JRS

[Stretch]

Wilder said that Brooks had been pushing JRS in training, so now that Brooks has made his claim for the shirt, let's hope JRS is going to fight as hard to get his place back.

Whether it was fatigue, or he was carrying a knock, he simply hasn't looked on it during his recent appearances.

 

[Grizzly blade]

Steady 6/10 for me overall.

Value currently-£2m

He may have the odd good game but is completely out of the game the minute teams look to nullify him and seems at a loss what to do.
Not significantly quick which for the position he plays suggests he’s unlikely to be very effective at premier league level.

Palace will be hoping someone is daft enough to take him for silly money, I’m hoping we are not that team.

 

[robbiez666]

I think the laziness was my main issue with him. Provided no protection whatsoever for Gilchrist. Hecky seemed to have a way of doing that with youngsters. Ndiaye, Gibbs-White, McAtee. Let's hope Wilder can do the same.

 

[robbiez666]

Steady 6/10 for me overall.

Value currently-£2m

He may have the odd good game but is completely out of the game the minute teams look to nullify him and seems at a loss what to do.
Not significantly quick which for the position he plays suggests he’s unlikely to be very effective at premier league level.

Palace will be hoping someone is daft enough to take him for silly money, I’m hoping we are not that team.

I think he's probably worth £5 million because there's definite potential there.

 

[Overthehills]

This stinks of ‘Sheffield United have new owners, let’s sound them out and see if we can get a good price out of them for him’

It very much depends on where we are setting our goal really…. championship club? Yes, fantastic asset and minimal risk. He’s young and should blossom in this league. Premier League club on the other hand…. He’s lightweight and he’s not exactly ripped this league a new one. He’s fringe at Palace and would end up being fringe in the top flight with us no doubt.

A couple of million and it would be a no brainer. However at this stage, money I would rather us not spend.

 

[SUFCinks]

Personally i think he has ability but like the vast majority i don’t think we’ve seen it often enough. I think Brooks is better also.

I wouldn’t pay for him as I think Palace will be wanting £10+ mill and i don't think he’s worth half that. I also don’t think he has premier league ability so would be a pointless signing long term.

We need better if we are recruiting to establish ourselves in the prem. He’s championship standard.

 

[Keen Blade]

I think the laziness was my main issue with him. Provided no protection whatsoever for Gilchrist. Hecky seemed to have a way of doing that with youngsters. Ndiaye, Gibbs-White, McAtee. Let's hope Wilder can do the same.

Crikey when you put those 3 names together it's hard to believe we've had them recently - bid for McAtee now £40m I believe , same with MGW to Florist and then if Everton sell Ndiaye...

 

[nopigfansintown]

He's in his first Champ season and still developing physically. He could and possibly should (Brooks) have been rested more to keep him fresh and help mitigate his expected inconsistencies. Another year in the Champ would be great for him.

He's seen by other teams as our biggest threat which is the reason they almost all set up as they do: low block, flooding his side with players. Gilchrist makes this easier for them as he doesn't have the pace or natural game to help to break this block. It's usually JRS Vs two or three. It'll be very interesting if we get Hamer central and natural wide man on the left. One of two things will happen imo: teams will defend in a more balanced way opening space up space for JRS, or Hamer and a left winger will have a birthday.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

Brookes > JRS.

There I said it.

Happy for him to go back for another club to spunk £12m-£15m on him tbh. Leeds hopefully.

Young lad with room to grow but is severely lacking in key disciplines required in his position on the pitch.

UTB

Nonsense

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Wilder said that Brooks had been pushing JRS in training, so now that Brooks has made his claim for the shirt, let's hope JRS is going to fight as hard to get his place back.

Whether it was fatigue, or he was carrying a knock, he simply hasn't looked on it during his recent appearances.

What did Wilder do the next game after JRS had scored two... IIRC he benched him at Leeds..............Wilder might just do the same with Brooks for the next league game, i am expecting it, if all the injured players and possibly new recruits are all available.

 

[Keen Blade]

Issues
Does Wilder really want wingers ?
Better wingers at WBA , Boro , Mackems , who might come to us if we go up.
Doesn't seem intelligent player - keeps repeating same moves despite constant failure to go through bunched defenders when he's cut inside.
Doesn't track & tackle back.
What is exact nature & prognosis for JRS injury ? Very reluctant to pay a fee for a player who's got hammy problem.
Depends on fee and whether his deficiencies are continuing because our coaches haven't spotted them or he can't take & implement their advice.

 

[Keen Blade]

He's in his first Champ season and still developing physically. He could and possibly should (Brooks) have been rested more to keep him fresh and help mitigate his expected inconsistencies. Another year in the Champ would be great for him.

He's seen by other teams as our biggest threat which is the reason they almost all set up as they do: low block, flooding his side with players. Gilchrist makes this easier for them as he doesn't have the pace or natural game to help to break this block. It's usually JRS Vs two or three. It'll be very interesting if we get Hamer central and natural wide man on the left. One of two things will happen imo: teams will defend in a more balanced way opening space up space for JRS, or Hamer and a left winger will have a birthday.

Our attack has suffered from something of an imbalance all season which is not the fault of individual players but the way we are set up.
Having a winger on one side but not on the other.
To accommodate Hamer & O'Hare (who themselves aren't in ideal positions).

It sounds daft , but we have the optimum talent to play 12 a side.

But making the choices in how we set up the attacking 4 is very difficult coz we can only play 11 in total.

Giving O'Hare the freedom to roam and press & tackle means that with his energy he is virtually undroppable.

But so is Hamer. And he'd be better in the middle.

And yet we looked so good at Ewood with 2 strikers.

And we've no natural LW.

It's really going to be a puzzle when BBD is added to the squad

Maybe we can drop one of the holding midfielders for Hamer against the weaker teams at home ?

Once we get Campbell back , CW could decide to play with no wingers in some matches

But if Moore's playing , he could have 2 wingers (if you call BBD a LW) getting crosses in.

 

[Melbourne Blade]

Think JRS would perform better with a more attack minded right back - Eg Seriki. But I only think they've played together very briefly. Alternatively as previous posters have mentioned switch him to the left occasionally to interplay with Burrows. I wouldn't buy him permanently on current (before injury) form but at 22 he has amazing potential if he bulks up and stops falling down so easily.

 

[SwissBlade]

If we could negotiate a first dibs kind of deal in the 8-10m range if promoted that would be good.

Ie renegotiate the loan in to a loan to buy

I think that would be sensible with lots of add on's and a sell on percentage for Palace. If Osula was 10, then JRS is in the same range because that's the money clubs are prepared to pay for younger players

Again, only worth doing the deal once we're up

 

[finlaytheblade]

Too one dimensional. Brooks not as good at taking on a man but offers mich more overall for the team.

Think your selling Brooks short there ! He has more tricks in his locker and now he has a bit of beleaf in himself! Watch him go!
And I don't mean sell him.!

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Cannot believe our fans sometimes.
JRS getting all the stick, Brooks scores a good goal and he suddenly has higher potential than JRS.
Yes JRS form dropped off for the last few games he played before he was out injured, but none of us know if he was carrying an injury in that time.
Brooks scored a good goal on Saturday but let's not forget until just recently he was struggling to get on the pitch with Wilder making a comment he had to show more in training.
For me it's no coincidence that our form has dropped off the last few games, yes in part due to all our injures but also because JRS has been missing.
I'm not bashing Brooks by the way just don't get some of the comments about JRS especially the ones that don't think we should sign him.

 

[Weasel]

If we had the chance to sign JRS permanently then we should be very interested in making that happen. That said, it would then be all.about the price being asked and that is a crux of the matter. Where do you draw the line re his current value against his potential value, when in truth we need to be spending our bucks on other areas of the team also.

Wouldn't make sense to me to even look at this until the summer, unless it was an absolute steal which it won't be. Then it can be looked at again to see where all parties see this one going.

 

[ekke287]

I like JRS but I’m wary of us talking about signing him at this stage. If we were faltering mid table and thinking of next season it’s a no brainier at the right price, but as there’s a chance of promotion he’s currently a gamble in the prem.

Let’s remember we signed a Brewster as a similar prospect for a fortune and it’s never worked out, it’s not a dig at RB but £20m is an affordable gamble to established prem teams, but not one we could afford to fail.

There’s a reason he’s (JRS) on loan at a good championship club, and I could see him being loaned out again next season or sold to a similar level club if he remains at palace.

It’s all unknown however, as we have no idea of the intentions of the new owners. Maybe they see a £10m fee for potential as acceptable, maybe they don’t. Until we see some action it’s just idle speculation.

 

[Large Mendonca]

Do we think we'd ever see him smile again if he moved permanently to here????

 

[robbiez666]

He's seen by other teams as our biggest threat which is the reason they almost all set up as they do: low block, flooding his side with players

It frustrates me that Wilder doesn't get him to swap wings because it makes it easier for opposition managers to neutralise him.

 

[Pedro Verde]

It's really going to be a puzzle when BBD is added to the squad

Its going to be a headache according to The Star

My opinion on JRS is that to sign him for anything more than £6m would be a gamble one on pervious experience I would be reluctant to take. Brooks is our player and cost nothing
If he reaches his potential he would be worth north of £20m but its a big IF

 

[Frank the tank]

Do we think we'd ever see him smile again if he moved permanently to here????

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[petcharlie]

Personally i think he has ability but like the vast majority i don’t think we’ve seen it often enough. I think Brooks is better also.

I wouldn’t pay for him as I think Palace will be wanting £10+ mill and i don't think he’s worth half that. I also don’t think he has premier league ability so would be a pointless signing long term.

We need better if we are recruiting to establish ourselves in the prem. He’s championship standard.

Also i think Brooks is starting to out shine him .Brooks offers more cover for out full back to and is not afraid to jog back and help out where as he seems to just stroll about up top waiting for the ball instead of going to get it .

 

[1889]

I think he lacks the pace and physicality to play at the highest level, he could still develop in those areas as he’s still young. Whether he has the dedication, desire and application to push himself to make those changes is the key. Although, from what I’ve seen of him so far, the word ‘Industrious’ is not one that springs immediately to mind.

On that basis, I wouldn’t be too concerned if he went back to Palace.

 

[SGBlade]

His form has dropped off but it’s only about 8 weeks ago he was classed as one of the hottest prospects playing outside the Prem. I could see someone paying 10m for him.

I don’t see why we would pay that for him now though. We have him until the end of the season and our budget can be used elsewhere to improve the team for our promotion push. Let’s see how we and him do and then take a call then.

 

[Jimmy Fleck]

I’d be disappointed if rak-sakyi went back, and cannot fathom the criticism he’s been getting. We need him and brooks both competing for the right wing.

 

[gavtheblade]

I've not seen anything that pitches him ahead of Brooks for his overall contribution to the game.
I think JRS falls into the 'can't be arsed' camp, he doesn't even look interested.
I'd be tempted to put money elsewhere.

 

[robbiez666]

I’d be disappointed if rak-sakyi went back, and cannot fathom the criticism he’s been getting. We need him and brooks both competing for the right wing.

I don't see any reason why we wouldn't want to keep him this season. He needs to graft more but he's dangerous and a potential match winner. I'd like to see him and Brooks interchanging and playing together.

 

[Shadota]

I'd like us to have words about a perm if Palace are willing. If they would want something in the 7-10million range, I'd really like us to pursue something.

He's not been the most consistent player this season by any means. However, he falls neatly into 2 categories of footballer currently who tend to be inconsistent - he's young, and he's a winger.

He's also now spending a 2nd season out on loan after Charlton last year - continual change of scenery can't be all that helpful, especially now that he's further from home.

If we were able to buy him, spend more time coaching him and getting him established at upper-Championship standard, he'd be excellent.

 

[ancientblade]

im not convinced with jrs i would only want to sign him if the fee was realistic