scale some really good knock ons. So I totally disagree with you. Massive upgrade on McB he’s coming good - think he suits us completely.

Give over at least 3 times he was through and made the wrong decision/pass or took too long.
I hate singling out players but he really needs to step up, we can't keep relying on Midfielders to keep scoring for us if we are serious about top 2.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

He's deceptively quick. I hadn't ever appreciated it watching him for opposition or on TV, but when he hits his stride he can really shift.
He's strong too and uses his body weight effectively to knock defenders off the ball.
He can pick a pass and his movement is decent.

 

[Slim Man]

I just don’t think he’s that good. How long before ‘he’s learning his role’ turns into ‘he’s just a bad decision maker’?

He won’t get the goals we need to have us finishing in the top 6, so the defence better be pretty fucking good.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

He's deceptively quick. I hadn't ever appreciated it watching him for opposition or on TV, but when he hits his stride he can really shift.
He's strong too and uses his body weight effectively to knock defenders off the ball.
He can pick a pass and his movement is decent.

He's deceptively quick
He can pick a pass
I take it you didn't go today.

 

[s20Blade]

Must he lacking confidence or something because he looks like a youth academy player that just isn't good enough, he's done it enough at this level to know something is not right and he can't be this bad.

 

[Keen Blade]

He's 32 and has scored plenty over a long career , so I don't understand why he is so indecisive on the ball in the final third.
But it's definitely not clicking for him.
I honestly think we need to give Campbell a chance to show us what he can do , even if only 45 minutes.

 

[Stretch]

A lot seem to be getting on Moore's back, but a player ploughs a lonely furrow as a single CF, and he is doing a decent job leading the line imo.

He is a constant physical menace to defenders, and links the play well. He also never stops grafting.

On the down side he has wasted 3 or 4 gilt edge chances to score (including the missed penalty) due to poor decision making. However, he really isn't alone in that. Neither O'Hare, Brooks or Rak-Sakyi seem to know what to do once they get into the penalty area, and we seem to be trying to walk the ball in, or seem determined to pick out an opposition player with the final pass.

For some reason, the general attacking play isn't really clicking, but we are getting away with it at the moment, largely down to a our solid defence, a phenomenal workrate across the team, Hamer's brilliance and just occasionally being very clinical on the counter attack.

Once it does (hopefully) click up front, I can see us dishing out a few hidings. As for Moore, I called 12 goals at the start of the season, which would be fine along with a few assists, and I am sticking to that.

 

[Lupa The Noa]

All about opinions obviously but 2nd half from my POV he was excellent. Work rate off the scale some really good knock ons. So I totally disagree with you. Massive upgrade on McB he’s coming good - think he suits us completely.

Whether you liked or hated McMarmite, he tended to look knackered after 30 mins, and Moore just looks like he keeps himself sharper and fitter.

 

[wavy-blade]

He's deceptively quick
He can pick a pass
I take it you didn't go today.

Oh look the “not a wilder fan didn’t want him back “brigade making more negative comments about an unbeaten team ! Ffs

Moore made the free kick leading to the goal by running back too the half way chasing a player and making a tackle and winning the ball Moores good enough for me , he’s not prolific but he puts the effort in and he’s up front on his own !!

 

[wavy-blade]

He's 32 and has scored plenty over a long career , so I don't understand why he is so indecisive on the ball in the final third.
But it's definitely not clicking for him.
I honestly think we need to give Campbell a chance to show us what he can do , even if only 45 minutes.

Campbells a weird one , I have only seen him once and he really looked lost , he just can’t be impressing in training as Brewster is coming before him ??

 

[Houston_Blade]

He was bobbar first half but then led the line well 2nd half. Unfortunately he’s going to be flogged to death in the absence of credible replacements.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

I rate Moore but we really can't rely on him every game for 90+ minutes

 

[SGBlade]

Warmed to Mcburnie in the end but he scored 26 goals in 146 games. Not scored for Las Palmas yet.

Was either injured/suspended and seemed to need 3 or 4 games to get going.

Gave fouls away consistently and always looked in danger of being sent off.

Kieffer Moore looks like an effective player who will be available more. Hope the fans stay with him.

Yeah I think there’s a bit of revisionism going on re McB. I loved him, especially in the last promo season, but there’s no way he’s as effective as a loan striker as Moore is being. It rarely bounces off Moore and his control is excellent, so he seldom gives defenders an easy foot in. He knows how to use his strength, so largely avoids giving away meaningless fouls. All these things were issues with McB.

That said, I’d love to be able to bring Oli on for Moore after 65 mins when the defenders are tired. Or even for one of the wide forwards and have McB and Moore on at the same time - we’d have been brutal from set pieces.

Moore is a fantastic loan striker at this level. The issues are that we have no back up for him at all, and we will become predictable in-match if we can’t flex our tactics (eg by going to two up top, or by using a ‘false 9’), especially against the top teams, none of which we have faced yet.

 

[SRA76]

Swear when I said he’s a poor man’s mcburnie people on here slated me. I’ll repeat it. He’s bang fucking average and that’s been very kind to lad

 

[Bladezz]

Another fantastic team performance from the big man. Didn’t score a goal but his all round game and work rate is exceptional. A great team player with another good performance. Well done big lad.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I think not having a striker with better footwork and mobility has already cost us at least 2 goals this season

It was a bizarre mistake not to recruit another CF

 

[cahill]

A lot seem to be getting on Moore's back, but a player ploughs a lonely furrow as a single CF, and he is doing a decent job leading the line imo.

He is a constant physical menace to defenders, and links the play well. He also never stops grafting.

On the down side he has wasted 3 or 4 gilt edge chances to score (including the missed penalty) due to poor decision making. However, he really isn't alone in that. Neither O'Hare, Brooks or Rak-Sakyi seem to know what to do once they get into the penalty area, and we seem to be trying to walk the ball in, or seem determined to pick out an opposition player with the final pass.

For some reason, the general attacking play isn't really clicking, but we are getting away with it at the moment, largely down to a our solid defence, a phenomenal workrate across the team, Hamer's brilliance and just occasionally being very clinical on the counter attack.

Once it does (hopefully) click up front, I can see us dishing out a few hidings. As for Moore, I called 12 goals at the start of the season, which would be fine along with a few assists, and I am sticking to that.

Agreed plenty focussing on his negatives but ignoring positives. Imposing presence and does plenty of work, every player makes bad decisions. And as the ex centre forward of St Dominic’s in 1965 I concur that CF is a lonely furrow. I did however score 4 away at Carlton.
Every dog has its day.

He’s part of a winning formula, and ….ahem…leave it to Chris…never doubted him

 

[bladesmanluke]

I think it's possible to appreciate what Moore brings to the team whilst acknowledging he needs to do better with decision making at key moments. Reckon he's more frustrated than anyone. Stick with him and he's gonna be a huge player for us

 

[Melbourne Blade]

I thought he was good yesterday. A constant menace. It's not his fault we're playing him as a sole forward after all but his chasing down, strength and harassing opposition defenders is first class.

I'm wondering if wilder may decide to drop o'hare as a starter in favour of Campbell once he's fully match fit?

 

[CaptainMorgans]

He's deceptively quick
He can pick a pass
I take it you didn't go today.

You assume wrong.

 

[CrookesBlade]

I think it's possible to appreciate what Moore brings to the team whilst acknowledging he needs to do better with decision making at key moments. Reckon he's more frustrated than anyone. Stick with him and he's gonna be a huge player for us

My view is Wilder will be very happy with what he’s had from Moore so far. Seems to me that his brief is to drop deep to win the ball and bring others in to play. I liked McBurnie but Moore is much cleverer, buys fouls rather than needlessly giving them away.

Needs to be more selfish and single minded in front of goal but it will come as the team clicks.

 

[finlaytheblade]

He's deceptively quick. I hadn't ever appreciated it watching him for opposition or on TV, but when he hits his stride he can really shift.
He's strong too and uses his body weight effectively to knock defenders off the ball.
He can pick a pass and his movement is decent.

Not getting the best from him! It's clear he's not the best finisher and often makes the wrong decision.
He needs someone closer to him to make the most of the problems he creates for the opposition,O'hare seems to be the one charged with being that player I'm not sure he is the best player for that roll ! he's better attacking from a deeper position.
Brewster maybe is better suited to support Moore.
No doubt we will not get the best from Moore without better support! he puts a shift in ! Just needs someone to get closer too him.

 

[Pintor75]

I think we need two upfront then we'd see the best of Moore, but like the last few years we haven't a proven second striker, not since Billy left makes me wonder what Lester does in training with these guys, maybe a better attacking coach wouldn't ho amiss

 

[metalblade]

A lot seem to be getting on Moore's back, but a player ploughs a lonely furrow as a single CF, and he is doing a decent job leading the line imo.

He is a constant physical menace to defenders, and links the play well. He also never stops grafting.

On the down side he has wasted 3 or 4 gilt edge chances to score (including the missed penalty) due to poor decision making. However, he really isn't alone in that. Neither O'Hare, Brooks or Rak-Sakyi seem to know what to do once they get into the penalty area, and we seem to be trying to walk the ball in, or seem determined to pick out an opposition player with the final pass.

For some reason, the general attacking play isn't really clicking, but we are getting away with it at the moment, largely down to a our solid defence, a phenomenal workrate across the team, Hamer's brilliance and just occasionally being very clinical on the counter attack.

Once it does (hopefully) click up front, I can see us dishing out a few hidings. As for Moore, I called 12 goals at the start of the season, which would be fine along with a few assists, and I am sticking to that.

I'd agree with that there are a few players who dither with chances rather than just putting a boot through it and seeing what happens Moore isn't the only one that has taken too long or made the wrong choice with chances. I'm sure we will get better and be more clinical.

 

[bornablade]

12 months ago this weekend saw us ship 8 goals at home. Yesterday, with the chances we carved out we could realistically scored 8 ourselves.

I'm not sure what Jack Lester is doing during the week with our strikers but by the time match day comes around we should be far more potent than we are currently showing.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Oh look the “not a wilder fan didn’t want him back “brigade making more negative comments about an unbeaten team ! Ffs

Moore made the free kick leading to the goal by running back too the half way chasing a player and making a tackle and winning the ball Moores good enough for me , he’s not prolific but he puts the effort in and he’s up front on his own !!

What's the "not a Wilder fan" got to do with what I have said ?
I am not disputing that he doesn't put a shift in, its the fact he is our main Striker that doesn't get goals.
One goal in 6 games is not a good return for a striker, especially when we have dominated alot of these games, and its not like we are not creating chances for him.
We can not keep relying on our midfield to get us goals, this is where we will come unstuck if we are serious about automatic, especially if God forbid Hamer gets injured.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

You assume wrong.

Then I can only assume you are one of those fans who keep getting up to go to the toilet, too have missed the 3 times he made the wrong pass or took too long to make the pass when put through.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

A lot seem to be getting on Moore's back, but a player ploughs a lonely furrow as a single CF, and he is doing a decent job leading the line imo.

He is a constant physical menace to defenders, and links the play well. He also never stops grafting.

On the down side he has wasted 3 or 4 gilt edge chances to score (including the missed penalty) due to poor decision making. However, he really isn't alone in that. Neither O'Hare, Brooks or Rak-Sakyi seem to know what to do once they get into the penalty area, and we seem to be trying to walk the ball in, or seem determined to pick out an opposition player with the final pass.

For some reason, the general attacking play isn't really clicking, but we are getting away with it at the moment, largely down to a our solid defence, a phenomenal workrate across the team, Hamer's brilliance and just occasionally being very clinical on the counter attack.

Once it does (hopefully) click up front, I can see us dishing out a few hidings. As for Moore, I called 12 goals at the start of the season, which would be fine along with a few assists, and I am sticking to that.

I agree with most of that.
And other players do need to make better decisions, we also need to improve our corners which at the minute we don't look like scoring from.
I am not criticising Moores effort it's is the fact he just never looks like scoring that’s concerning me especially when we are creating chances for him.

 

[Snowflake]

Thought he had a good game, held the ball up and brought others into play, not scoring but with his role in the team as lone striker what do you expect? Ran his socks off closing down

I agree he does a lot of good work, but his appreciation of what to do when he has the ball in front of him is poor.
In the last few matches he could have scored or set up others to score if he had made the right choices.
He looks to me as if a more direct striker would benefit from playing with him, but that would change the shape of the team.

 

[utd4ever]

Strikers graveyard under Wilder. Not having a go at Wilder but his tactic surely uses the one up front as a foil for our attacking midfielders/Defenders.