Jordan Slew

[Flatulent_Bob]

4-5k a week if ched evans is on 20k then am sure slew is worth a quarter of that.

You are aware that we are trying to reduce our wage bill.

What other players are on is totally irrelevant as they won't be on that in 12 months time because they will be sold or not offered a new deal.

5K should be what the more experienced first teamers should be getting not someone who just come in.

Crazy

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He will turn 1k a week down flat and i wouldn't blame him either.

Why should Slew get more than a player who's come through the academy and played full season in the first team?

We need to reduce the wage bill to a realistic level and you are throwing 5K at an unproven kid. 5K in league one FFS.

 

[lingsbord]

My view is this: Let's say you tear up his contract and start again on £5k a week for 3 years. First thing is he's interested because of the money. Second, his wages would only add up to £250k for the season which is peanuts when you have no "fee" to pay. Third, you satisfy him by promising that any PL club that comes in will automatically be allowed to open negotiations providing the minimum price offer has been met (like the Jags deal). That way, the onus is on a) the player to maximise his attractiveness to clubs higher up the ladder by scoring a bagful, and b) the scum-sucking agent of his to go out and sell him to the highest bidder in 12 months time when he's proven himself to be a genuine prospect.

This is surely the perfect solution and avoids Rankine holding the club to ransom by threatening to have Slew sign for Celtic under a different FA - therefore NO FEE to SUFC, in 12 months time. ????

 

[JohnDenver]

I don't know what to think. Where's lenners when I need him?

 

[Jehovah]

I think people may be getting a little carried away with regards to the quality of Slew.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I think people may be getting a little carried away with regards to the quality of Slew.

Including himself

 

[davidpinder]

You are aware that we are trying to reduce our wage bill.

What other players are on is totally irrelevant as they won't be on that in 12 months time because they will be sold or not offered a new deal.

5K should be what the more experienced first teamers should be getting not someone who just come in.

Crazy

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Why should Slew get more than a player who's come through the academy and played full season in the first team?

We need to reduce the wage bill to a realistic level and you are throwing 5K at an unproven kid. 5K in league one FFS.

Yes i am aware of the wage bill and we should be quite happy to get rid of a 20k a week man and replace him with 5k (15k saving works for me). I am sure if you ask many blades fans they would agree slew is worth more than 1k a week.

 

[grafikhaus]

I think people may be getting a little carried away with regards to the quality of Slew.

Exactamundo.

Slew is 'rawness' personified and he could go either way in the near future.

Similarly, Naughton is too frail to make an impact at this stage in his career.

Walker? Said it after Wembley. The real deal and will make Jags look like a good bit of business.

 

[davidpinder]

I think people may be getting a little carried away with regards to the quality of Slew.

I don't i am trying to put forward reasons to keep slew, he scored a few goals at the end of the season and showed quality we are in league 1 now and need a goalscorer and he is exactly that. So we sell slew and get a bag of shit in return on a free am sure fans will be happy will that.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Here's a solution - if Fulham dont meet our valuation, keep him for the remainder of his contract and let him walk for nothing at the end of the season.

If he's scored 25 or more and gets us promoted we've had our money's worth and his stock is still high. He gets his move and everyone's a winner.

If he does nothing and we release him, United have lost nothing more than a fee they weren't prepared to accept a year earlier.

Its a case of "You're not going anywhere until Fulham meet our valuation son. So you had better score some goals and keep them interested. They can have you for free then."

Problem solved

 

[lingsbord]

Patrick because of his age, even if he walks at the end of the season we still get a fee, so holding him to his contract might be the best way forward. Maybe increase his appearance fee to make him feel wanted though.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I don't i am trying to put forward reasons to keep slew, he scored a few goals at the end of the season and showed quality we are in league 1 now and need a goalscorer and he is exactly that. So we sell slew and get a bag of shit in return on a free am sure fans will be happy will that.

You can't put a price on potential though dp. At this moment in time, his value can only be based on his age and what he's achieved. Tottenham considered Kyle N worth more than Kyle W purely because he had more experience and had been seen in more games. A lot of people on here rated Kyle W the better player and 2 years on that seems to be the case but no-one knew for definite at the time. Having said that, it seems as though KM has put a similar £3M price tag on Slew, that remains to be seen.

What's he worth paying in terms of wages, that's a tough one. As others have said, because he's had a good run in the youth team and scored a couple in the 1st team, does that put him ahead of Philliskirk who's learnt his trade at Chelsea or McAllister who has done his time in the Irish League ? I'd hazard a guess that they'll just about earn £5K a week between them next season and are likely to be squad regulars if not 1st teamers.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Patrick because of his age, even if he walks at the end of the season we still get a fee, so holding him to his contract might be the best way forward. Maybe increase his appearance fee to make him feel wanted though.

The same thing just crossed my mind and I was going to ask the question. Is it under 21's that applies to?

 

[lingsbord]

yes mate - not sure if it goes to tribunal or if there are set guidelines, but whatever happens he doesn't walk for nowt. Rankine would love it hahahahahaha

 

[raul]

Textbook so far....

The only reason people were in the car park after Wilson and not Superblade was the Youth Cup run. Superblade, being the master politician he is, is all over the story, it being the only one in which the club can be painted in a good light and is making all the right noises about them being the future of the club. Bid in, rejected firmly, good job well done.

So, it's all text book so far.

Stand by, over the next few days, for some stories from club plants/pesky agents leaking out on message boards about "Bad attitude/can't wait to get away/called Pembo a wanker" and watch public opinion change to "fuck him then,who does he think he is/another good deal by the club/what if he gets injured next season (my personal favourite)"

Club sells, mininmal protest - and what there is discounted as the usual whingers - and the monies disappear as we "couldn't find anyone better than what we have at such short notice" and all is conveniently forgotten come the following transfer window.

Isn't this what always happens?

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

and if we'd been knocked out of the Youth Cup in Round 2, Cresswell had remained fit and young Jordan hadn't got a game, he could have drifted off to Rothrum for £50K this month and no-one would have batted an eyelid

 

[Wards]

We shouldn't be paying anyone 5 grand a week in division 3.

Plus, I really don't think Slew is good enough for that kind of outlay, in my opinion of course.

And remember, we don't HAVE to sign journeymen on big contracts. There are plenty of young players out there who wouldn't be demanding big money, dare I say they may have actually proven themselves to a point - unlike Mr Slew.

Gambling 5k a week on an 18 yr old kid who wasn't really pulling up any trees in the youths or reserves up till the past few months is financial suicide.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

We shouldn't be paying anyone 5 grand a week in division 3.

.....and yet we will be, about half the squad!

 

[mattbianco1]

A very lucid and well structured argument. Just one thing.....since when has any football club been run like a proper business?

Players with any sort of half decent reputation or regard always hold a bargaining position.

Maybe if more were then we wouldn't have teams like Portsmouth, Coventry, Cardiff, Sheffield Wednesday etc. over spending and risk going bust.

We ran our club like a business for years and got to the premier league after running a very tight wage structure. We got promoted, got relegated and forgot all of the hard work put in for the previous 5 or 6 years and go gung-ho like a kid in a sweet shop with a twenty pound note signing players for £4m & £2m paying stupid wages and look where we end up !

League 1 & skint... McDonald out !

 

[oldblade]

A very lucid and well structured argument. Just one thing.....since when has any football club been run like a proper business?

Players with any sort of half decent reputation or regard always hold a bargaining position.

When we were run like a business and had much tighter control of our spending on wages we were in a much better league (and financial) position than we are now.

We are a fine example of how throwing money around doesn't necessarily bring success, and can lead you to being in a worse position than where you started.

 

[Kenilworth]

Blackpool had a cap of £10k / week for players in the prem so there's no way an unproven 18 year old warrants £5k pw in Div 3
If he is demanding that then he is clearly engineering a move with Rankine giving him the ££s in his eyes.
If he goes to a prem club then he will only be up a bench warmer (a development squad player) and wonder what happend to his football.

Sadly it appears that the only factor being considered by all players these days is the money.
Guess it's the key factor related to the quality of the WAG you can shag

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Maybe if more were then we wouldn't have teams like Portsmouth, Coventry, Cardiff, Sheffield Wednesday etc. over spending and risk going bust.

We ran our club like a business for years and got to the premier league after running a very tight wage structure. We got promoted, got relegated and forgot all of the hard work put in for the previous 5 or 6 years and go gung-ho like a kid in a sweet shop with a twenty pound note signing players for £4m & £2m paying stupid wages and look where we end up !

League 1 & skint... McDonald out !

When we were run like a business and had much tighter control of our spending on wages we were in a much better league (and financial) position than we are now.

We are a fine example of how throwing money around doesn't necessarily bring success, and can lead you to being in a worse position than where you started.

I dont disagree with either of you.....but what I'm saying is football club's haven't been managed like proper businesses for decades. Spending is totally out of control and it has been for a long time. Almost all clubs operate with some sort of debt because NONE of them are truly living within their means. If any one football league club did start to live within its means it would tumble down the football league as the rest continued to out spend them.

To be successful in football you have to speculate. I'm not saying its right, but its a fact. Some will gamble and blow it, some will gamble and get lucky. The Premier League has caused it and continues to push the financial boundaries further and further. It has become a closed shop that you might be allowed entry to every now and again but only if you're willing to risk the financial future of your club.

When we were "run properly" our supporters accused the club of lacking ambition and that we needed to invest in quality players to get us back to where we belong. The directors were accused of being tight fisted and cautious. Now we've seen the damage a bit of spending can do, everyone is up in arms about how badly managed we have been and how we're an example of why football clubs shouldn't speculate with their finances. Supporters want it both ways. The structure of our national games doesnt allow it.

 

[oldblade]

Not all our supporters felt that way. I remember many posters stating the truth of the time - that it was the best board we'd had in probably the last 40-50 years.

For several years we were living within our means and did not tumble down the leagues. It is only since we stopped living within our means that we have become a club on the slide.

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He will turn 1k a week down flat and i wouldn't blame him either.

He's an 18 year old with 5 league games behind him. Yes, he's promising. But as far as I'm concerned, £1000 a week is a substantial wage for someone who is at the equivalent stage of his footballing career as someone who's just out of his apprenticeship. It's no wonder many clubs are in financial trouble if they consider paying 5 times that for someone at his stage of development.

We should not allow ourselves to be pushed or panicked into offering him more. If that's not enough, too bad. He is under contract until the end of this coming season, and we will still be entitled to a fee when his contract expires.

 

[Vancouver]

Blackpool had a cap of £10k / week for players in the prem so there's no way an unproven 18 year old warrants £5k pw in Div 3
If he is demanding that then he is clearly engineering a move with Rankine giving him the ££s in his eyes.
If he goes to a prem club then he will only be up a bench warmer (a development squad player) and wonder what happend to his football.

Sadly it appears that the only factor being considered by all players these days is the money.
Guess it's the key factor related to the quality of the WAG you can shag

I'm not disagreeing with the overall sentiment but clearly Blackpool's pay limit didn't work for them as they weren't able to sign players good enough to keep them in the Premiership. It's fine having these laudable goals but in reality it resulted in their relegation albeit incredibly close.

 

[mattbianco1]

I'm not disagreeing with the overall sentiment but clearly Blackpool's pay limit didn't work for them as they weren't able to sign players good enough to keep them in the Premiership. It's fine having these laudable goals but in reality it resulted in their relegation albeit incredibly close.

Yes but think how much money they'll have next season when they get promoted!

Got an extremely good squad now for championship level so should have a great chance of going up. If so, the money they saved this year plus the £50m+ for going up again will enable them to bring in enough good players to keep them in the top flight for years.

If they do a United and spend big and dont go up they're screwed