CONFIRMED James Hanson

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Perhaps Wilder has got what he wanted with the amount he is given to spend.
As Wilder said today the team wasn't ruthless enough maybe the board are the same.
 

Roygbiv said:
I have no qualms with Hanson as a sub to change things, I just cant help being a bit disappointed that there was lots of talk about a new striker and it looks as though it's going to be Hanson
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I think it is about adding another threat. Wilder seems to have settled on the current system and he'll try to be proactive when it comes to improving us, while probably accepting that he won't necessarily find players who can just come in and offer far more than any of the current first choices.

He's added Carruthers who offers back up/competition to Coutts/Fleck/Duffy. Riley does the same at either wing back. I do think he'll try to add another winger, if Chapman is not closer than we think, but we shouldn't forget that we do not play with out and out wingers. Some of these will be reluctant to come to us, knowing that they're coming as 'plan B' players, mainly for situations when we're struggling to break down teams. Up front we have Sharp, Lavery, McNulty, Done and Clarke, who've all scored goals at this level, but we're not quite sure which combination is our strongest. So it's about finding someone who offers something else. Maybe he could have looked for sheer pace, but the way teams are defending against us, maybe Wilder thinks that such players (accepting that they won't be world beaters technically) will be a bit wasted with little space to run into.
 
Barney said:
Just about all of it, OK he's a decent header of the ball but he's just not what we need by any means. Not good enough at all. Hate to sound like Mono-tonal Pinchy here but he does scream hit and hope. As I said on the other thread we need far better than him if we're going for top two. On top of all that he's an incredibly divisive figure at Bradford, with half their fanbase thinking he's nothing more than a lazy lump to hit it long to. It's all over their forum. And that's in a team that are in the play offs. So is that really the baggage we want coming with a player whilst we attempt the top two?
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No he is not. It's a small minority on a message board and the moaners are always the loudest. The large majority rate JH. He is an iconic Bradford City player, a decent bloke and utterly selfless, you will not ever catch him pointing to his name on the back of his shirt after scoring, he is a straight up man.

His scoring record is there for all to see, it is good, compare it to other similar players, "doesn't score enough" is a myth and Billy Sharp will think he's won the lottery when matched with him. You have the best squad and he will only make you stronger and enable you to mix things up.
 
sitwell said:
Utter rubbish.
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Great repost. I will be so bold as to say I am way more informed than to about Hanson and am sharing the opinions I hear at work, in my house and in the street every single day.

Your well thought out 'reply' is the kind of bile that clogs up internet forms and does nothing other than promote animosity without any though or debate. Crap post 0/10. Don't be so childish and discuss rather than this sort of unproductive response.
 
Houso said:
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Serious
 
In just about every aspect he's an improvement on the Clarke of this season. Younger, better attitude, marginally better scoring record. It's not a signing to get the pulse racing but if it improves the net quality of our squad, even marginally, what's the issue?
 
blader said:
Great repost. I will be so bold as to say I am way more informed than to about Hanson and am sharing the opinions I hear at work, in my house and in the street every single day.

Your well thought out 'reply' is the kind of bile that clogs up internet forms and does nothing other than promote animosity without any though or debate. Crap post 0/10. Don't be so childish and discuss rather than this sort of unproductive response.
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But it's simply not true, I also work a lot in the bradford area and have friends who have messaged me today . There is a mixture of he's injury prone and doesn't score enough to he's an excellent player and they are gutted to lose him . I have seen him about 15 mainly against us and also in the Bradford end with friends, he has been the best player on the pitch for most of them. Also we have better players than Bradford who would both suit and thrive off Hanson. It doesn't mean we would go long ball that is a very narrow minded view just because he can head a ball better than most. Wilder knows what we need and wouldn't go for him if he was no good. We would have 2 more points if he had played today.
 
Blade for Sale said:
In just about every aspect he's an improvement on the Clarke of this season. Younger, better attitude, marginally better scoring record. It's not a signing to get the pulse racing but if it improves the net quality of our squad, even marginally, what's the issue?
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If Clarke goes the other way ( or out anywhere) it's an upgrade...no problem here, Chris and the team will know what the lad can bring and what they can add to his game.

UTB!
 
saltaire bantam said:
Apologies if this has already been posted.

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i think he would give us something different up top but lets get washington as well and ship clarke and mcnulty if possible out oh and while your at it chris get us another centre back in maybe webster because our defence is really starting to worry me
 
sitwell said:
But it's simply not true, I also work a lot in the bradford area and have friends who have messaged me today . There is a mixture of he's injury prone and doesn't score enough to he's an excellent player and they are gutted to lose him . I have seen him about 15 mainly against us and also in the Bradford end with friends, he has been the best player on the pitch for most of them. Also we have better players than Bradford who would both suit and thrive off Hanson. It doesn't mean we would go long ball that is a very narrow minded view just because he can head a ball better than most. Wilder knows what we need and wouldn't go for him if he was no good. We would have 2 more points if he had played today.
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Both of those "facts" are myths, all you have to do is look. Is there another target man with so many appearances and goals out there? Look at his season appearances and then look at his goals per game. It's right there and all the Hanson moaners theories fall as flat as a fart when confronted with them. Every manager picks him, game in, game out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hanson_(footballer,_born_1987)
 
I don't get all the negativity about this to be honest. Every time I have seen him play he has absolutely bullied the CBs he was up against and would really help us make more from our crosses and set pieces. He has scored goals in every recent season, getting into double figures most of the time despite being out for spells due to injuries. He is a certain type of play that we just don't have at the club and one which I think will come in very handy towards the business end of the season. My only gripe would be a long contract, 1.5 years max for me, that way if we do go up we can try and sell him on next season (assuming he couldn't cope in the champ) or if we don't go up he could still be effective for another season in this godforsaken league. Any longer contract would be foolish.
 
I've always dreaded him playing against us to be honest, I've no idea why some are so negative when it's so obvious that we've needed a player like him for a while. We need players to help us get out of LEAGUE ONE, not the Championship, and he's more than proven at this level. Our other two new signings are gifted ball players, but every team needs a wrecking ball once in a while to pressureise the centre backs and Hanson fits the bill.

The move could be good for him having been at City for so long, and for us, and if Wilder and his team think he's what we need then I'll back their judgement.
 

sitwell said:
But it's simply not true, I also work a lot in the bradford area and have friends who have messaged me today . There is a mixture of he's injury prone and doesn't score enough to he's an excellent player and they are gutted to lose him . I have seen him about 15 mainly against us and also in the Bradford end with friends, he has been the best player on the pitch for most of them. Also we have better players than Bradford who would both suit and thrive off Hanson. It doesn't mean we would go long ball that is a very narrow minded view just because he can head a ball better than most. Wilder knows what we need and wouldn't go for him if he was no good. We would have 2 more points if he had played today.
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We wouldn't go log ball because he's good at heading. Bradford go long ball when he's on the pitch because he is just not good with his feet. If we want to continue this current brand of football, Hanson just isn't capable of doing it.

Hanson thrived under Phil Parkinson (I say 'thrived', he did quite well) because it was suited to him perfectly. They were big, physical and extremely direct. All the things we are not.
Since McCall came in, they have started playing it on the deck, they have some great ball players like Cullen, Law and Clarke and Hanson just doesn't fit the team any more, hence why he has fallen out of favour.

Hanson has his uses. Today, for example. He would Be OK the last 10 mins when we are throwing it in the box from corners and free kicks. However, as we are top of the league and looking forward, it seems strange to sign a player on a good League 1 wage that, at best, we will use for the rest of this season for the last 10 mins in each game. I think we need to be slightly longer sighted as, if we were promoted, Hanson would be rightly binned at the end of the year. (Or he remains on a decent wage in the reserves).

He is very static and poor with his feet, which just doesn't suit a dynamic ball-playing football team. This is virtually unanimous among city fans. They acknowledge his uses but also accept the team has outgrown him as a starter. He is also getting old and won't be getting any better!

I think of all the options he is one of the worst we could go for. There are younger players scoring loads of goals in L1 and L2 that would seem much smarter investments than Hanson. He is the epitomy of a clogged, and the exact type of player o used to resent us signing, time after time. Not for me, thanks. There are better options IMO.
 
blader said:
Hanson thrived under Phil Parkinson (I say 'thrived', he did quite well) because it was suited to him perfectly. They were big, physical and extremely direct. All the things we are not.
Since McCall came in, they have started playing it on the deck, they have some great ball players like Cullen, Law and Clarke and Hanson just doesn't fit the team any more, hence why he has fallen out of favour.
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If you don't like him that is fine but that claim is entirely made up. AFAIK Hanson has never ever "fallen out of favour", every Bradford manager has picked him if he is fit (and he usually is), McCall was his first manager too, and he admitted today he would have picked him if not for your bid.

I think there was a spat about Hanson's drinking habits under Parkinson for a week or two.
 
I don't know what to think about this.
Decent last season I think??
We could do better surely??
 
blader said:
We wouldn't go log ball because he's good at heading. Bradford go long ball when he's on the pitch because he is just not good with his feet. If we want to continue this current brand of football, Hanson just isn't capable of doing it.

Hanson thrived under Phil Parkinson (I say 'thrived', he did quite well) because it was suited to him perfectly. They were big, physical and extremely direct. All the things we are not.
Since McCall came in, they have started playing it on the deck, they have some great ball players like Cullen, Law and Clarke and Hanson just doesn't fit the team any more, hence why he has fallen out of favour.

Hanson has his uses. Today, for example. He would Be OK the last 10 mins when we are throwing it in the box from corners and free kicks. However, as we are top of the league and looking forward, it seems strange to sign a player on a good League 1 wage that, at best, we will use for the rest of this season for the last 10 mins in each game. I think we need to be slightly longer sighted as, if we were promoted, Hanson would be rightly binned at the end of the year. (Or he remains on a decent wage in the reserves).

He is very static and poor with his feet, which just doesn't suit a dynamic ball-playing football team. This is virtually unanimous among city fans. They acknowledge his uses but also accept the team has outgrown him as a starter. He is also getting old and won't be getting any better!

I think of all the options he is one of the worst we could go for. There are younger players scoring loads of goals in L1 and L2 that would seem much smarter investments than Hanson. He is the epitomy of a clogged, and the exact type of player o used to resent us signing, time after time. Not for me, thanks. There are better options IMO.
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I thought we trusted Wilder he knows what he wants to improve our last third play.we create numerous good positions but lack Ariel and physical
presence up front,It's obvious we need something different and Wilder feels he can do the job.All our part time managers are coming out of the woodwork, have you lost faith in our manager already ? !! Give him a break he's done a great job so far,he wants to finish the job why not step back and let him get on with it.
He doesn't need telling where our weaknesses are, listen to his after match interview.,he more or less spells it out..
Our recent history is one of failure I don't Beleave Wilder will tolerate any bottlers.we have some fans who can't wait to slap the team and manager,Wilders not a bottler let's not lose our Beleafe in him.
If he wants Hanson then Hanson it is
Get behind him
 
brownie4583 said:
I think they do because what's the point in signing players that will be not good enough for next season?
The names flying around eg Blackman,Pitman,Washington etc are players we should be looking at who are good enough for,dare I say it,the championship next season
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And sign players who aren't going to get us over the line this season ? Great plan:rolleyes:
 
Just read the view from Bradford fans thread.. frightening.

...there surely has to be a better option in our price range?
 
brownie4583 said:
I think they do because what's the point in signing players that will be not good enough for next season?
The names flying around eg Blackman,Pitman,Washington etc are players we should be looking at who are good enough for,dare I say it,the championship next season
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We also need to sign players for this season. Worry about the championship when we are actually in the championship
 
In one interview Wilder noted that we had had over 70 crossing opportunities in the two games against Walsall. Have to think at 6 feet four he would have got on some of them, particularly if we started aiming for him. It is all about what you do with the opportunities you get. For me the signing makes sense.
 
finlaytheblade said:
I thought we trusted Wilder he knows what he wants to improve our last third play.we create numerous good positions but lack Ariel and physical
presence up front,It's obvious we need something different and Wilder feels he can do the job.All our part time managers are coming out of the woodwork, have you lost faith in our manager already ? !! Give him a break he's done a great job so far,he wants to finish the job why not step back and let him get on with it.
He doesn't need telling where our weaknesses are, listen to his after match interview.,he more or less spells it out..
Our recent history is one of failure I don't Beleave Wilder will tolerate any bottlers.we have some fans who can't wait to slap the team and manager,Wilders not a bottler let's not lose our Beleafe in him.
If he wants Hanson then Hanson it is
Get behind him
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I think we only get behind him when he wins.
If we play good football but don't win, to many he's a plank just like all the rest of our managers always were.
It's the Blades way :oops:
 
A few week ago we beat Southend 4 -2 , and Wilder was the. Bees knees , a defeat and a draw later and the knives are out already ,absolutely pathetic
response from some of our fans.He's put a team together in double quick time,we have weaknesses is that surprising.
He's now trying to put the finishing touches to the team to get us over the line,if that means one or two short term buys so be it.Who's to say Hanson can't cut it anyway ,we are far away the best team ( technically ) in this Division but lack a bit of muscle ( especially up front ).if Wilder thinks Hanson can deliver it ,who are we and the Bradford crew to say he is wrong.
I say it again absolutely pathetic response, get behind Wilder and whoever he puts on the pitch
 
finlaytheblade said:
A few week ago we beat Southend 4 -2 , and Wilder was the. Bees knees , a defeat and a draw later and the knives are out already ,absolutely pathetic
response from some of our fans.He's put a team together in double quick time,we have weaknesses is that surprising.
He's now trying to put the finishing touches to the team to get us over the line,if that means one or two short term buys so be it.Who's to say Hanson can't cut it anyway ,we are far away the best team ( technically ) in this Division but lack a bit of muscle ( especially up front ).if Wilder thinks Hanson can deliver it ,who are we and the Bradford crew to say he is wrong.
I say it again absolutely pathetic response, get behind Wilder and whoever he puts on the pitch
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Oh dear Fin. Hanson would be a bad signing from Wilder in my opinion, just because we are doing well in terms of table position doesn't mean we're not allowed to point out a likely mistake when we see one
 
saltaire bantam said:
Both of those "facts" are myths, all you have to do is look. Is there another target man with so many appearances and goals out there? Look at his season appearances and then look at his goals per game. It's right there and all the Hanson moaners theories fall as flat as a fart when confronted with them. Every manager picks him, game in, game out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Hanson_(footballer,_born_1987)
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What stats? Clarke 3 goals In 19 games and Hanson 4 goals in 20 games and hanson has penalties in that too! How is Hanson any better than Chris Porter? Let alone leon clarke
 

saltaire bantam said:
If you don't like him that is fine but that claim is entirely made up. AFAIK Hanson has never ever "fallen out of favour", every Bradford manager has picked him if he is fit (and he usually is), McCall was his first manager too, and he admitted today he would have picked him if not for your bid.

I think there was a spat about Hanson's drinking habits under Parkinson for a week or two.
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Well you say 'every manager' but he's virtually only ever played under Parkinson anyway, hasn't he? He suited Parkinson's style down to the ground and it worked for him, particularly when Wells was there. However, now city play it on the deck, he has been ineffective and is no longer in the starting line up because of it. If you are a City fan, you must realise that as soon as Hanson plays you go route 1, because it's the only way he can have any effect. He is too slow and ponderous on the ball to be able to suit your current style.
 
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