CONFIRMED JCR on Loan to Notts County

[Bladesway]

Before anyone starts on banging on about Nigel and race, what Colour is O'Grady his number one target for the last 18 months?

Was anyone about to?

 

[itsinyerblood]

Was anyone about to?

Now far be it from me to add to this matter....but could anyone expand on the question of what race is meant to be? Aren't we members of the human race, period?

Beyond that, any other question is a nonsense isn't it?

 

[OllyBlade]

It's a temporary loan so he may well feature for us again before the end of the season. This way we aren't carrying any passengers, or helping anyone get back into form. County can do that for us. I am a bit surprised but the recent upturn in form has been without him featuring much at all so let's see what happens.

 

[alcoblade]

Before anyone starts on banging on about Nigel and race, what Colour is O'Grady his number one target for the last 18 months?

Before anyone builds a straw man, you're going to buy some matches?



UTB

 

[brownie4583]

Strange decision for me unless a replacement is coming in.
JCR can make things happen,although inconsistent,and we have looked a lot less threatening when he is not in the team.
I don't agree that Freeman,Davies or Coutts are better options on the right.

 

[metalblade]

Strange decision for me unless a replacement is coming in.
JCR can make things happen,although inconsistent,and we have looked a lot less threatening when he is not in the team.
I don't agree that Freeman,Davies or Coutts are better options on the right.

Flynn is though

 

[brownie4583]

Flynn is though

Maybe but he has been pretty inconsistent also in the past

 

[Revolution]

My thoughts on this:

1. If a bad month is enough to get you shipped out, Scougall should have gone out on loan in September and Flynn should have gone some time in 2012.

2. I agree with the previous poster. Flynn is inconsistent. He plays well on the wing about once every 5 or 6 games. He scores less than JCR and creates less than JCR. Plus he will not beat a man and go to the byline, like JCR will. And Done has shown us that if people go to the byline, he'll get on the end of crosses. Oh well. I hope Murph keeps playing well.

3. My big problem with this is that JCR offered something different. He scores a few goals. He torments full backs. He'll run at defenders. None of our other right midfielders possess all of these qualities (and Flynn doesn't possess any of them).

Odd move for me, unless someone is coming in. I'd rather have JCR starting even 1 in 3 games and coming off the bench than, say, keeping K Wallace around for what seems like no good reason at all.

Good luck JCR. I enjoyed your contribution.

 

[Jehovah]

I'm really surprised the support this move has got. JCR has had a bad month but prior to that was literally a match winner and was MOTM in a few games. We have no other player that tries to beat his man as much as him, other than maybe Murphy. Saying Coutts is a better option doesn't make any sense to me as he has no chance of beating a man from what I've seen, Coutts would only be stronger defensively. The more I've thought about it, the less this makes sense. Also JCR May not be very consistent, but he's more consistent than Flynn.

 

[KingSlayers]

I'm really surprised the support this move has got. JCR has had a bad month but prior to that was literally a match winner and was MOTM in a few games. We have no other player that tries to beat his man as much as him, other than maybe Murphy. Saying Coutts is a better option doesn't make any sense to me as he has no chance of beating a man from what I've seen, Coutts would only be stronger defensively. The more I've thought about it, the less this makes sense. Also JCR May not be very consistent, but he's more consistent than Flynn.

If he goes there and does his bit in taking points from promotion contenders then we don't much that could help us and it could be the difference between play offs and automatic. Unfortunately, it's a risk and the flair he brings to games will definitely be missed, we've yet to find out how much.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Kind of surprised at the outrage on here given his match ratings on this site this month:
4.21
2.67
4.76
4.68

Hauled off at half time in the last match, although he's exactly the type of player you would sacrife at 10 men. Probably translates to exactly the type of player Clough would lose patience with as well.

I do agree though, he's a good option for the bench because he might have it in him to change a game.

Agree that his form hasn't been the best, but he did set up Doyle for a sitter vs Coventry (the ball possibly took an unexpected bounce before Doyle kicked air). After the sending off it was quite hard for a winger to find someone with a cross as we were bound to get fewer players in the box, and he was rightly sacrificed at half time.

 

[Balham]

It seems to me that JCR's problem is Brayford coming in. The Beard is an attacking full back whose game involves getting forward, linking with and getting past the right midfielder. That works fine when the player on the right is a wide midfielder (Flynn, Davies. Coutts) but less so when it's an orthodox winger like JCR. The plan is evidently to get Brayford forwards as much as possible and playing one of the three wide midfielders (or Freeman) helps that more than JCR.

I think that County's fixture list over the remainder of the season has probably played its part too.

 

[grafikhaus]

This feels like Deane and Fjørtoft all over again.

Given I ripped up my ST, chucked it away and didn't watch United for 3 years after this infamous day in Blades history, I rather doubt that J C-R will cause me to lose much sleep.

His performance at home to Rochdale was one of the best I have seen from a Blades player for a long time.

Yes, he was good in that game and United were very fortunate to win - Rochdale smashing a shot off the bar at 0-0. J C-R scored his first goal for the Blades, a lad called Done played for the Dale and the visitors were impressive. BUT that was almost 6 months ago, personnel have changed and Jamail's performance was simply not repeated often enough.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

coutts is a far more effective player than JCR he is a team player who plays with is head up JCR on his day can be a matchwinner but is inconsistant he will be back if it is going to be the play offs and as an impact player could be important
coutts is in a different league to JCR

I'm sure Coutts is Finlay, just looking forward to when he starts to show it.

 

[crucialkneeligaman]

We all know that Uniteds way of attacking is a slow laborious build up, too many time JCR was spoiling it. Just cannot see the sense in this loan deal.

 

[borbokis]

I was very surprised with this but with but I'm presuming JCR wasn't happy to be on the bench.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

It seems to me that JCR's problem is Brayford coming in. The Beard is an attacking full back whose game involves getting forward, linking with and getting past the right midfielder. That works fine when the player on the right is a wide midfielder (Flynn, Davies. Coutts) but less so when it's an orthodox winger like JCR. The plan is evidently to get Brayford forwards as much as possible and playing one of the three wide midfielders (or Freeman) helps that more than JCR.

I think that County's fixture list over the remainder of the season has probably played its part too.

I see similar things to you - reckon Brayford and Harris will be given license to both get beyond their midfield counterpart.

Bash/Doyle/Coutts - with any 2 of these 3 or even all 3 sat deep and protecting the centre halves.

This is much more similar to 2nd half of last season where to be fair we had great, if not spectacular success. What it does give us, and R'dale proved it, is that we are much more solid down the middle - strong core as some like to call it.

As long as it gets the desired results.

UTB

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

I like JCR. That said I have only every seen Rob Kozluk put worse crosses in.

Ah, Koz. Fond memories ! His shooting was horrific too. No-one could combine a Row Z-er with a corner flag-er like Koz. Though there have certainly been a few credible challengers for his crown in recent years

 

[Davie Blade]

I can be sure without even looking that t'owd len will insinuate that the move is ethnicity related (although that logic didn't apply when he arrived of course). He reckons that De Girolamo is on his way out because he's "foreignish", so anything is possible with JCR.

De Girolamo

Fecking Derbyshire bastards.

 

[Woodwardfan]

It seems to me that JCR's problem is Brayford coming in. The Beard is an attacking full back whose game involves getting forward, linking with and getting past the right midfielder. That works fine when the player on the right is a wide midfielder (Flynn, Davies. Coutts) but less so when it's an orthodox winger like JCR. The plan is evidently to get Brayford forwards as much as possible and playing one of the three wide midfielders (or Freeman) helps that more than JCR.

I think that County's fixture list over the remainder of the season has probably played its part too.

Exactly, and that man wide will likely be Coutts. It worked for Clough at Derby.

Strangely, at present Coutts seems a most unlikely wide player, but it's early days fitness-wise. Also there are different ways of playing. If it gives Murphy more licence to push upfield all well and good.

 

[stringjunior]

We have no other player that tries to beat his man as much as him

This is the problem for me. Granted I don't get to go every week, but from what I've seen he tries too much trickery to beat his man, often several times when once is sufficient, then puts in a poor cross.

I understand the comments about him being quick, exciting and a game changer, but 5 minutes after his introduction I find my excitement is replaced by frustration. I'd rather have a more consistent crosser of a ball than a showboater.

He clearly has a part to play in the rest of our season and I wish him well.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[JJ Sefton]

Nigel is managing the team, but also playing Chess.

We may win our remaining games, but unless others slip up, we cannot gain Autos.

Giving Notts Co JCR, will make our make competitors a little apprehensive about pushing everyone forward. If they push on, they could easily be caught out. It may cause a more cautious approach as JCR tends to take on several players and therefore result in draws. That is the hope anyway.

Getting Done was another good Chess move to take out a team in the playoffs and gain a good striker.

Finally, in my opinion, the flying fullbacks in Harris and Brayford have changed our fortunes as they overlap very well. Flynn, Davies, Freeman and Coutts all link up better with the Beard and understand his intentions, so it puts JCR 5th in the list for me.

Well, Operation Campell-Ryce didn't get off to much of a start...

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