It's NOT the manager

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As frustrated as we all are at the moment, we need to remember that it's not Adkin's fault.

Yes he makes mistakes, yes he will start players that we don't agree with, yes his tactics may confuse at times.

But the problems at this club start much higher than the manager.

Wilson, Morgan, Weir, Clough, Adkins. And that's simply since relegation.

They aren't all incompetent. (Even if there's a good argument that Weir maybe).

Our issues begin and end with the people who incompetently run this football club.

What would be the point of losing yet another manager ( with the best CV of ANY since Warnock) to get yet another one in who would have to work under these owners.

The men at the top have sent us into the wilderness and that's where we'll stay until some or all if them leave.

We were here long before they arrived. We'll be here long after they've gone. We are this club.

Something has to change. And it isn't the manager.
 



It's some sort of concotion of Adkins, the academy, blades mad, the fans and the choice of beers on selection.

It could in no way shape or form, ever, be the boards fault.
 
Agreed, Adkins is not the problem. Total waste of time changing the manager. Whilst McCabe poisons the board room this club is going further downwards.
He's been able to sign two players for christ sake. Plus three loans. Rarely are good players available on loan at this level.
How he was ever talked into joining us, god knows what lies were told.
He's had to make do with the crap left by Clough.
McCabe has hated Blades fans since we forced the sacking of his chum Robson. He'll never forgive and will happily see the club sink into the fourth div.
 
But based on many things that have nothing to do with the incompetent board he works for, Adkins doesn't look to be part of the solution.
 
Completely agree. If we get rid of Adkins we'll probably end up down here even longer, what with paying off him and his staff to get somebody in who has less experience and less talent than him who will probably waste the money in a similar manner to Clough.
 
As frustrated as we all are at the moment, we need to remember that it's not Adkin's fault.

Yes he makes mistakes, yes he will start players that we don't agree with, yes his tactics may confuse at times.

But the problems at this club start much higher than the manager.

Wilson, Morgan, Weir, Clough, Adkins. And that's simply since relegation.

They aren't all incompetent. (Even if there's a good argument that Weir maybe).

Our issues begin and end with the people who incompetently run this football club.

What would be the point of losing yet another manager ( with the best CV of ANY since Warnock) to get yet another one in who would have to work under these owners.

The men at the top have sent us into the wilderness and that's where we'll stay until some or all if them leave.

We were here long before they arrived. We'll be here long after they've gone. We are this club.

Something has to change. And it isn't the manager.
I agree totally, it's not adkins's fault,yes he does make some strange decisions at times but he's having to work with what he's got which unfortunately is'nt much and seems it's going to be the same for the next 12 months or so. The blame lays entirely with the board but for them to appoint adkins which btw was the fans choice aswell and not support him in anywhich way possible i find ludacris,we will be here the fans much longer after mcabe and is yes men have gone,i'm at lowest point since losing to altrincham in the f.a cup,so please mcabe and friends.........FUCK OFF
 
I think it was an excellent decision to employ Adkins. A pretty much universally approved appointment.

The absolute best choice we could have gone for in my opinion.

But he's not a magician.

He has to be given the chance to show why he has multiple promotions on his cv.
 
I understand the point you're making but I think it's the other way around, especially this season. It's the manager that has to take the majority of the blame. He's brought in Woolford, Edgar, Hammond and Sammon. Alright Sharp's hasn't been as bad but four out of the five have been out and out mistakes. That clogged up the squad even more and prevented us signing what we didn't in the aforementioned players in January. The fee we paid for Sharp and the wages we'll be paying the other four isn't exactly a low amount of money, and I'd wager it's more of an expenditure than most of the other teams in this division. Probably Wigan and Coventry as obvious exceptions. Without taking away from the board's obvious failings, Adkins is getting away with a lot more than he should be by the supporters in my opinion.
 



Of course he needs time and I wouldn't advocate sacking him now, and would hope he gets another two seasons at least. However, the things he has done so far haven't inspired me at all. He's been worse than Clough was last season.
 
But based on many things that have nothing to do with the incompetent board he works for, Adkins doesn't look to be part of the solution.

No Adkins is unfortunately becoming part of the problem.

Cannot get rid of the board , as they will not sack themselves , and we have nobody to replace them . Adkins becomes the fall guy , but to be fair , like Clough , he has not helped himself . It's not Adkins fault doesn't wash IMO , like it or like it not , he is part of the problem equation . Good job he is a honest Joe , and doesn't take his money under false pretences . We have to stick with him , no choice . Let's hope he doesn't walk.

UTB
 
I understand the point you're making but I think it's the other way around, especially this season. It's the manager that has to take the majority of the blame. He's brought in Woolford, Edgar, Hammond and Sammon. Alright Sharp's hasn't been as bad but four out of the five have been out and out mistakes. That clogged up the squad even more and prevented us signing what we didn't in the aforementioned players in January. The fee we paid for Sharp and the wages we'll be paying the other four isn't exactly a low amount of money, and I'd wager it's more of an expenditure than most of the other teams in this division. Probably Wigan and Coventry as obvious exceptions. Without taking away from the board's obvious failings, Adkins is getting away with a lot more than he should be by the supporters in my opinion.
Edgar has been alright, not that bad to be honest. Woolford was a free, brought in before we set up a scouting network. It's unsure whether the Sammon deal was in place when we had Clough as manager. Hammond hasn't been particularly good but the only player he's actually bought with a fee was pretty good in Sharp. If he was seriously backed in the same way that a lot of other clubs have been then we'd do alright to be honest.
 
Mr Clough left us with in my opinion one of the worst squads I've seen at the lane. To me that's the boards fault they let him buy a load of rubbish over rated and over paid. To top it signed them on contracts that were way too long. The board should have stepped in and not given him the funds to spend. I think that Mr Clough has walked Scott free from this club. He gets the burton job and we are left to pick up the pieces of his terrible tenure at the blades. Mr Adkins can only work with what he is given either players or monitory. Hopefully next season when we replace the out of contract players I hope the board back the manager responsibly. We will see UTB
 
I understand the point you're making but I think it's the other way around, especially this season. It's the manager that has to take the majority of the blame. He's brought in Woolford, Edgar, Hammond and Sammon. Alright Sharp's hasn't been as bad but four out of the five have been out and out mistakes. That clogged up the squad even more and prevented us signing what we didn't in the aforementioned players in January. The fee we paid for Sharp and the wages we'll be paying the other four isn't exactly a low amount of money, and I'd wager it's more of an expenditure than most of the other teams in this division. Probably Wigan and Coventry as obvious exceptions. He's getting away with a lot more than he should be by the supporters in my opinion.


I wish I could point out what's going wrong, its just so puzzling.

Owner - has put in £M's and whilst he's protected his investment somewhat the cash is still flowing.

Manager - what a CV, still think deep-down he is about as good as we can get in the 3rd division but:
signings made have been poor [not BS]
lack of signings in key positions have been poor [where are the c/h's?]

Fans - say no more

Club - best in the land


I really have this gut feeling that the clear out at the end of this season will be a turning point.
 
I think we should start with the eleven players on the pitch.

Sadly, just not quite good enough as a group.

HH
 
Sorry but the OP is not a light bulb moment one or two of us so called negative posters have been telling you all for years that the main problem at SUFC lies in the boardroom' no doubt William Henry Foulkes and Sean Thornton and a few others will be along shortly to defend them. Every manager since we were relegated has had the best players sold from under them and have ended up being the fall guys for McCabe and his clueless cronies, no doubt Nigel Adkins is heading down the same road but bleedin hell the guy don't help himself piss poor signings piss poor tactics ................................ I'm not 100% sure I'd trust him to spend my money wisely if I was the owner.
 
I wish I could point out what's going wrong, its just so puzzling.

Owner - has put in £M's and whilst he's protected his investment somewhat the cash is still flowing.

Manager - what a CV, still think deep-down he is about as good as we can get in the 3rd division but:
signings made have been poor [not BS]
lack of signings in key positions have been poor [where are the c/h's?]

Fans - say no more

Club - best in the land


I really have this gut feeling that the clear out at the end of this season will be a turning point.

We are better off than some and worst off than others . If we can keep in this division ( and not get relegated , as dafter things have happened in years gone by ) , the summer can only be a positive . Adkins has also got to learn from his mistakes , as he is not a innocent party or passenger in this seasons mess.

Play off spot this season is becoming a bit of a dream .

Let's hope Adkins still has the fight and bottle to be a winner . If so the combination of fans and Adkins will be the winning formula . Which ever way you look at it we cannot rely on the board , which is the albatross around our necks.

We the fans owe this club nothing , it's payback time from Adkins and his staff with no prisoners next season.

UTB
 
As frustrated as we all are at the moment, we need to remember that it's not Adkin's fault.

Yes he makes mistakes, yes he will start players that we don't agree with, yes his tactics may confuse at times.

But the problems at this club start much higher than the manager.

Wilson, Morgan, Weir, Clough, Adkins. And that's simply since relegation.

They aren't all incompetent. (Even if there's a good argument that Weir maybe).

Our issues begin and end with the people who incompetently run this football club.

What would be the point of losing yet another manager ( with the best CV of ANY since Warnock) to get yet another one in who would have to work under these owners.

The men at the top have sent us into the wilderness and that's where we'll stay until some or all if them leave.

We were here long before they arrived. We'll be here long after they've gone. We are this club.

Something has to change. And it isn't the manager.

I agree that it's the fault of the board. However, Adkins has taken a squad that finished comfortably 5th, and taken them backwards. He's not had much backing, but he chose to bring in sammon, Hammond, Edgar and woolford. Sharp was a good signing. He also chose to 'give everyone a chance', when he should have made changes straight away in the summer.

Adkins has made some major mistakes and is struggling tactically and to motivate the players.

All this blaming Clough is bollocks. The board chose to sack him, jizzed their pants over spending all that money on Brayford, and sold Murphy. No one knows what clough may have done in the summer etc. I also think that clough would have us in the top 6 right now, it might not be pretty, but he would have got results and would be tactically smarter than Adkins.

The board have ruined this club, but Adkins has had a mare this season and needs to improve quickly.
 
In my opinion in the final 17 games NA has to pick his game up, I want to see something that will convince me he is capable of moving this football team forward. The limitations of many of these players is well documented, but the reality is NC secured a playoff spot with most of this squad. NA signings should have improved the team it hasn't, results and performances confirm that as fact. I have no preference for NC or NA, NC certainly lost the plot last year and NA hasn't improved anything this year. At present I have little confidence NA will spend any money the owners actually give him wisely, that is based on his 5 signings so far.
 
Sorry but the OP is not a light bulb moment one or two of us so called negative posters have been telling you all for years that the main problem at SUFC lies in the boardroom' no doubt William Henry Foulkes and Sean Thornton and a few others will be along shortly to defend them. Every manager since we were relegated has had the best players sold from under them and have ended up being the fall guys for McCabe and his clueless cronies, no doubt Nigel Adkins is heading down the same road but bleedin hell the guy don't help himself piss poor signings piss poor tactics ................................ I'm not 100% sure I'd trust him to spend my money wisely if I was the owner.


I've hardly defended them and if you cared to read what I post rather than just assume you'd see that.
What I have done is commented on the riduculous ideas about finance and allegations of fraud etc that idiots post in order to try and make their opinions more valid.

It's not news to anyone when "so called negative posters" repeat their daily mantra about us being in the shit. Apart from a couple, everyone can see it. You don't have some insight into the problems we face and aren't in some sort of special club who can see more clearly than the rest of us. You just harp on about it more.
 
As frustrated as we all are at the moment, we need to remember that it's not Adkin's fault.

Yes he makes mistakes, yes he will start players that we don't agree with, yes his tactics may confuse at times.

But the problems at this club start much higher than the manager.

Wilson, Morgan, Weir, Clough, Adkins. And that's simply since relegation.

They aren't all incompetent. (Even if there's a good argument that Weir maybe).

Our issues begin and end with the people who incompetently run this football club.

What would be the point of losing yet another manager ( with the best CV of ANY since Warnock) to get yet another one in who would have to work under these owners.

The men at the top have sent us into the wilderness and that's where we'll stay until some or all if them leave.

We were here long before they arrived. We'll be here long after they've gone. We are this club.

Something has to change. And it isn't the manager.
Adkins is shite, make no mistake, but the players let him down today like they have all season.

They're neither honest nor hard working when:
-Hammond cramps after 58min
- Baxter is physically fooked from 70mins
- Adams has piled on about 10kgs since the start of the season.
- Collins
 
Adkins is shite, make no mistake, but the players let him down today like they have all season.

They're neither honest nor hard working when:
-Hammond cramps after 58min
- Baxter is physically fooked from 70mins
- Adams has piled on about 10kgs since the start of the season.
- Collins

He isn't though. Clearly. That's the point.
 



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