Jim Phipps interview
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Pinchy
Blade, not Bladey.
Pinchy
Blade, not Bladey.
vorpal blade
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Yes Phipps comes over as intelligent, with a sense of humour, and honest too.
BTW Where did this Glossop-phobia get mentioned? I did used to feel a bit funny having got over the Snake Pass having avoided all the snakes only to get stuck in traffic jams all the way to Mankchester.
BTW Where did this Glossop-phobia get mentioned? I did used to feel a bit funny having got over the Snake Pass having avoided all the snakes only to get stuck in traffic jams all the way to Mankchester.
SwissBlade
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I missed out a vital 'not' in my last post
SwissBlade
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Some of us were prepared to sit it out with Weir until it came good. Now that we've blown that we need a manager to stabilise us for this season.
Pinchy
Blade, not Bladey.
I've just seen and heard the two interviews. I agree he is very impressive. I'm comforted to hear there will be 'adjustments' but no compromise on the core footballing principles. He was rightly dismissive (almost wryly contemptuous) of 'long ball tactics'. The Hoofers will, no doubt, be in despair. For the rest of us, the message is loud and clear - the dinosaur days are over.
I think those who doubt the strength and reality of the Prince Abdulla factor can be reassured after hearing what JP has to say. It's apparent there is now a clear headed commitment to Project Blades and the means are there to carry it through.
Now comes the difficult bit!
Pinchy
Blade, not Bladey.
If a victory delivered Morgan as manager? You bet. As a manager or coach, he is rhubarb. He'll be on his way before the end of the season and quite right too.
SwissBlade
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Fair enough Pinchy but how long do we continue with the footballing principles and sacking manager after manager. I believe time is the biggest issue. We either give the managers the time to let their team develop or it'll never work. Sacking a manager after 10 games of a new season (which followed a dreadful end to the last) isn't giving time.
Do we now bring another manager in to play just 10 games and if he doesn't do well sack him as well?
I think this season is already gone in many ways. Weir was probably working hard to get things working and for whatever reason it didnt work out. Is that because he was a bad manager, coach, motivator or was it that he couldn't work miracles in two months? I'd suggest the latter.
So now I fear for the clubs stability, I fear that we have a bigger risk now because we sacked Weir. Motivation and Morale will be rock bottom and without a man who can stabilise and motivate it doesn't matter whether we play tippy tappy or hoof.
Do we now bring another manager in to play just 10 games and if he doesn't do well sack him as well?
I think this season is already gone in many ways. Weir was probably working hard to get things working and for whatever reason it didnt work out. Is that because he was a bad manager, coach, motivator or was it that he couldn't work miracles in two months? I'd suggest the latter.
So now I fear for the clubs stability, I fear that we have a bigger risk now because we sacked Weir. Motivation and Morale will be rock bottom and without a man who can stabilise and motivate it doesn't matter whether we play tippy tappy or hoof.
sheffielder
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Weir shouldn't have been trying to work miracles, he was supposed to be managing the team, but was trying to do a Director of Football type job (which he's probably more suited to) to create a revolution in the way we play and ignoring the primary point of his job. He simply didn't deserve any more time because he was a total failure, time wouldn't have changed anything, except how far behind we were.
He's maybe not a bad coach, he's clearly read all his textbooks on perfect theoretical tactics that ignore the opponents ability to adapt theirs and that's fine for youth team football where there's time to get the basics right, no fans and results don't matter, but that approach is completely wrong for a league team. Motivation and morale are rock bottom because of Weir so dumping him can't make things worse.
Constantly changing managers isn't a good thing, but sacking Weir was 100% the right thing to do (as long as Morgan doesn't get the job).
He's maybe not a bad coach, he's clearly read all his textbooks on perfect theoretical tactics that ignore the opponents ability to adapt theirs and that's fine for youth team football where there's time to get the basics right, no fans and results don't matter, but that approach is completely wrong for a league team. Motivation and morale are rock bottom because of Weir so dumping him can't make things worse.
Constantly changing managers isn't a good thing, but sacking Weir was 100% the right thing to do (as long as Morgan doesn't get the job).
SwissBlade
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If the club believed that he was a huge part of both the stability and the progress of the club, then yes.
We've now gone through three managers in 6 months, the new guy coming in will be no 4. Considering that 3 of those 6 months have involved no competitive football then it's hardly a model for stability
Again, if the new guy coming in emulates Weirs results record, do we also get rid again?
sheffielder
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SwissBlade
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But you'll never get any stability in the club and we'll keep sinking.
The seasons pretty much gone now, barring a miracle.
The football gods are working within our club
super_pig
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this club is capable of some of the weirdest shit .. i wouldn't be surprised if something bonkers happened
Jim Chimmerney
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JP also said that he wanted to carry on Weir's work so it's unlikely they're going to appoint anyone that doesn't have a reputation for playing a similar way. I don't think Clough's teams are that famed for playing passing football in fact they seem to be like him, non-descript and without identity.
sheffielder
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1 win in 10 league games with performances getting worse and heavy dressing room unrest is time to make changes. I don't expect the new guy to come in and be flying however I expect a squad with unity (whether they get on or not) with a common goal of getting out of the relegation slots and hopefully a run to the play offs after a bit of strengthening.
This is why I am heavily against managers such as Pulis and Keane as they are likely to make things worse before they get better. our players are playing like girls already without one of these putting the fear of god into them. We have a good team with some of the best players in the division. This decision is huge, however I wouldn't hesitate against sacking anyone again if they can't get to grips with the situation. This isn't a game anymore
Jim Chimmerney
Can hear the 'Cod Army' roar from his back garden
This is the problem, we could also end up in a Di Canio situation, short term fix but not the long term solution.
Back to the interview, they wanted to keep him but results forced their hand but the fact remains that it's a still as much a gamble to replace him as it was to keep him.
sheffielder
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I don't think this was a gamble as you may think to get rid of him. JP alluded to the problems behind the scenes when he was explaining how we were bringing in players too quickly which was causing great unrest with the players already here. He said if we had 6 more points than we had now then we probably wouldn't have pulled the plug, however performances were getting worse and we were left with no choice.
More stories will come out in the next few months to how bad things got, however you can read into the squad being locked in the dressing room for the last 3/4 games to have a clue.
1973_Blade
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I thought JP came across very well, especially in the Radio Sheff interview. It seems that we may have finally found some people who are capable of making the right decisions at the right time. As much as I wanted Weir to succeed and never being a 'knocker' as such I saw that after Tuesday night's performance the writing was on the wall.
All I hope is that the Prince and JP will be able to have a major input into this appointment and get the right man for the time. McCabe and co have shown that they have made too many mistakes and need some better guidance. It did seem that JP was saying that mistakes were made in the past by the club and he and the Prince won't let them happen again. Let's hope for the sake of the club and all our sanity that it does go right - it seems that everything that could have gone pear shaped since our last season in the Prem has.
All I hope is that the Prince and JP will be able to have a major input into this appointment and get the right man for the time. McCabe and co have shown that they have made too many mistakes and need some better guidance. It did seem that JP was saying that mistakes were made in the past by the club and he and the Prince won't let them happen again. Let's hope for the sake of the club and all our sanity that it does go right - it seems that everything that could have gone pear shaped since our last season in the Prem has.
Jim Chimmerney
Can hear the 'Cod Army' roar from his back garden
I meant a gamble in terms of a new man not making any difference, particularly if the problems are as deep seated as some are saying. We could be in a situation 4 or 5 games down the line, having gone through more disruption, and no better off in terms of league position.
Having said that, you'd like to think that someone should be able to get more out of Murphy, Brandy, Baxter, Taylor etc who should be producing more than they have been as a group.
BladeFisher
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What miracles did he have to deliver ffs?
In Wilson's post Blackman tenure, when he also lost Miller, he only lost 3 games out of 13, securing 22 points. Over a season that would yield 77 points - play off positions! Jeez what do you want?
There was nothing fundamentally wrong that a bit of tweaking would not have resolved. Instead we dismantle that team and create a mirage, 'the best set of players in League 1' and they're joint bottom of the league!! The managerial team was clearly shite and I am delighted Weir has gone. If Weir was good then Danny Wilson was a genius so let's get him back quick as clearly Weir only failed 'cos he inherited 'a crock of shit'!
No Weir failed because he was not good enough.
BladeFisher
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It didn't go wrong in season 2011-12 until Ched got an attack of misdickeritus. Until he got this, which was totally self inflicted (and some argue was passed on to the jury) we were storming. Hey, ho.
sheffielder
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I think people re-write history when it comes to the Ched Evans story. If Ched hadn't been arrested he would have been sold to Reading for £1m and the money would not have been re-invested. As he was arrested nobody would take his contract on.
To add to this, because he was arrested he was put under Chris Morgan watch and his lifestyle changed. So even if he had not been arrested he would probably been the shit wanker we had for 2 years previously.
As for the Blades, we would have been in the play offs, but boy we were shite without the 'new ched evan's. Too much gloss has been put on that season which would not have been so 'good' without Ched being arrested.
Our problem was that we didn't beat either of the top 2 home or away and unfortunately this is the only FACT about the whole saga.
BladeFisher
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Well if we had lost the Battle of Britain then.....
.... and we only won because the Germans 'accidentally' bombed the London docks and Churchill ordered a retaliatory raid on Berlin...
...and if the lookouts on the Titanic had had access to a pair of binoculars.....
how much re-writing of 'factual' history do you want?
Isn't our pretty dramatic fall from grace enough without glossing over the better bits because it doesn't sound as bad as you would have liked it?
Let's stick to what actually happened rather than pure conjecture.
sheffielder
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Well if we had lost the Battle of Britain then.....
.... and we only won because the Germans 'accidentally' bombed the London docks and Churchill ordered a retaliatory raid on Berlin...
...and if the lookouts on the Titanic had had access to a pair of binoculars.....
how much re-writing of 'factual' history do you want?
Isn't our pretty dramatic fall from grace enough without glossing over the better bits because it doesn't sound as bad as you would have liked it?
Let's stick to what actually happened rather than pure conjecture.
As I said, the only pure fact we have is that we didn't beat the top 2 home or away
BladeFisher
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As I said, the only pure fact we have is that we didn't beat the top 2 home or away
So what, if we hadn't had lost to Oldham/MK we would have got promoted. It's what you do over a season that matters not whether you beat the top two or not.
sheffielder
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You don't deserve to finish in the top 2 if you can't beat the top 2 is what I am saying. I am sure both Charlton and the pigs can point at shit games they lost
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