Its Over Wilder

[Nelson1889]

The thing that frustrating about wilder is there is rarely any in-game management in regards to changes in tactics or shape.

As soon as it went to 2-2 last night most of our fans could see what was coming next. We should have taken Brooks off (not because of his performance btw) and put soumare on as an extra midfielder to get some more control and ride out the momentum they'd built.

See out that 10 minute spell at 2-2 and then wrestle back some hold of the game and make your attacking change (jairo off for ings/cannon)

The problem is everyone knows the subs he will make 90% of the time and they are rarely for tactical reasons

 

[CPB]

It was a on odd game last night.
Preston looked good for 10 mins. Then we score. We then look on top and score again with a lucky bounce and then a nice bit of work from COH.

Rest of the half we seem in control, create a few moments that we should have made more of.

Preston grab a goal at the end of the half and their tails are up. They then get some luck themselves right at the start as Tanganga can't sort his legs out.

Tails even more up but we do fight back and have a spell.
3rd goal McGuinness gets that whack. He would have either closed down the player crossing or tracked the Jebbisons run. Instead he could do neither and this enabled a free cross and a free header.

After this we huffed and puffed but rarely threatened to get back in. But Soumare could have equalised from the corner knock down. They also could a should have taken the game away from us from that smith miss.

We could easily have won or drawn that game. On another day we do.

2-0 can be a dangerous score when there's so much time left.

 

[Nick Jansky]

2-0 can be a dangerous score when there's so much time left.

And you have a manager who’s game management is weak.

 

[Tickhill Blade]

The problem is everyone knows the subs he will make 90% of the time and they are rarely for tactical reasons

This is the issue, most of our subs are made for physical reasons rather than tactical. This would actually be a viable strategy with so many subs available these days, if the quality of the replacement players was close to the starters, as the top clubs do. Sadly, ours are a horrendous drop off in standard.

 

[Servigliano]

This is the issue, most of our subs are made for physical reasons rather than tactical. This would actually be a viable strategy with so many subs available these days, if the quality of the replacement players was close to the starters, as the top clubs do. Sadly, ours are a horrendous drop off in standard.

It doesn't help having no big man up front - nor any right backs at all save maybe Seriki.
And that's not Wilder's fault.

 

[Nick Jansky]

This is the issue, most of our subs are made for physical reasons rather than tactical. This would actually be a viable strategy with so many subs available these days, if the quality of the replacement players was close to the starters, as the top clubs do. Sadly, ours are a horrendous drop off in standard.

Against Blackburn, because of 3 games in 6 days, we started with a few squad players and they were able to stay in the game. Then we were able to bring on strength from the bench and look what happened. With the weakness of the squad maybe we need to consider this approach more often and just set up to absorb pressure in the first half, accepting that we’ll have zero attacking threat until the substitutions are made.

 

[Grey Blade]

It was a on odd game last night.
Preston looked good for 10 mins. Then we score. We then look on top and score again with a lucky bounce and then a nice bit of work from COH.

Rest of the half we seem in control, create a few moments that we should have made more of.

Preston grab a goal at the end of the half and their tails are up. They then get some luck themselves right at the start as Tanganga can't sort his legs out.

Tails even more up but we do fight back and have a spell.
3rd goal McGuinness gets that whack. He would have either closed down the player crossing or tracked the Jebbisons run. Instead he could do neither and this enabled a free cross and a free header.

After this we huffed and puffed but rarely threatened to get back in. But Soumare could have equalised from the corner knock down. They also could a should have taken the game away from us from that smith miss.

We could easily have won or drawn that game. On another day we do.

2-0 can be a dangerous score when there's so much time left.

That's exactly as I saw it - except that, from the away end, I didn't realise McGuinness was injured prior to the third goal.

It could easily have finished 3-3 or 4-2

For a neutral it would have been a great game to watch

 

[Champagneblade]

It was a on odd game last night.
Preston looked good for 10 mins. Then we score. We then look on top and score again with a lucky bounce and then a nice bit of work from COH.

Rest of the half we seem in control, create a few moments that we should have made more of.

Preston grab a goal at the end of the half and their tails are up. They then get some luck themselves right at the start as Tanganga can't sort his legs out.

Tails even more up but we do fight back and have a spell.
3rd goal McGuinness gets that whack. He would have either closed down the player crossing or tracked the Jebbisons run. Instead he could do neither and this enabled a free cross and a free header.

After this we huffed and puffed but rarely threatened to get back in. But Soumare could have equalised from the corner knock down. They also could a should have taken the game away from us from that smith miss.

We could easily have won or drawn that game. On another day we do.

2-0 can be a dangerous score when there's so much time left.

It was an entertaining Championship game that either side could have won.

The xG has us 2.37 to 1.57 ahead.

We wanted to be competitive again after multiple surrenders under Sellés. We are. We’re not so far ahead that we can just turn up though and let the quality speak for itself; we’re without our 3 best or better players (Arblaster, Hamer, Davies).

Having slept on it, there are encouraging signs. But it doesn’t mean we will avoid matches where we are better and don’t win, whilst the opposite may also end up being true.

Football is a lot to do with luck. If we have Arblaster and Hamer fit for the rest of the season we’ll finish top 10.

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

It doesn't help having no big man up front - nor any right backs at all save maybe Seriki.
And that's not Wilder's fault.

Nothing is ever Wilders fault in some of your eyes. After a decent 45 minutes at Blackburn,we go back to last season’s performances. These performances are horrible to watch and apart from o’hare ,there is nothing remotely on the pitch that identifies style,shape,pattern or playing through the lines. As some say,I have never disliked a ‘team’ of players as I do at present.

 

[1888to1889]

Ever thought he might be right on some things and just a Blade venting his thoughts

No

 

[Bladesince59]

He’s inherited Ruben’s panic buys and it’s clear most aren’t good enough Barry, Bindon, Ogbene, mcguinness, mee etc
I do think we’d have had a better squad at the start or the season if we hadn’t rolled the dice and replaced him and I’m not wilders biggest fan.
The insistence on starting Peck week in week out is really frustrating me though, for me he offers very little other than trying hard.

We certainly bought some shit

 

[SLB]

The thing that frustrating about wilder is there is rarely any in-game management in regards to changes in tactics or shape.

As soon as it went to 2-2 last night most of our fans could see what was coming next. We should have taken Brooks off (not because of his performance btw) and put soumare on as an extra midfielder to get some more control and ride out the momentum they'd built.

See out that 10 minute spell at 2-2 and then wrestle back some hold of the game and make your attacking change (jairo off for ings/cannon)

The problem is everyone knows the subs he will make 90% of the time and they are rarely for tactical reasons

I've said this for ages. CW seems to have decided days before each game who's replacing who and at a certain time irrespective of what's happening on the pitch.

 

[utd4ever]

Still living off the glory years of 2016-2020
The game has moved on, the football was a hard watch last year, and even more so this.

This will probably be the worst decision he could have ever made, coming back for a third time, trying to recreate the glory days.

The party is over, the owners haven't the first idea. I fear, Wilder will end up taking us back to where he found us in 2016.

The players haven't got the stomach, passion, fight or bottle for a relegation battle, I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see anything other than relegation this season.

He came back because no other club will take him.
You only have to see how much of a disaster this bloke is with money and tactics.

Root and branch change will be needed at this club for us to ever challenge properly.

 

[Sean Thornton]

You must be a pig fan. No self respecting Blades fan would write such hateful unwarranted drivel.

The irony

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I don’t know if the opening poster is a pig or not but whoever they support they are not wrong.
Wilder just isn’t a very good manager.
I did warn you all but very few listened, unfortunately its too late now.

 

[wak1889]

It was an entertaining Championship game that either side could have won.

The xG has us 2.37 to 1.57 ahead.

We wanted to be competitive again after multiple surrenders under Sellés. We are. We’re not so far ahead that we can just turn up though and let the quality speak for itself; we’re without our 3 best or better players (Arblaster, Hamer, Davies).

Having slept on it, there are encouraging signs. But it doesn’t mean we will avoid matches where we are better and don’t win, whilst the opposite may also end up being true.

Football is a lot to do with luck. If we have Arblaster and Hamer fit for the rest of the season we’ll finish top 10.

A lot of people are putting a lot of faith in Arblaster, he hasn't played for a year and has still played more league one football than championship football, he played 12 games last season and was in crap in at least 3 of them, Leeds, Middlesbrough and Wednesday, I'm not convinced he is the saviour of our season,

 

[Champagneblade]

A lot of people are putting a lot of faith in Arblaster, he hasn't played for a year and has still played more league one football than championship football, he played 12 games last season and was in crap in at least 3 of them, Leeds, Middlesbrough and Wednesday, I'm not convinced he is the saviour of our season,

We need the odd straw to cling to!

 

[54yrblade]

He came back because no other club will take him.
You only have to see how much of a disaster this bloke is with money and tactics.

Root and branch change will be needed at this club for us to ever challenge properly.

He needs the club more than it needs him now.

When he bangs on about 'connection' it's about his connection more than ours.

 

[bornablade]

Our 'straws to cling on to' are : -

A return to fitness and form for both Arblaster & Hamer
A permenantly fit Tom Davies
A successful January Loan Window.

It needs all 3 and we may have a chance.

 

[bertieblade]

Intrigued to know if anyone actually thinks that Wilder is doing a good job?
By that I mean making the best use of the players that he has available?

I have not spoken to anyone who thinks he is

 

[LurkerBlade]

It was an entertaining Championship game that either side could have won.

The xG has us 2.37 to 1.57 ahead.

We wanted to be competitive again after multiple surrenders under Sellés. We are. We’re not so far ahead that we can just turn up though and let the quality speak for itself; we’re without our 3 best or better players (Arblaster, Hamer, Davies).

Having slept on it, there are encouraging signs. But it doesn’t mean we will avoid matches where we are better and don’t win, whilst the opposite may also end up being true.

Football is a lot to do with luck. If we have Arblaster and Hamer fit for the rest of the season we’ll finish top 10.

Same again after Saturdays game.

EVERYTHING is trending in the right direction but as Wilder often says, the most important part is what happens in both boxes and that's the bit we aren't getting right.

Everyone talks about fight, lightweight and height - yet we won more tackles, won more headers and passed better than Preston and Derby.

Being terrible in their 18 yard box and making stupid mistakes to gift them chances can be sorted, but it needs to be sorted very quickly.

 

[Blade56]

Bring Hecky back then sack him when we don't get promoted. Then bring back Wilder mark 4. Let's play a game of how many times we can bring back Wilder. I might even make a board game out of it just in time for Christmas.

Could do a SUFC version of Traitors with all our ex managers and retired players.

 

[Striker]

Not to be a Selles apologist, but I’m pretty sure the ones that were actually ‘panic buys’ are all the exact sort of players that Wilder would have signed anyway.

On the contrary, I don't believe Wilder would have signed the majority of the players we signed under Selles.

Non seem to have the bollocks to play in one of his teams, a fundamental requirement for CW.

The rot set in as soon as COH took over and unless they back him in January it's destined to get worse.

 

[ATL Recs]

A lot of people are putting a lot of faith in Arblaster, he hasn't played for a year and has still played more league one football than championship football, he played 12 games last season and was in crap in at least 3 of them, Leeds, Middlesbrough and Wednesday, I'm not convinced he is the saviour of our season,

Yes but its how legends are born here

 

[ATL Recs]

On the contrary, I don't believe Wilder would have signed the majority of the players we signed under Selles.

Non seem to have the bollocks to play in one of his teams, a fundamental requirement for CW.

The rot set in as soon as COH took over and unless they back him in January it's destined to get worse.

So who signed all that shyte in January that cost us promotion

 

[wavy-blade]

Your still hurting after the Brooks, Duffy ,leonnnn
Derby aren’t you

 

[ATL Recs]

Not to be a Selles apologist, but I’m pretty sure the ones that were actually ‘panic buys’ are all the exact sort of players that Wilder would have signed anyway.

Jamie Hoyland signings

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

Our 'straws to cling on to' are : -

A return to fitness and form for both Arblaster & Hamer
A permenantly fit Tom Davies
A successful January Loan Window.

It needs all 3 and we may have a chance.

Kin ell, you need Sootys magic wand or stop smoking them spliffs.

 

[Willglynning]

On the contrary, I don't believe Wilder would have signed the majority of the players we signed under Selles.

Non seem to have the bollocks to play in one of his teams, a fundamental requirement for CW.

The rot set in as soon as COH took over and unless they back him in January it's destined to get worse.

We'll never know- though some of those signings are definitely ones we've been linked with before when Wilder was in charge.

Nothing fundamentally changed when the new owners came in- it was the previous ownership that had us starting the campaign on -2 points; and poor game management that saw us throwing away games. You can argue this is fine margins, but we only got to the points total that we did last season because of fine margins anyway. Wilder was able to sign players, and wasted a significant amount of budget on Cannon and still continued to persist with Robinson.

This idea that Wilder only signs people with 'bollocks' is just complete fantasy, he's signed more than his fair share of duds over the years (with Tom Cannon arguably being the Crown-Prince of shite Wilder signings).

He's arguably been a spent force since the highs of the 19/20 season, and the willingness of people to try and lay blame on anything and everything but the manager is exhausting. He is not solely to blame for our current predicament, of course; but Wilder's return has been nothing short of underwhelming at best.

 

[54yrblade]

On the contrary, I don't believe Wilder would have signed the majority of the players we signed under Selles.

Non seem to have the bollocks to play in one of his teams, a fundamental requirement for CW.

The rot set in as soon as COH took over and unless they back him in January it's destined to get worse.

The rot set in during our first PL visit under CW & his owner mate.

Wasted money, awful (if any) real long term planning, owner unable to financially support us, Wilder leaving as we stank the place out.

That time is still impacting us.

It's not just a recent thing.