Kevin McCabe on David Brooks

[ljk]

I worry that he's likely to go, and I can't help but doubt that McCabe will drive that much of a hard bargain. That said, credit where it's due for the clauses in previous deals that we've capitalised from recently.

I personally don't trust a word that comes out of Kevin McCabe's mouth, though. Just listening to the way he chooses to articulate and carry himself makes me uneasy - a perfect example being describing Chris Wilder as "a lucky boy". Deeply patronising and, furthermore, hypocritical, coming from a man who has absolutely no right to claim that he's performed well in his job as chairman of the club. Instead of flexing his muscles in such a cringeworthy way, he might be better advised to use his time to reflect on some of the decisions he's made and sanctioned since taking the role.

 

[Slim Man]

Bottom line, McCabe should keep his gob shut and try not to hang a 'for sale' sign round the young uns shoulders.

That's the vibe I'm getting from this. And it's fucked me off enormously.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

We never get a fair price.

Jordan Slew?

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Jordan Slew?

Though I guess that wasn't fair. To Blackburn.

 

[Slim Man]

Jordan Slew?

Kyle Walker, Kyle Naughton, the 3 we sold last year who are now worth substantially more?

 

[Blade58]

“In many ways [promotion has eased pressure of selling youngsters]. But the truth is until you are back in the Premier League, if a Premier League club comes along and wants one of your players... if someone can give me the answer of how you keep them. I think most supporters realise that our desire is not to sell a David Brooks - obviously a youngster with immense talent - or a Dominic Calvert-Lewin. But when the big dog comes knocking...”

www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united/danny-hall-sheffield-united-s-david-brooks-is-a-young-man-of-few-words-but-immense-potential-1-8658586

Whether that is the reality or not I don't know, but what I do know is that reading that is so fkin deflating

I have repeatedly said that when the big clubs come calling it's game over, it just irks me when our owner actually says it without at least explaining the process he goes through as an owner to convince the said player to stay. No mention of anything positive about the fact we are on the up. That we have a top manager. That said young player, if he continues to improve has more chance of playing in the Championship than at a Prem club. That we would offer said player a competitive salary despite his age. Nothing, not a glimmer. It's almost as if he wants to sell the player, if you get my drift and of course keeping that talented player ought to mean his stock rises.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Kyle Walker, Kyle Naughton, the 3 we sold last year who are now worth substantially more?

You said we never get a fair price. I gave you an example.

 

[WalkelyFan]

I understand it's difficult to stand in a player's way if one of the big boys comes knocking, even if it would be better for their development to stay with us a bit longer. The one thing I can't get my head round is when we undervalue our talent.

Yes we mugged off a few teams with the likes of Jordan Slew, but if Ademola Lookman can be sold for £11 million, i'd expect nothing less than that for Brooks who if anything has been the more impressive player at least on the International stage. Sadly I think £3 million would be pushing it which is peanuts in today's market.

Lookman went for £7.5 million RISING to £11 million over 4.5 years. He had 45+ league appearances and around 20 England appearances. A fair bit more than Brooksy. Like many others I saw his potential as soon as I saw him a couple of years ago now and would love to see a midfield based on Whiteman/Reed/Brooks.
I feel everyone's pain over Brooksbut the club cannot stick a £30 million price tag on him as some are suggesting. They would have to pay commensurate wages. That's what Bosman was about.

I am not sure about a release clause. PSG has offered to buy out the release clause of Neymar at Barcelona at around €200 million so clearly that might not be an obstruction.

 

[Slim Man]

You said we never get a fair price. I gave you an example.

1 in 6? Good record.

 

[Bert]

Kyle Walker, Kyle Naughton, the 3 we sold last year who are now worth substantially more?

Wayne Quinn, Jacob Mellis, Lee Morris.

 

[McGrath]

They let him go on THEIR terms, for £75 fucking million!!
Comparing what we'll get for Brooks and what they did for Lukaku is absurd. It'd be like throwing a deckchair off the Titanic.

He wanted to leave last year and he got a big fuck off tablet.

Even if Brooks left on a bosman we'd get compo.

Calm down... relax.... They bought him at the value the market dictated. Everton couldn't stop it happening because he made ir clear he wanted to leave.

The same might happen with Brooks. But let's remember it's early days with the lad. Excitement seems to be reaching Di Girilamo levels and we know what happened there!

 

[WalkelyFan]

Exactly...... I appreciate what he's saying (though did he really need to say it? ..... again?) but can we at least make a club pay an inflated price based on potential? Last season was a great example. Everton pay us 1m for DCL when at around the same time Charlton squeeze 7m out of them for the lad Lookman. 7 times the value for just a handful of appearances more? This is the one area where Kev irritates me when he gives in far too easily at times. Just like other clubs know we have the Maguire/Walker money we all know the premier league is awash with cash. Premier league potential should start coming with a premier league price tag

A few appearances? 45 league games and around 20 England appearances.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

1 in 6? Good record.

I'd say over the years, since the early 90s I'd say it was 50/50. Unfortunately for us it's usually the high profile ones that fall in the wrong 50.

 

[Slim Man]

Wayne Quinn, Jacob Mellis, Lee Morris.

Harry Maguire, Jamie Murphy, James Beattie, Matt Lowton

We could go on forever. There's a lot more we've been done on then done well.

 

[Woodwardfan]

I can, I said we'd have accepted the first offer.

DCL was a regular for Everton last year.
Ramsdale after a few games could be worth a shit tonne of money - Pickford has just gone for 30 mil.
Adams has just been subject of a rejected bid of 5mil from Fulham.

We always get fucked over in terms of young talent. All are worth more now than we sold them for last year. Anything above a million and we seem to consider it a good deal.

If we sold Brooks we'd sell him for miles under his worth cos we're behind the curve when it comes to the modern day market.

The other perspective is that Wilder would not have picked any of those players in his first team last season and probably not this season either. Brooks will get cameos for a few months. In the Malaga game he was missing on the press and when he dropped deeper later in the game he gave the ball away badly to give them their best chance.

The two big dynamics here are: 1. the lad's wages 2. first team football.

A big club can afford to pay him 4 maybe 5 times his current salry and not play him in their first team for two or three years. We can't and Wilder more than anybody knows we have to keep our momentum going now. Brooks before Duffy or Carruthers - not for a good while.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Kev - agree big dogs keep pouncing on mere poodles such as small minded clubs like us. Please see the Southampton model in back to back promotions. They reluctantly sold their star youth to the big dogs and only did so for the dog's bollocks. They then had big money to sensibly reinvest and achieve promotion.

Not a plan made by NASA, a plan made by an ambitious club that stood their ground to achieve their objectives.

 

[Slim Man]

The other perspective is that Wilder would not have picked any of those players in his first team last season and probably not this season either. Brooks will get cameos for a few months. In the Malaga game he was missing on the press and when he dropped deeper later in the game he gave the ball away badly to give them their best chance.

The two big dynamics here are: 1. the lad's wages 2. first team football.

A big club can afford to pay him 4 maybe 5 times his current salry and not play him in their first team for two or three years. We can't and Wilder more than anybody knows we have to keep our momentum going now. Brooks before Duffy or Carruthers - not for a good while.

I disagree entirely. I think Brooks has to be talked about in the same bracket as the two of them, he's more talented than both.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Lookman went for £7.5 million RISING to £11 million over 4.5 years. He had 45+ league appearances and around 20 England appearances. A fair bit more than Brooksy. Like many others I saw his potential as soon as I saw him a couple of years ago now and would love to see a midfield based on Whiteman/Reed/Brooks.
I feel everyone's pain over Brooksbut the club cannot stick a £30 million price tag on him as some are suggesting. They would have to pay commensurate wages. That's what Bosman was about.

I am not sure about a release clause. PSG has offered to buy out the release clause of Neymar at Barcelona at around €200 million so clearly that might not be an obstruction.

So how much you regkon Charlton were paying Lookman in getting a deal rising to £11m. Buttons I suspect.

 

[Bert]

Harry Maguire, Jamie Murphy, James Beattie, Matt Lowton

We could go on forever. There's a lot more we've been done on then done well.

Market values gained when all those players sought to leave.

 

[stringer]

Pigs wouldn't sell any of their best players period. That's a fact.

Chansiri certainly wouldn't embarrass himself trotting this shite out that Kev has this afternoon.

It wasn't this afternoon

 

[spongebobblade]

A few appearances? 45 league games and around 20 England appearances.

31 league appearances for DCL before his move. How many of Lookmans England apps have come since his move to Everton? DCL stands on 14 now not to mention he's played more games for Everton than Lookman. There's very little between them...... except for the price tag of course

 

[Bert]

I disagree entirely. I think Brooks has to be talked about in the same bracket as the two of them, he's more talented than both.

He's bloody Pele now.....

 

[metalblade]

So what McCabe is saying to the Premiership is really "come and get him (Brooks) he is for sale to the highest bidder" at the same time he is letting bladesfans know Brooks will be sold before the transfer window shuts. But we all knew that anyway once he was recalled from going out on loan. Same owd same owd, just be careful Kevin, very careful your meddling might just alienate the best manager we have had here since John Harris. Just think where you would be without Wilder grow some balls and back the bloke.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Yes, of course, but you hear them play hardball more often. They make clear statements that certain players are not for sale. Even the Allen regime did this.

The Allen regime almost bankrupted the club didnt it?,plus the had no decent players to sell once they had sold Brunt

 

[Slim Man]

Calm down... relax.... They bought him at the value the market dictated. Everton couldn't stop it happening because he made ir clear he wanted to leave.

The same might happen with Brooks. But let's remember it's early days with the lad. Excitement seems to be reaching Di Girilamo levels and we know what happened there!

He made it clear last year he wanted to leave. They told him he wasn't going anywhere.

Why are we assuming Brooks will do that anyway? Ramsdale didn't. DCL didn't. Adams sulked but he never said he was leaving and that was that.

We accepted their offers and said 'on yer bike'. Big difference.

 

[Slim Man]

It wasn't this afternoon

I don't care if it was last year. It's still embarrassing.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

He made it clear last year he wanted to leave. They told him he wasn't going anywhere.

Why are we assuming Brooks will do that anyway? Ramsdale didn't. DCL didn't. Adams sulked but he never said he was leaving and that was that.

We accepted their offers and said 'on yer bike'. Big difference.

Most of your arguments against McCabe are based on presumptions!

 

[Slim Man]

Most of your arguments against McCabe are based on presumptions!

How so?

 

[Woodwardfan]

McCabe knows exactly what's what with these young lads. He's a businessman and he knows numbers. He's watched young lads come and go and he more than anybody would love to hang on to them, but we can't. Best we can do is get a good deal and a big sell-on clause. McCabe has employed Chief Execs who have settled without that clause but not in recent years thank goodness.

As a League 1 Club we had our hands tied with a double knot. Now it's a single knot and when we are in the Prem we will have free hands but even then, not if one of the Top 6 come knocking.

Blades fans of all fans should understand these facts of life by now. And by the way SWFC cannot keep hold of Hirst if a big club comes in for him. SWFC cannot afford to pay him top club wages just on potential at some time in the future. They have the immediate business of getting promoted instead.

 

[stringer]

I don't care if it was last year. It's still embarrassing.

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