Jan Van Winckel

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s4-blade said:
Wilder (supported by McCabes people) prevented him from getting his role as Director of Football. But from his position as technical director, he of cause does still have some power and input. Unfortunately.
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He won’t have any input or effect on the team whatsoever. Like I asked though, what you’ve said is quite interesting. I’m wondering how you know?
 



LJBlade said:
He won’t have any input or effect on the team whatsoever. Like I asked though, what you’ve said is quite interesting. I’m wondering how you know?
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He has a say on any footballing decisions made, aside from team selection etc. And secondly, are you expecting an answer to that?
 
Can't see how posting something like that can be constructive. We can only guess as to his motivation for doing so. I can't see how CW could see it as positive. Bewildering to be honest.
 
LJBlade said:
That depends, are you expecting anyone to believe it?

What decisions has he made then which has resulted in our poor form?
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I don’t care what you or anyone else chooses to believe, it doesn’t affect me.

As far as decisions made, as I’ve alsready said, he has input an all footballing decisions above team and tactics.
 
So Sheffield United that boardroom strife snatches defeat from the jaws of victory or in other words fucks things up as soon as we start doing well.
 
s4-blade said:
He’s was brought in by Princeyshitpaper to be the director of football, Wilder told him where to stick that idea. He wanted to change our way of working to a European model as soon as he got his feet under the table, again Wilder (and McCabe) told him where to stick it. His arrival has coincided with our season going off track, co-incidence? Definitely not! He’s tried to meddle here and there since the start, think the ownership dispute is bad? Well add to that a less publicised but equally damaging dispute between king wilder and his supporters at all levels of the club, and Jan Van Fucknugget of Timbuktu. Get out of our club now!
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Is all of that made up? Or most of it?
 
s4-blade said:
I don’t care what you or anyone else chooses to believe, it doesn’t affect me.

As far as decisions made, as I’ve alsready said, he has input an all footballing decisions above team and tactics.
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But what sort of decisions above team and tactics would have an affect on how we play? Does he take training?

You seem to care otherwise you wouldn’t have put what seems to be classified information on here. I’d like to believe you but as I say your story contradicts itself
 
metalblade said:
So Sheffield United that boardroom strife snatches defeat from the jaws of victory or in other words fucks things up as soon as we start doing well.
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Where is the strife though? From what we know it seems to me that the problem is just confusion on McCabe’s part. He’s said ‘he’s going nowhere’ but he’d also be happy if the Prince took over. If he doesn’t want to sell up then he should just say so.
 
LJBlade said:
Where is the strife though? From what we know it seems to me that the problem is just confusion on McCabe’s part. He’s said ‘he’s going nowhere’ but he’d also be happy if the Prince took over. If he doesn’t want to sell up then he should just say so.
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For a start while the boardroom were busy in-fighting they forgot to invest adequately in January when apart from anything else we needed a Coutts replacement, what we have ended up with is four players no better than what were already at the club. Since Coutt's injury we have stagnated as a club and form as been mediocre and little better than bottom six form carry this on over all of next season and we will be fighting relegation.
 
metalblade said:
For a start while the boardroom were busy in-fighting they forgot to invest adequately in January when apart from anything else we needed a Coutts replacement, what we have ended up with is four players no better than what were already at the club. Since Coutt's injury we have stagnated as a club and form as been mediocre and little better than bottom six form carry this on over all of next season and we will be fighting relegation.
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We should be better than one player though. We quality throughout the squad Coutts or no Coutts.
 
LJBlade said:
But what sort of decisions above team and tactics would have an affect on how we play? Does he take training?

You seem to care otherwise you wouldn’t have put what seems to be classified information on here. I’d like to believe you but as I say your story contradicts itself
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Budget, Players brought in, Recruitment networks, Contracts and finances, Club Ethos, management structure, the personal within it. The game of football is unbelievably political, you wouldn’t understand unless you’ve witnessed it first hand. And what I’ve posted is hardly classified information, it’s well known to those who know in which direction to dig, ive stopped myself from divulging any more.
 
What many are forgetting is that if the price is right then kev will sell to BRP.

Maybe we should stop trying to defend the inevitable and consider what will happen post McCabes.

If BRP and RVW start a steady stream of quality European young players coming in from his Belgian academy club then maybe our playing model will have to change under Wylder or A.N.Other.

What would be a disaster is BRP and kev spending all the closed season bashin each other over the head and HRH winning control then the first half of the season being a battle between CW and RVW.

We need a quick resolution to the ownership (and I don't think BRP winning might be a bad thing, we need to progress as a club) and a quick resolution to the leadership issues so we can start buying and strengthening the squad ASAP from May onwards. What we don't need is another string of also ran players from the lower tiers that can't break into our current mediocre 1st team. If the later happens next season will be a write off.
 



ok right, so read the original tweet. first impression is its a dig at Wilder, solely because the word meddle is taken out of context. then read the 2nd tweet then it makes more sense. and the more times you read the first tweet the more it becomes apparent that if aimed at Wilder its a compliment. trust our lot to read a tweet once and thats it shoes are off.
 
metalblade said:
For a start while the boardroom were busy in-fighting they forgot to invest adequately in January when apart from anything else we needed a Coutts replacement, what we have ended up with is four players no better than what were already at the club. Since Coutt's injury we have stagnated as a club and form as been mediocre and little better than bottom six form carry this on over all of next season and we will be fighting relegation.
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That wasn’t my point. My point was where is the proof that there is actually an in-fighting? Unless I am missing something McCabe has the power to end all of the uncertainty. Sell or don’t but make a decision either way. He says he isn’t going anywhere? Well then tell the Prince your halfisnt for sale.

While we are at it, did they forget to invest? They allowed Wilder to bring two centre mid’s to replace Coutts.
 
s4-blade said:
Budget, Players brought in, Recruitment networks, Contracts and finances, Club Ethos, management structure, the personal within it. The game of football is unbelievably political, you wouldn’t understand unless you’ve witnessed it first hand. And what I’ve posted is hardly classified information, it’s well known to those who know in which direction to dig, ive stopped myself from divulging any more.
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He hasn’t had any influence on players brought in and I can tell you that for a fact. He also doesn’t set the budget. Either way though none of that effects how the team plays. I wouldn’t understand? How do you know I haven’t been involved and witnessed it first hand? How have you witnessed it?
 
mancunianblade said:
ok right, so read the original tweet. first impression is its a dig at Wilder, solely because the word meddle is taken out of context. then read the 2nd tweet then it makes more sense. and the more times you read the first tweet the more it becomes apparent that if aimed at Wilder its a compliment. trust our lot to read a tweet once and thats it shoes are off.
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Can you stop with the sensible posts please, some people are trying to have a meltdown here!
 
mancunianblade said:
ok right, so read the original tweet. first impression is its a dig at Wilder, solely because the word meddle is taken out of context. then read the 2nd tweet then it makes more sense. and the more times you read the first tweet the more it becomes apparent that if aimed at Wilder its a compliment. trust our lot to read a tweet once and thats it shoes are off.
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IF it is a compliment then it should either be made clear and not open to interpretation OR (my preference) he should stay the fuck off social media while being on the board of a football club. At best it is inept (if well meaning), like Jim Phipps' attempts on facebook, at worst it is toxic, like a lot of the replies it has received.
 
LJBlade said:
He hasn’t had any influence on players brought in and I can tell you that for a fact. He also doesn’t set the budget. Either way though none of that effects how the team plays. I wouldn’t understand? How do you know I haven’t been involved and witnessed it first hand? How have you witnessed it?
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:tumbleweed: Been through this before
 
super_pig said:
come on.. i've never heard of him
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Not sure if your taking the mick but....

https://www.sufc.co.uk/news/2017/december/jan-van-winckel/

A new appointment has been made to the board of Sheffield United FC (SUFC), it was announced today.

Jan Van Winckel, who holds a UEFA Pro License and is a technical expert for FIFA, has joined the Blades board. Mr Van Winckel is also an expert panel member for the Asian Football Confederation in Coach Education and Youth Development. He also joins the board of the holding company, Blades Leisure Limited (BLL).

Aged 43, Mr Van Winckel led the Saudi Arabian football team, as chairman of the technical committee, to the World Cup in Russia. He also held several coaching jobs and was for several years the assistant manager of the famous coach Marcelo Bielsa at Olympique de Marseille in France.

Jan graduated with a Masters in Sports Science and Business Economy from the University of Leuven and is still attached as a researcher to the Biomedical Kinesiology Department of Prof. Helsen.

Mr Van Winckel noted: "I am very proud to be part of this club with its amazing fans and rich history. In the last months I have looked in admiration to the work of Chris Wilder and his staff and the work in the Academy. I hope that my experience can contribute to the overall development of the Blades."

Prince Abdullah bin Mosa'ad observed: "Jan is someone whom I have known for a while now. He is an experienced football man and we are delighted to have him as part of the team at board level."
 
If Rip van Winckel was brought in as director of football and Wilder/McCabe put the kibosh on that, and then he became "Technical Director", whatever that is, and he has no input in that role either, then just what is his function at The Lane? As Bill Shankley said, "If he is not interfering with play he shouldn't be on the pitch." Maybe he is just a sleeping partner?
 



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