Jordan Slew

[ThatJa]

Let me start by saying this isn't a rumour, i just think it belongs here most.

A mate of mine who's a Blackburn fan said that Bowyer has told Slew that he's not in his plans, and that he is free to find a new club, he is also rumoured to be in talks with "a few league one clubs" and he asked if i knew if we was one of them, to which i don't but... how would you feel about him coming back?

I'm undecided as he hasn't had a proper chance at a first team level at all, of course that was his fault for jumping ship as i think he could have had a decent season for his development if he stayed here in the first place.

 

[Pedro Verde]

He wasnt good enough for Rotherham in L2. Dont think the fans would want him back hes hardly a returning hero
Should have done what Maguire did

 

[LoughboroBlade]

He's been in 19 league games since he left us for Blackburn, Oldham, Stevenage and Rotherham, and he hasn't scored in any of them. In contrast, Maguire, who broke through at the same time and decided to stick it out with us, has been in the England U21s and is nearing his 100th league appearance.

Perhaps Slew will relaunch his career and do well. If he's available for a free and average L1 wages, perhaps it would be worth considering. But he's not worth more than that IMHO, and I'd prefer we looked elsewhere.

 

[1889]

I remember something on Sky that they did before some home game. Part of it was one of those typical shite quizzes about your team mates, During which they asked who is most likely to be late for training, or something similar and Morgan immediately said 'Slewy'. I remember thinking then, what a sad indictment on a young lad just breaking into the first team, with the opportunity of a fantastic career right within his grasp and he has the reputation of the squad slack ass!

He should have been first there and last to leave, what's more he should have stopped at Bramall Lane and learned his trade. Sadly Slew was up himself, thought he was too good for United and at the first sniff of interest, he chased the money. Personally I wouldn't have him back if he played for free and washed the kit, fuck him.

 

[mattbianco1]

Another sad thing to consider is you don't know how much was down to Slew. His agent will have definitely given him "advice"

 

[Pinchy]

Of course we must have him back. He used to play for us.

It's the Bladesfans' Way.

 

[DazBlade88]

Another sad thing to consider is you don't know how much was down to Slew. His agent will have definitely given him "advice"

I think his agent had something to do with it, but he definitely thought he was better than he was.

As soon as he got a sniff of first team action, his performances in the U18s dropped because he couldn't be arsed to put the effort in as he thought he'd made it.

The £1.1m we got for him is looking better now, isn't it?

 

[Darren]

Another sad thing to consider is you don't know how much was down to Slew. His agent will have definitely given him "advice"

I never get this idea that footballers will do whatever their agents tell them.

The bottom line is the agent may have said "Jordan, United are paying you £2000 a week, Blackburn are willing to pay you £15,000 a week - what do you want to do?".

Now, it may be that a mature sensible person's response to this would be "hmm, well the money is nice but, I think it wll be better for my long term career if I stay at United and get more experience under my belt", but how many 19 years olds do you know who, when faced with Slew's choice would bot have said "get in, gimme the money".

 

[Billyblade]

I never get this idea that footballers will do whatever their agents tell them.

The bottom line is the agent may have said "Jordan, United are paying you £2000 a week, Blackburn are willing to pay you £15,000 a week - what do you want to do?".

Now, it may be that a mature sensible person's response to this would be "hmm, well the money is nice but, I think it wll be better for my long term career if I stay at United and get more experience under my belt", but how many 19 years olds do you know who, when faced with Slew's choice would bot have said "get in, gimme the money".

There is also the fact that most footballers are as thick as fuck and wouldn't know a decent career decision if they crashed into it in their gold plated Bentleys.

 

[Darren]

There is also the fact that most footballers are as thick as fuck and wouldn't know a decent career decision if they crashed into it in their gold plated Bentleys.

Indeed, but I wouldn't be too harsh on young Jordan. He had no way of knowing how his career would develop and joining Blackburn could have been a good career move. For every Jacob Mellis who chases the big money move as a teenager and then sees his career crash and burn there is a Kyle Walker whos sees his career reach stratospheric heights when he did the same thing.

This analogy has been done to death, but I think there are very few people who, if offered a job by a more highly regarded employer at 7 times their current salary would not have, like Jordan, said "gimmee, gimmee".

 

[diplomat]

If he got offered a 3 year deal at £10k per week at the age of 19 without having proved any degree of consistency I'd say taking it is a good career decision as he could have made more money there than he ever will in the rest of his life.

Footballing wise, perhaps not the wisest decision but he could just have easily become a regular League One sub over the same time frame.

 

[IOM Blade]

I never get this idea that footballers will do whatever their agents tell them.

The bottom line is the agent may have said "Jordan, United are paying you £2000 a week, Blackburn are willing to pay you £15,000 a week - what do you want to do?".

Now, it may be that a mature sensible person's response to this would be "hmm, well the money is nice but, I think it wll be better for my long term career if I stay at United and get more experience under my belt", but how many 19 years olds do you know who, when faced with Slew's choice would bot have said "get in, gimme the money".

Was it £15K a week tho? I'd be very surprised if it was anything like. Seems a hell of a lot for an unproven 19-year-old from league 1 - even for a Prem team with a desperate manager.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

If he got offered a 3 year deal at £10k per week at the age of 19 without having proved any degree of consistency I'd say taking it is a good career decision as he could have made more money there than he ever will in the rest of his life.

Footballing wise, perhaps not the wisest decision but he could just have easily become a regular League One sub over the same time frame.

It's not a good career decision, it's what appears to be a good financial decision. Being at Blackburn on ten grand a week for three years does not guarantee you any first team action or development of your abilities and therefore your career. A good career move would have been another year at our level, with a demand of a loan move if he wasn't getting enough games.

Not playing league matches for three years is not a good career move for a 19 year old.

 

[Darren]

It's not a good career decision, it's what appears to be a good financial decision. Being at Blackburn on ten grand a week for three years does not guarantee you any first team action or development of your abilities and therefore your career. A good career move would have been another year at our level, with a demand of a loan move if he wasn't getting enough games.

Not playing league matches for three years is not a good career move for a 19 year old.

Kyle Walker?

He joined Spurs will less experience than Slew under his belt and didn't make the Spurs first team for some time. Look at him now.

 

[Darren]

Was it £15K a week tho? I'd be very surprised if it was anything like. Seems a hell of a lot for an unproven 19-year-old from league 1 - even for a Prem team with a desperate manager.

Well in 2009-10 the average prem wage was £22,353 a week

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ier-League-wages-FIVE-times-Championship.html

I suspect that was something near £30,000 by 2011-12, so I don't think it unreasonable to think that Slew might be on half the average wage. Even if it was only £10K, thats still probbaly at least 5 times what he was getting at United.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

Kyle Walker?

He joined Spurs will less experience than Slew under his belt and didn't make the Spurs first team for some time. Look at him now.

Kyle Walker made a decision that turned out to be good for his career. Slew made a decision that so far turned out to be a bad one for his career (though it was good for his pocket). Like I said, moving to a bigger club does not guarantee you first team action or career development. At the age of 19, the only good move for your career is one which involves guaranteed first-team action. And Slew's move to Blackburn didn't involve that.

 

[Darren]

Kyle Walker made a decision that turned out to be good for his career. Slew made a decision that so far turned out to be a bad one for his career (though it was good for his pocket). Like I said, moving to a bigger club does not guarantee you first team action or career development. At the age of 19, the only good move for your career is one which involves guaranteed first-team action. And Slew's move to Blackburn didn't involve that.

But Walker's move to Spurs at the age of 19 (even though he didn't have guaranteed first team action there) proved to be a very good one for his career. There is also, I submit, a very strong argument that Slew's move, on the face of it, was the wiser one as an untried 19 year old would have a better chance of breaking into Blackburn's first team than they would at Spurs.

My point is just that you can't be dogmatic about these things. I also think you would have a very long search to find a 19 year old who elected to stay at a third division club when he could have signed for a PL club.

 

[mattbianco1]

I never get this idea that footballers will do whatever their agents tell them.

The bottom line is the agent may have said "Jordan, United are paying you £2000 a week, Blackburn are willing to pay you £15,000 a week - what do you want to do?".

Now, it may be that a mature sensible person's response to this would be "hmm, well the money is nice but, I think it wll be better for my long term career if I stay at United and get more experience under my belt", but how many 19 years olds do you know who, when faced with Slew's choice would bot have said "get in, gimme the money".

So you don't think it's in pretty much all agents interests to keep selling their players on for more cuts of money? Agents are greedier than the footballers IMO

 

[Balham]

Walker's move to Spurs has proved to be a success as he's played first team football pretty much since he left us (back at the Lane on loan, then Villa, then Spurs). Slew's gametime has been limited but perhaps it's telling that we didn't loan him back from Blackburn, where he was put in the "Development Squad" rather than the first team.

Natural talent also plays a part, too.

 

[Darren]

So you don't think it's in pretty much all agents interests to keep selling their players on for more cuts of money? Agents are greedier than the footballers IMO

I am sure it is in the agent's interest to sell players, but it's also in the interests of agents to keep their players. If the agent gives the player crap advice, he will soon find himself sacked and find it difficult to get other players when word gets round about him.

It's not compulsory to have an agent. If players thought agents were shafting them, they wouldn't have them.

 

[Gibbo89]

Jordan Slew was a still a promising but raw talent when he left the Lane. If (?) he'd had any sense or any good advice he'd have stayed for at least a season and continued to learn his craft. On the floor he could be good and at times very good, but couldn't head a ball to save his life. We got a good price. His loss not ours. Would I have him back.... not a prayer.

 

[Latters]

I remember Slew scored a couple before he left but I can't really recall his attributes and I never thought he'd make it at the top levels.

He was small, so not very strong, but he wasn't particularly quick either. Not quick enough to easily out sprint a defender in a race onto a through-ball anyway. He didnt have an amazing shot on him and his first touch was average. I can't say as I was disappointed when he left and I can't see him coming back any time soon.

 

[sitwell]

I thought he was shit ,still do.

 

[KenMcnaughtsNuts]

It's easy to say he made a bad decision moving, but it's entirely possibly he's just not good enough. If that's the case, didn't he make a good decision moving? Better to be stuck in Blackburn's reserves earning a nice bit of bunce than flippin burgers in McDonalds.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

I was told last year that Slew's younger brother was playing for the academy in the year above his age and scoring for fun. For this reason I wouldn't be shocked to see Slew return a la Steve Jagielka.

 

[Bergen Blade]

He was small, so not very strong, but he wasn't particularly quick either.

6'2 and 11.2 at 100 metres.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I remember Slew scored a couple before he left but I can't really recall his attributes and I never thought he'd make it at the top levels.

He was small, so not very strong, but he wasn't particularly quick either. Not quick enough to easily out sprint a defender in a race onto a through-ball anyway. He didnt have an amazing shot on him and his first touch was average. I can't say as I was disappointed when he left and I can't see him coming back any time soon.

Aye, we've had a few of these forwards over the years, that people thought weren't up to the mark after a small number of games (or no games at all), so we sold them:

Clive Mendonca
Kevin Davies
Simon Stainrod
Billy Sharp
Keith Edwards
Imre Varadi

 

[Revolution]

Aye, we've had a few of these forwards over the years, that people thought weren't up to the mark after a small number of games (or no games at all), so we sold them:

Clive Mendonca
Kevin Davies
Simon Stainrod
Billy Sharp
Keith Edwards
Imre Varadi

Funny that we bought 3 of them back, and 2 of them weren't any good the second time around either.

I don't think anyone thought Edwards and Stainrod weren't up to the mark. They were sold because our management of the time didn't know what it was doing, and/or we were skint.

The Varadi money (and Ian Benjamin's fees) were mini Kyles deals - too good to turn down 6 figures after so few games.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Funny that we bought 3 of them back, and 2 of them weren't any good the second time around either.

I don't think anyone thought Edwards and Stainrod weren't up to the mark. They were sold because our management of the time didn't know what it was doing, and/or we were skint.

The Varadi money (and Ian Benjamin's fees) were mini Kyles deals - too good to turn down 6 figures after so few games.

I remember the Varadi deal was quoted as much more than we actually got (Everton, I think) but not sure about the Benjamin deal (West Brom?) which was listed at £100,000. There were plenty around who thought Stainrod was a 'Fancy Dan' and wouldn't make it and that Edwards was a 'lazy, nesh git' who was just a goal-hanger, but the management at the time was a total shambles and any bid was accepted for anybody.

 

[Darren]

I remember the Varadi deal was quoted as much more than we actually got (Everton, I think) but not sure about the Benjamin deal (West Brom?) which was listed at £100,000. There were plenty around who thought Stainrod was a 'Fancy Dan' and wouldn't make it and that Edwards was a 'lazy, nesh git' who was just a goal-hanger, but the management at the time was a total shambles and any bid was accepted for anybody.

To be fair, Stainrod had been a first team player for 3 years before we sold him. He made his debut in March 76 and we flogged him to Oldham in March 79, so he had plenty of time to show what he could do. Over that period he was in and out of the team and amongst others Edwards, Guthrie, Campbell, Anderson and Finnieston had all been preferred to him. The fact that he went to fellow 2nd Division struglers Oldham shows that he wasn't that highly rated when he left and his career only really started taking off after he left United.