CONFIRMED Kalvin Phillips

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If the rumours of this being cheap as chips for us im happeh, its a semi decent depth pick with high upside if we can achieve the impossible and get him actually back ont pitch.
 
If the rumours of this being cheap as chips for us im happeh, its a semi decent depth pick with high upside if we can achieve the impossible and get him actually back ont pitch.

To be fair from a City point of view they really need him to start performing again because he still has another 2 years on his contract.
 
The kind of players Wilder seems to love signing puts me in mind of something I still remember from 40 years ago on Saint & Greavesie.

It came when Trevor Francis had returned from Italy and signed for Souness at Glasgow Rangers. Ian St John commented on the unusual nature of the contract in that Francis had signed on a pay-as-you-play basis of £2,000 a game.

To which Jimmy Greaves quipped "the thing is Saint, can Trev survive on six grand a year?"
Saturday morning Saint & greavsie
Saturday afternoon Bramall lane
Saturday night green un
Take me back please
 
He had a chance last season and wasn’t good enough!
Not like hes not had other chances with west ham and ipswich since then is it 30 games in nearly 4 years is pathetic sure we had brewster doing same cheerleading pulling a a wage sat in a&e like this fucker does for years dragging silly money but give them a chance eh give someone else on less money and less reputation to come and tear league up with no fear hes 30 year old barely got much longer left in his legs paying silly loan wages to sit in bench for 6 months ill come back here when hes moaned at every week for being dead on his feet or injured again better still sent back to city in january when hes out rest of season pathetic move playing it safe with a name we never learn been there last year did fuckall but blame injurys to have another chance why dont we
 
Not like hes not had other chances with west ham and ipswich since then is it 30 games in nearly 4 years is pathetic sure we had brewster doing same cheerleading pulling a a wage sat in a&e like this fucker does for years dragging silly money but give them a chance eh give someone else on less money and less reputation to come and tear league up with no fear hes 30 year old barely got much longer left in his legs paying silly loan wages to sit in bench for 6 months ill come back here when hes moaned at every week for being dead on his feet or injured again better still sent back to city in january when hes out rest of season pathetic move playing it safe with a name we never learn been there last year did fuckall but blame injurys to have another chance why dont we
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Why?
He actually looked very good in his 2.5 games until he got sent off.
Apologies for being pedantic, but it wasn't even 2 full matches (subbed on at 67 mins vs Boro, full game vs Pompey, sent off at 49mins vs the filth).

My issues are primarily related to our return on investment, and how dismal that would have been in his spell with us last year. We played 17 games after the Phillips deal was done - remove the Oxford game (as I don't remember if he was registered in time for that one or if he just wasn't fit enough), plus the 3 games he was suspended for, and that's <2 of 13 games that he appeared in, in an approx. 3 month period (Start of Feb - start of May). Considering how tight our budget for this season seemingly is, we cannot afford to have a player is so consistently unavailable.
 
The kind of players Wilder seems to love signing puts me in mind of something I still remember from 40 years ago on Saint & Greavesie.

It came when Trevor Francis had returned from Italy and signed for Souness at Glasgow Rangers. Ian St John commented on the unusual nature of the contract in that Francis had signed on a pay-as-you-play basis of £2,000 a game.

To which Jimmy Greaves quipped "the thing is Saint, can Trev survive on six grand a year?"

That’s the Trevor Francis who played a further 7 years until he was 40.
 



The overwhelming majority will. This forum is not a true reflection of all Unitedites.

There’s also a vast number of people who will read and not post to the contrary, given that it’s the default position of most people as soon as a lad has a red and white shirt.
 
Don’t buy this cheap as chips deal spin, he’s on £150,000 a week at City and they’ll definitely want a sizeable contribution towards that. Otherwise what’s the point in them sanctioning the deal?
 
There’s also a vast number of people who will read and not post to the contrary, given that it’s the default position of most people as soon as a lad has a red and white shirt.
Im an owl mate you know that..but I'd rather have kept hamer than getting Phillips in..hamer is over weight but can lose that and Phillips is a crock now.
 
Don’t buy this cheap as chips deal spin, he’s on £150,000 a week at City and they’ll definitely want a sizeable contribution towards that. Otherwise what’s the point in them sanctioning the deal?
He's not going to play for them, so he might as well play for someone and that someone might as well be us. He likes it here. If he stays fit, plays well, and gets a run in the side that increases his resale value for them.

There's potential for all parties to benefit, but only if he's fit. They recognise fitness is key and are happy to go along with that as part of the deal.
 
Don’t buy this cheap as chips deal spin, he’s on £150,000 a week at City and they’ll definitely want a sizeable contribution towards that. Otherwise what’s the point in them sanctioning the deal?

You're just assuming that. If his wages were going to break the bank he wouldn't be here, it really is that simple.

Why do folks automatically assume the worst? The Prince changed all that when he stopped giving our players away so maybe just let them crack on with it.
 
He's not going to play for them, so he might as well play for someone and that someone might as well be us. He likes it here. If he stays fit, plays well, and gets a run in the side that increases his resale value for them.

There's potential for all parties to benefit, but only if he's fit. They recognise fitness is key and are happy to go along with that as part of the deal.

So 10 games max then.

Who else covers that position? Injuries, suspensions, he plays around 10 games next season.
 
So.. we've been after him all summer but finally sign him the week then season starts, meaning he's had no pre season, while Wilder continues to make a big song and dance about how important pre season is?

He won't be match fit for weeks meaning we'll basically a midfielder short for weeks. Wilders other target being Souttar will also fuck off to the Asia cup or whatever it is, and miss a bunch of games.

Two marquee signings, both have barely played in the last few years, both have really poor injury records and both will miss large parts of the season. Another masterclass from Wilder.
 
Can't understand the negativity behind this signing.
It's a LOAN ffs. We've not splashed millions on him. Ok no doubt his wages will be high. Yes he's had a history of injuries.
But he's also a player of some quality. Something we need.
If he does get a long term injury......... he goes back to Citeh to recuperate and we don't pay anything while he does. ( not entirely sure it works like that but I would hope that's the case)
What have we got to lose? If he performs to his potential then great. If not he goes back
Get behind him, and let's see what happens.It's

Let's get Souttar in now!
 



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