Player Suggestion Jaden Philogene-Bidace

[LJBlade]

Cool

About the answer I expected really

 

[Carlton Blade]

About the answer I expected really

Here's your trophy

 

[Bladey_blade]

I don’t think I said that, did I?

Given where we’re currently at, and given what he’s demonstrated so far in his career do you really think he’s worth using our limited budget?

I’ll also add, “rumoured”

Cameron Archer has only played in the Championship on that logic yet they have supposedly quoted us 20 million.
I'd imagine if Hull are after the lad, fees and wages won't be a problem especially if it's 3/4 million AND he would be classed as U21 as 21st his birthday was in Feb so wouldn't need to be in the 25

 

[Silent Blade]

Is that important?

Yes, if any of the PL clubs think he is ready for the PL then they would have been after him.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Yes, if any of the PL clubs think he is ready for the PL then they would have been after him.

United are in very different circumstances and with a very different budget. The point is to identify value in places and players bigger clubs wouldn't bother looking

 

[Blade56]

Player suggestions are good time passers but if the club haven’t been tracking them and doing their scouting due diligence i would imagine they’re not suddenly going to see Hull after him and dive in quick. We would only do that if he’s on the now infamous list of players that’s now looking embarrassingly threadbare.

 

[Silent Blade]

United are in very different circumstances and with a very different budget. The point is to identify value in places and players bigger clubs wouldn't bother looking

Dont think we are looking for wingers anyway

 

[LJBlade]

Here's your trophy

Not bothered about a trophy, I’d rather you just answer my question. I’m not sure why you’re getting weird about it, it was an honest question.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Dont think we are looking for wingers anyway

He's also played un CM a lot. Versatile and athletic

 

[LJBlade]

Cameron Archer has only played in the Championship on that logic yet they have supposedly quoted us 20 million.
I'd imagine if Hull are after the lad, fees and wages won't be a problem especially if it's 3/4 million AND he would be classed as U21 as 21st his birthday was in Feb so wouldn't need to be in the 25

I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make, I don’t think Archer is worth £20m.

 

[Silent Blade]

He's also played un CM a lot. Versatile and athletic

We need strikers not CMs

 

[Carlton Blade]

Not bothered about a trophy, I’d rather you just answer my question. I’m not sure why you’re getting weird about it, it was an honest question.

Yes, I think he's worth it. Offers something we don't have and, if he was to jump a level good resale potential. If he doesn't then at least it's another piece to have around next season

 

[Carlton Blade]

We need strikers not CMs

We need players in a lot of positions and we need pace.

 

[Yogi]

His ability to carry the ball up the pitch in central areas caused us some real issues against Cardiff last year. That’s a useful and valuable skill to have and is a skill set that our current crop of midfielders don’t have.

 

[LJBlade]

Yes, I think he's worth it. Offers something we don't have and, if he was to jump a level good resale potential. If he doesn't then at least it's another piece to have around next season

Fair enough. I disagree. Given our limited budget, I don’t think someone who is currently middling Championship is worth spending potentially £5m on. It will be interesting to see whether anyone other than Hull come in for him.

 

[Bladey_blade]

Jaden Philogene stands out as a skillful, yet direct winger with a real talent to take on his man

His acceleration has proven to be deadly, especially when in a foot race with the defence

Quoted from someone who has done analysis for the Hull move, although it says winger he has played CAM, seems similar to what we lack in that area

 

[Houso]

I thought he looked good at the Lane earlier in the year and I think commented on it during the match on here. Although I thought Kaba looked just as good and I'm disappointed we didn't go for him.

BUT, if funds are tight, we're getting good hints form City that McAtee may be available after all, it makes much more sense to save our limited budget for a striker.

And the main point being that if we've not been linked by now, I just don't think we're interested and he doesn't fit the profile of what Hecky is looking for.

 

[Slim Man]

£5m is a snip.
Fair play to Hull, that's ambition

 

[bonobo]

He looked good against us and seems the type of player who would fit with our system and Hecky likes. But like all these Prem youth players, it's still a lot of money based on a fairly limited number of appearances, so always feels a real gamble.

 

[Groucho Blade]

Gone to Villa

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Gone to Villa

They had matching rights or a buyback clause. Not a fan of either of those clauses as it allows the rich clubs to continue hoarding and dominating.

 

[NateDogg]

The most annoying thing about this deal is that Hull bought him for £4.5m and sold him back for £18m. We bought Archer for £18 and sold him back for £15m or £16m.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

The most annoying thing about this deal is that Hull bought him for £4.5m and sold him back for £18m. We bought Archer for £18 and sold him back for £15m or £16m.

Archer had done a bit more when we bought him, but agree with your point. It was a poor deal on our part.

 

[MojoMuffin]

The most annoying thing about this deal is that Hull bought him for £4.5m and sold him back for £18m. We bought Archer for £18 and sold him back for £15m or £16m.

Heard something a bit different on this.

Apparently he had a buy back clause IF another team were to get him from Hull. Ipswich went in for 18m, activated the clause which meant Villa could buy him back for 30% less of whatever the offer from the other enquiring team was (sell on clause essentially). Hull will get 13.5m. I'd imagine Villa will now sell him to Ipswich for 18-20m.

 

[NateDogg]

Heard something a bit different on this.

Apparently he had a buy back clause IF another team were to get him from Hull. Ipswich went in for 18m, activated the clause which meant Villa could buy him back for 30% less of whatever the offer from the other enquiring team was (sell on clause essentially). Hull will get 13.5m. I'd imagine Villa will now sell him to Ipswich for 18-20m.

Oh I see fair enough. All sounds pretty dodgy doesn't it.

 

[Shadota]

Oh I see fair enough. All sounds pretty dodgy doesn't it.

I have no idea if that scenario is true re: the buyback clause, but if it is, it's just another sly way for Prem teams to squirm their way past FFP regs. I hate that league with a passion. Everyone is just out to shortcut their way to success

 

[MojoMuffin]

I have no idea if that scenario is true re: the buyback clause, but if it is, it's just another sly way for Prem teams to squirm their way past FFP regs. I hate that league with a passion. Everyone is just out to shortcut their way to success

Sad but true! Just found it on BBC Sport

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

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The best name in sports journalism is back!

 

[jimmymuir]

Sounds like he's been made available for loan by Villa, not too surprising with their frightening level of attacking depth. If he was interested, I think this would be a real statement signing given he can play on either flank (but mainly used on the left wing). Would much prefer him to Louie Barry, given that he has real Championship experience with both Cardiff and Hull.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Must be a top target if available

Same main position as Brereton, but both could be accommodated. I'd put him on the right