Jayden Bogle

[tincan]

Enda's confidence hasn't been right since the Liverpool 2 0 tonking. Since then he's been on the slide. He is class though and so it's just for CWAK to remind him of not just the hard work but the pass intelligence and arrogance that got him to the PL on merit.

 

[Latters]

Robinson is a decent defender but doesn't have the abilities JOC does, I like Osborn but he does have the quality that fleck does, and Enda is out of form/low on confidence.

Robinson is a Championship level defender. He really isn’t good enough for this level. I agree with you about Enda’s form. He’s probably also suffering from having to do more defensive work while we’re missing O’Connell. If he’s having to concentrate a lot harder on the defensive side of his game, it’ll probably be causing mental fatigue, as well as physical.

I’m a fan of Osbourne. We could easily get away with having him in the team if everyone else was playing to the best of their abilities.

The above, though, leads me to our problem, which I believe is that we have too many players that aren’t quite at the technical and mental level required for the Premier League, so everybody has to be at 100%. They’re great characters with all the determination you could ask for, but they’re the sort of players that the better teams could carry if they had one or two of them, but not a full squad. If you have a team full, they all have to play out of their skins and as a unit every week just to get a result. Unfortunately our lack of fitness and form means we aren’t currently doing that like we were for the first two thirds or maybe three quarters of last season.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

Anyone seen him ?

Do you ever stop?

 

[BushBlade]

Sometimes when players lose form, a manager tries to play them through it, particularly ones that have been very reliable in the past. At some point though, if they’re not getting through it and improving, they have to be rested.

Getting that balance right is what keeps the squad harmony. If a manager drops players because they have a bad game, the other players start to wonder if he knows what he’s doing, too much chopping and changing makes a manager look indecisive and it can appear to the players that they’re being hung out to dry. Similarly, sticking with players for too long can have a similar effect, especially on the ones who aren’t getting into the team who are thinking ‘what do I have to do? My rival for my position is playing shit, why’s he still getting a game?’ until it spreads to the first team who get sick of losing and also start wondering why certain players keep getting picked.

It’s one of the complexities of management and, like most things in football, and life, it’s about getting the balance right. I can see why CW puts a lot of trust in the regular first team because, over the last couple of seasons they’ve been brilliant for us. But he’s got some big decisions to make.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Problem playing Stevens at LCB is that he isn't great in the air. Basham or Ampadu aren't brilliant either. I suspect Wilder will want someone who can offer us protection from set pieces other than Egan etc.

True but were not in the championship we dont get balls pumped up in the air

 

[Pedro Verde]

Robinson is a Championship level defender. He really isn’t good enough for this level. I agree with you about Enda’s form. He’s probably also suffering from having to do more defensive work while we’re missing O’Connell. If he’s having to concentrate a lot harder on the defensive side of his game, it’ll probably be causing mental fatigue, as well as physical

I dont think you blame Stevens poor form on the loss of JOC and him having to do more defending and covering for Robinson. Hes been underperforming for months especially after lockdown
I think hes good enough for LCB but his lack of height would be a problem as we havent been great at defending set pieces / crosses into the box

 

[CaptainMorgans]

True but were not in the championship we dont get balls pumped up in the air

Wolves, Leeds, Villa & Arsenal have all scored direct from headers against us. Granted, some have been from set plays but your centre halves usually defend these.

Leeds also attacked us with crosses from wide in between Stevens and Robinson. Bamford had free headers a couple of times before he eventually scored from one.

 

[Latters]

I dont think you blame Stevens poor form on the loss of JOC and him having to do more defending and covering for Robinson. Hes been underperforming for months especially after lockdown
I think hes good enough for LCB but his lack of height would be a problem as we havent been great at defending set pieces / crosses into the box

Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m not blaming it solely on that; just identifying it as a contributing factor, of which there are a few. He’s a year older, the team in general aren’t playing as well as they were, and he might just be out of form. It happens. It’s just unfortunate for us that it’s coincided with others being unfit, injured or out of form at the same time.

I’d be happy to play Stevens at LCB, but we’d need the likes of Berge and McBurnie to do their bit at set pieces at both ends of the pitch. McBurnie often helps us defensively in the air, but Berge needs to work on this, given his height.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Perhaps we would have been better off if that 7 subs rule had been accepted for this season...

Then We could at least get him on the bench. We have very few options to change things up when re go behind, no attacking midfielders for example. Seems like a more attacking right back would be something we could use when desperate for a goal.

perhaps we should sack off a sub keeper - likewarnock used to do.

 

[guancheblade]

Agreed, Stevens is not great in the air but he does have the ability to start/join attacks.
I think he is a better fit than Robinson with Lowe at wing back. We then require Fleck to regain some form and things are looking up.
Finding a quality left cb from the EFL to play O'Connell's specific role is a long shot.

Jake Cooper. Ready made replacement

 

[guancheblade]

perhaps we should sack off a sub keeper - likewarnock used to do.

Just make sure Jags is on the bench then if we do that!

 

[Digger]

Jake Cooper. Ready made replacement

Agreed, but is he affordable?. Would certainly help combat the ariel threat

 

[FriethBlade]

Gone to Villa

Nah they signed a right back who is in their first 11...just saying before I get shot down as I love George to death

 

[guancheblade]

Agreed, but is he affordable?. Would certainly help combat the ariel threat

I'm sure wages wise it'd be fine. However its Reading who as we know play hard ball over the transfer fee, and with them riding high in the champ at the moment, it could be even more difficult to convince them to let the big lad go.

But this kid has everything we need for the LCB role at SUFC.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

If you notice that dogs nob are you a bad person ?

It's ok to notice it ........




Anyway, poor dog looks bloody fed up!

 

[BushBlade]

I'm sure wages wise it'd be fine. However its Reading who as we know play hard ball over the transfer fee, and with them riding high in the champ at the moment, it could be even more difficult to convince them to let the big lad go.

But this kid has everything we need for the LCB role at SUFC.

Surely it’s got nowt to do with them? He left in 2017 to go to Millwall.

 

[guancheblade]

Surely it’s got nowt to do with them? He left in 2017 to go to Millwall.

Apologies, brain fart!

In that case, what you waiting for Wilder?? Gerrim in