Karl Robinson

[Davie Blade]

This lad seems very reliable and called the sacking the day before it was announced. Have a look though his tweets. Deffo ITK.

https://twitter.com/Stephenson87M?lang=en-gb&lang=en-gb

Should be compulsory reading for the Clough fanboys.

Morale of the story is those who are blaming the board, take a step back, and re-evaluate who the true problem was! #sufc #twitterblades

Just think, if Clough was clever enough to pull his head out his own arse n stop being the stubborn, walking ego that he is, he'd still

2/2 be the #sufc manager today. Left the club no choice, they asked him to change, he said no way, they said goodbye! The end!

 

[Blade82]

You're becoming an irritant. You clearly have no respect for experience. No-one has until they get it. I've played and seen a great deal more football than you. Allardyce is a Dinosaur, like Beck, Bassett, Blackwell and Others. I don't like him, his anti-football or his dubious past, but I dare say you know little or nothing about that. I don't want him or his like anywhere near my club, so please don't trouble to tell me he wouldn't come as though that's some bizarre Badge of Honour. I'm delighted, Fat Sam, that you wouldn't dream of being our manager. It spares me the nightmare scenario that you and your brown paper actually might.

I have got a grip and I've got an opinion, based on many years of playing and watching the game. I know which teams win the leagues and trophies. The ones who play the best football, and it ain't Hoofball.
I have tried to explain that simple proposition to you on a number of occasions now, but you choose dismissive flippancies rather than reason.

We can have a discussion, by all means, but don't persist with silly sideswipes like "get a grip" and "pathetic" or dialogue will cease.

As I say, you worship at the altar of non-football if you wish, it's your right, but you won't deny me the right to say it's been conclusively demonstrated to fail or that I don't rate your mate Allardyce or the shite he substitutes for football. You know, this nonsense only prevails in S2, don't you? Elsewhere it's universally acknowledged that the argument ended years ago. The referee stopped the fight to save Hoof from further punishment.

No respect for experience yet you're slating alladyce. Get your appoication in for the blades job pinchy you fool.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Should be compulsory reading for the Clough fanboys.

Morale of the story is those who are blaming the board, take a step back, and re-evaluate who the true problem was! #sufc #twitterblades

Just think, if Clough was clever enough to pull his head out his own arse n stop being the stubborn, walking ego that he is, he'd still

2/2 be the #sufc manager today. Left the club no choice, they asked him to change, he said no way, they said goodbye! The end!

"Compulsory reading" does not (yet) mean "compulsory agreeing with".

This is wildly speculative unsubstantiated hearsay - added to the opinion that Clough was egotistical, when nothing could be further from the truth from what I've seen.

0 + 0 = 0

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Should be compulsory reading for the Clough fanboys.

Morale of the story is those who are blaming the board, take a step back, and re-evaluate who the true problem was! #sufc #twitterblades

Just think, if Clough was clever enough to pull his head out his own arse n stop being the stubborn, walking ego that he is, he'd still

2/2 be the #sufc manager today. Left the club no choice, they asked him to change, he said no way, they said goodbye! The end!

http://m.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/s...nited-blades-bust-up-claims-refuted-1-7279742

James Shield says the exact opposite. He definitely gets to hear inside information. Who is this other bloke?

 

[metalblade]

http://m.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/s...nited-blades-bust-up-claims-refuted-1-7279742

James Shield says the exact opposite. He definitely gets to hear inside information. Who is this other bloke?

Nothing at all in that article based on any facts just a headline based on pure guesswork.

 

[blade too long]

pity about the ski village,
saw this video , thought about moving back from Spain , but I had been drinking

 

[maxstertheblade]

Nothing at all in that article based on any facts just a headline based on pure guesswork.

He's just using the bookies. It's always guess work with himhim

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Nothing at all in that article based on any facts just a headline based on pure guesswork.

Not being contrary but, apart from guesswork, is driving this demand from the board to change, and Clough refusing?

 

[Davie Blade]

http://m.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/s...nited-blades-bust-up-claims-refuted-1-7279742

James Shield says the exact opposite. He definitely gets to hear inside information. Who is this other bloke?

As usual JS has nothing to say about anything. The headline is just clickbait with FA substance.
These local rags and RS journos rarely get an inside story they are too busy playing the party line of not upsetting the boss/club.
Some things might be off the record but break that trust and you don;t get another chance.
Did JS or RS ever get the inside story of Diego or Butler or Collins et al.

Some things might be said off the record but break that trust and you don't get another chance.
Think about it, upset the boss and you don't get another interview .
Not a great career move when your job is to look into just one pond.

 

[Revolution]

Has everyone forgot how bad it was to watch MK against us this season ?

No, but I also haven't forgotten that they got the double over us. Or that they scored 101 goals - 35 more than us. Or that they got 91 points - 20 more than us. Or that they conceded 44 goals - 9 less than us.

If Robinson can do something to give us a record like that next season, I'll take it.

 

[blade too long]

How dare you , James Shield is as trusted as a FIFA delegate

 

[HolmesfieldBlade]

Cannot see this happening to be honest, we offer nothing to the bloke in regards to his career and not much to his cv.

 

[Pinchy]

Cannot see this happening to be honest, we offer nothing to the bloke in regards to his career and not much to his cv.

The prospect of taking Sheffield United back to the Championship and beyond? Sounds attractive to me, especially if I'm manager of a tiny club with no tradition, heritage or support. Still, keep on doffing your cap. It's the Bladesfans Way.

Robinson is the man we should appoint. He has the big advantage, over Adkins, of an intimate and immediate knowledge of this league, all the clubs, all the players. It's a long time since Adkins was in League One. Robinson would have a running start. He's produced a team of fit, powerful athletes who play the game the proper way. They pass the ball and score plenty of goals. They have a mix of solidity and flair. There'll be none of that utterly futile, long discredited anti-football, Hoof.

Gerrimin. He's the best man for the job.

 

[super_pig]

http://m.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/s...nited-blades-bust-up-claims-refuted-1-7279742
James Shield says the exact opposite. He definitely gets to hear inside information. Who is this other bloke?

he's not saying anything that hasn't been discussed on here tbf

 

[brownie4583]

I want the blades to finish in the top 2 next season,as we all do.
In an ideal world we will play good attacking football,but I am not bothered how we play as long as we get promotion next season.
Passing,a bit of hoofball,whatever,but if we have 2 good strikers who will score 20 plus league goals a piece then we should do it.
Goals win games,strikers make all the difference,Wilbrabham and Agard at Bristol C,Ali,Afobe,Grigg at MK,Garner and Gallagher at PNE,you always have a good chance with goalscorers in the side.
Hopefully the new manager will attract better players and be more attack minded next season.

 

[Torrix1889]

I want the blades to finish in the top 2 next season,as we all do.
In an ideal world we will play good attacking football,but I am not bothered how we play as long as we get promotion next season.
Passing,a bit of hoofball,whatever,but if we have 2 good strikers who will score 20 plus league goals a piece then we should do it.
Goals win games,strikers make all the difference,Wilbrabham and Agard at Bristol C,Ali,Afobe,Grigg at MK,Garner and Gallagher at PNE,you always have a good chance with goalscorers in the side.
Hopefully the new manager will attract better players and be more attack minded next season.

Done and McNulty are capable of scoring 20 goals each if we play attacking football.......although one of them, (Done) with a more powerful centre forward alongside, (Che?) would be a better combination.

And don't forget the arrival of a new manager could bring about a change of direction for Diego..

 

[Grappler]

The prospect of taking Sheffield United back to the Championship and beyond? Sounds attractive to me, especially if I'm manager of a tiny club with no tradition, heritage or support. Still, keep on doffing your cap. It's the Bladesfans Way.

Robinson is the man we should appoint. He has the big advantage, over Adkins, of an intimate and immediate knowledge of this league, all the clubs, all the players. It's a long time since Adkins was in League One. Robinson would have a running start. He's produced a team of fit, powerful athletes who play the game the proper way. They pass the ball and score plenty of goals. They have a mix of solidity and flair. There'll be none of that utterly futile, long discredited anti-football, Hoof.

Gerrimin. He's the best man for the job.

This, to me, is part of the key to getting out of League One. The vast majority of the team have to be six foot at a minimum, solid and fast.

 

[Grappler]

Done and McNulty are capable of scoring 20 goals each if we play attacking football.......although one of them, (Done) with a more powerful centre forward alongside, (Che?) would be a better combination.

And don't forget the arrival of a new manager could bring about a change of direction for Diego..

Done is definitley capable of 20 goals, and I think McNulty could be too. My only issue is the lack of height.

It's not rocket science is it? You score more goals than the other team. We have lacked that since Evans went to prison.

As others have said, I just want us out of this league, I will take a srappy 1-0 win week in, week out, if it means that next summer we are all celebrating our return to the Championship.

 

[ScoobBlade]

I must say im a fan of Robinson but he had a lot of time at MK Dons to gain promotion, built slowly and was a nearly man for years. I'm not sure he would be given boat as much time with us

 

[cooperblade]

He has the big advantage, over Adkins, of an intimate and immediate knowledge of this league, all the clubs, all the players. It's a long time since Adkins was in League One. Robinson would have a running start.

Given it's the 27th of May, I think this is absolutely key. It's also a positive for Parkinson (and we might need every positive we can find if he gets it).

Our new manager will, you have to think, be sacked if we don't get promoted so they can't really afford a slow start as they get to know the players and the strengths and weaknesses of the squad. We need someone who has a list of targets that they can hand over straight away.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Nothing at all in that article based on any facts just a headline based on pure guesswork.

As usual JS has nothing to say about anything. The headline is just clickbait with FA substance.
These local rags and RS journos rarely get an inside story they are too busy playing the party line of not upsetting the boss/club.
Some things might be off the record but break that trust and you don;t get another chance.
Did JS or RS ever get the inside story of Diego or Butler or Collins et al.

Some things might be said off the record but break that trust and you don't get another chance.
Think about it, upset the boss and you don't get another interview .
Not a great career move when your job is to look into just one pond.

1) Clough pledged to introduce a more expansive style
2) The pre-season friendly schedule has been finalised
3) He was due to have talks with two potential signings from Preston/Swindon later this week
4) Clough did not expect to be sacked
5) Clough admitted the absence of a regular centre-half contributed to the play-off defeat

Those are interesting titbits of information, which somebody "close to the first team squad" has apparently discussed with Shield.
Whether you choose to believe them or not seems to depend entirely on how much you dislike Nigel Clough.

Meanwhile, some random bloke on Twitter is "compulsory reading" because he calls Clough a few names and exclusively reveals "Clough was sacked because he stubbornly refused to change".

I know which version of the truth has more substance behind it.

 

[Barney]

Given it's the 27th of May, I think this is absolutely key. It's also a positive for Parkinson (and we might need every positive we can find if he gets it).

Our new manager will, you have to think, be sacked if we don't get promoted so they can't really afford a slow start as they get to know the players and the strengths and weaknesses of the squad. We need someone who has a list of targets that they can hand over straight away.

Doubt he'll be sacked if we don't get promoted next season, think he'll get 2 full seasons. I think they sacked Clough because he did get the best part of 2 seasons but obviously his stubbornness and/or his other undesirable traits tipped them over the edge IMO.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I must say im a fan of Robinson but he had a lot of time at MK Dons to gain promotion, built slowly and was a nearly man for years. I'm not sure he would be given boat as much time with us

It's taken five seasons for Robinson to get one of the biggest clubs in the division promoted.
He failed twice in the play-offs, finishing 5th, 5th, 8th and then 10th.
Can you imagine the mardy foot-stampers on our Board and on Twitter being willing to accept that?
He would have been long gone after the first or second attempt.
He was shit in all the cups though, that should make a few people happy.

 

[itsinyerblood]

It's taken five seasons for Robinson to get one of the biggest clubs in the division promoted.
Finishing 5th, 5th, 8th and then 10th.
Can you imagine the mardy foot-stampers on our Board and on Twitter being happy with that?
He would have been long gone after the first or second attempt.

Sothall_Blade, and credit to their board, whatever the reasons for Robinson's length of stay at MKDs, patience may, one day, return to fashion in the minds of those who can't conceive of anything other than now, now, now!

 

[Blade56]

Think MKD was a different project to us. They were a "new" club working to establish and build a fan base etc during his 5 yr tenure.

We are a totally different project in that we are an established club with a big following, have financial backing in place, extensive facilities, academy producing young talent etc. Robinson will flourish quickly here

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Doubt he'll be sacked if we don't get promoted next season, think he'll get 2 full seasons. I think they sacked Clough because he did get the best part of 2 seasons but obviously his stubbornness and/or his other undesirable traits tipped them over the edge IMO.

I think the other factor was on visible progress, and lack thereof.

In Clough's first season, where we had 35 league games, he averaged 1.77 points per game.
Last season, he averaged 1.54 points per game over the full 46 league games.

That first season also saw quite a so-so build-up until, realistically, after the Crewe game where everything fit into place. It's not unreasonable for the board to have looked at the season just gone and suggested the bare minimum was to match what he had done the previous season, particularly given:

- there was no honeymoon period where we could accept a low points haul because he was getting used to the squad, or righting Weir's wrongs
- the extra investment and signings resulting from two transfer windows
- he had the benefit of experience from that past season

 

[itsinyerblood]

Think MKD was a different project to us. They were a "new" club working to establish and build a fan base etc during his 5 yr tenure.

We are a totally different project in that we are an established club with a big following, have financial backing in place, extensive facilities, academy producing young talent etc. Robinson will flourish quickly here

In one respect, yes, MKD are a different project to us, they realised that patience was a necessity no matter what project was being driven. I've no doubt that football, being the dosh driven beast it is, will demand quick results/fixes for the long-term, but what I think this has/will show is that those who have deep pockets aren't necessarily equipped to understand the nature of this particular business. For further evidence, refer to Mike Ashley.

 

[cooperblade]

Doubt he'll be sacked if we don't get promoted next season, think he'll get 2 full seasons. I think they sacked Clough because he did get the best part of 2 seasons but obviously his stubbornness and/or his other undesirable traits tipped them over the edge IMO.

He started in 21st place though - the new bloke will be starting with the 5th best team in the division. One looks a quicker job than the other.

 

[Barney]

He started in 21st place though - the new bloke will be starting with the 5th best team in the division. One looks a quicker job than the other.

I honestly think he would of stayed but for some 'argument' or whatever the rumour is with the board in that meeting. Why else would they let him do that cringey promotional video? Unless the club is completely disjointed and separate in terms of social media and board level.

So if that was the reason why he went, obviously that would point to 2 years for the new boss.
Also, if the new manager is actually likeable and doesn't openly criticise the fans and his own players, i would
predict that would land him some more time aswell.

If it wasn't the reason, then he may well be sacked after next season but just can't see it for some reason especially
given the critique the board has received after Cloughs sacking.

 

[Revolution]

In one respect, yes, MKD are a different project to us, they realised that patience was a necessity no matter what project was being driven. I've no doubt that football, being the dosh driven beast it is, will demand quick results/fixes for the long-term, but what I think this has/will show is that those who have deep pockets aren't necessarily equipped to understand the nature of this particular business. For further evidence, refer to Mike Ashley.

Mike Ashley understands things perfectly well. He makes a lot of money out of Newcastle. That's his primary aim. And he is anything but short term in his outlook.