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In what way does that article indicate that Pembo is ruling himself out?

It talks of him being open minded and working with players of all ages including First Team.
 
He says he enjoys doing what he's doing, surely if he was ruling himself in he would be saying he was looking to work in different areas.....
 
Yesterday I was chatting to a Blade who always seems to be remarkably well-informed. He told me that he'd heard that Pembo is happy at the Academy and is not seeking the additional stress of being a club manager. Maybe he feels he's found his level, and he must be getting a lot of job satisfaction right now. We can only hope that a 'bigger club' doesn't offer him megabucks to run their academy.
 
From the Yorkshire Post

Youngsters come first as Blades plot new direction By Nick Westby
Published on Monday 23 May 2011 08:25


THE fallout from tonight’s FA Youth Cup final could shape the future of Sheffield United.


No matter the outcome at Old Trafford, how hard the Blades work to keep their young stars at the club could determine their destiny over the next few years.

It is John Pemberton’s job to persuade the likes of Harry Maguire, Jordan Slew and Callum McFadzean to continue their education at Bramall Lane and the Academy chief is eager for the club to reap the benefits long term.

The last Yorkshire team to reach a Youth Cup final – Middlesbrough in 2004 – went on to net the Riverside club more than £28m.

Sheffield United have already reaped £10m from the sale of Kyle Walker and Kyle Naughton two years ago.

But with this current crop, chairman Kevin McCabe and Academy manager Pemberton want to keep hold of their young stars as long as they possibly can.

Pemberton has a burning desire to prove wrong those who say coaches without management experience are not deserving of a chance to manage football clubs.

But for the immediate future, the youngsters come first for the former FA Cup finalist with Crystal Palace.

He wants the youth team’s footballing ethos that has been the hallmark of their cup run to be replicated in the first team as Sheffield United attempt to bounce back from relegation to League One.

“If you’re going to progress you have got to do something different,” he says. “Look at all the teams in the play-offs this year, they all play football.

“This club is tarnished with the way they play, a certain type of player they buy, and that’s a problem. I was part of it, I played for Dave Bassett. He went for players who had hearts as big as buckets.

“At Leeds United I became a better player because I played with good players.

“Hopefully, the fans appreciate what we are trying to do and that this club is ready for a change of direction.

“We’ve started the process in the Academy and, hopefully, we can take it right the way through. This philosophy has to go into the first team. If not, what’s the point in the Academy doing what it is doing?”

Among the strengths he believes will help the Blades bridge the gulf in class to Manchester United tonight, is a determination to play football that will help facilitate that sea change over the long term.

“Technically, our players can pass a ball, they’re not embarrassed with a ball at their feet,” he says. “And they don’t give in. We don’t have any big-time Charlies.

“The players have got a spirit and they want to play for this club. We probably just don’t have that strength in depth that United have got.

“This job is all about nurturing talent. One of the things the lads have struggled to deal with is the success.

“I spend a lot of time working with the parents, trying to implement things like discipline and nutrition. It’s no point them getting in the car to leave training with a diet plan tucked under their arm and going straight to McDonald’s.

“Parents have more time with these kids than we do. So we want the parents to be part of what we’re doing.”

If changing philosophies at Bramall Lane may be difficult, convincing chairmen that a depth of knowledge outside management positions is ample experience for the top jobs in football, is becoming a source of frustration for the 46-year-old.

“I have coached six-year-old kids, youth teams, development teams, reserve teams and I’ve worked with England Under-19s,” continues Pemberton, whose work with the youth team has been greatly appreciated by McCabe, a factor that may count against him if he were to enter the race for the vacant first-team manager’s job.

“If my forte is to work with young kids then so be it. But I would like to think I would make a difference at any level I would go into.

“What drives me insane is when people say of coaches ‘they’ve got no managerial experience’. But some first-team managers are experienced people who have worked at a lot of different levels and they’ve studied the game.

“Does somebody who has managed Lincoln for 12 months and been sacked, have more experiencee than someone like me who hasn’t managed but has been involved at certain levels? I think it’s nonsense.

“How much experience had Brendan Rogers had before he went to Watford? How much experience had Brian McDermott had when he went to Reading? How much experience did Gus Poyet have? He’s got loads after coaching at Leeds and Tottenham.

“They’ve got unbelievable experience and knowledge from working at different levels in the game. And now they’re sought after.

“I’m not crying out for someone to give me a chance. I’m just sick of people saying you don’t have any experience.

“It’s wrong to say because I’ve not managed at any level you’re not going to get a chance. So what clubs do is pass the same managers around. It’s just ridiculous.”

What Sheffield United need is continuity; of players, of staff, of principles.

The best thing to emerge from the FA Youth Cup run may be that Pemberton is the man to deliver that.
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The more I see of Pemberton's team, the more I hear the man speak, the more he tells of his ethos and the values he demands on and off the pitch and the more I look at his background, knowledge and experience as a winning coach. The more I think, feck it, give him the job.
 
He wants the youth team’s footballing ethos that has been the hallmark of their cup run to be replicated in the first team as Sheffield United attempt to bounce back from relegation to League One.

“If you’re going to progress you have got to do something different,” he says. “Look at all the teams in the play-offs this year, they all play football.

“This club is tarnished with the way they play, a certain type of player they buy, and that’s a problem. I was part of it, I played for Dave Bassett. He went for players who had hearts as big as buckets.

“At Leeds United I became a better player because I played with good players.

“Hopefully, the fans appreciate what we are trying to do and that this club is ready for a change of direction.

“We’ve started the process in the Academy and, hopefully, we can take it right the way through. This philosophy has to go into the first team. If not, what’s the point in the Academy doing what it is doing?”



It's all pointing towards Boothroyd being appointed manager.
 
Hmm.....sounds to me like he's not necessarily looking for a career change but isn't ruling anything out. Personally, I would trust Pembo if he took charge of first team affairs. I think he's a bright coach and the players would respect him so he's worth a punt. I just worry his influence in the academy would be a little diluted but maybe he could manage the situation and keep a firm hand in it.
 
I think he definitely wants it but is being careful not to burn any bridges in case he doesn't get the job.

I reckon Pembo will be appointed tomorrow morning.
 
Thing is though, he only fits half the main criteria. His philosophy is about passing the ball but he has no experience as a manager in League One. I understand what he's saying about coaches being ruled out because of perceived inexperience and I dont think it should be a hard and fast rule either.....but based on what KM said a couple of weeks ago, Pembo doesn't have half of what he's looking for. If KM appoints Pembo now I would be content but it would just show that KM says one thing and means another.
 
SteelCity Blade said:
Thing is though, he only fits half the main criteria. His philosophy is about passing the ball but he has no experience as a manager in League One. I understand what he's saying about coaches being ruled out because of perceived inexperience and I dont think it should be a hard and fast rule either.....but based on what KM said a couple of weeks ago, Pembo doesn't have half of what he's looking for. If KM appoints Pembo now I would be content but it would just show that KM says one thing and means another.
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I think KMC is being pragmatic rather than disingenuous.

RDM is still my first choice, but disappointingly that appointment seems unlikely to happen.

Since Mickys departure Pembo is the dark horse who has stormed through on the rails.

He talks a good game and seems to have a very clear vision of what he wants to achieve. At youth team level he has also shown he can walk the walk.

My gut feeling is that he is the right man at the right time.
 
It certainly makes more sense to set him on the more you think about it. There is still that niggling doubt about the effect on the academy but I suppose someone would have to succeed him eventually anyway! His comments in the star this morning would suggest he wouldn't say no if it was offered.....but the comments on the o/s say something entirely different. Who knows?!
 

The more contenders I see the more I want to give the job to Pembo. Let him bring in his own experienced right hand man. To me he has all the tools and commands respect.

There are not many manager's who either tick both boxes or have ticked both boxes recently. Let Pembo bring in the guy from Forest to run the kids and off we go. I certainly have more faith in pembo not to waste any budgets on rubbish players when he knows exactly what his lads can do.
 
It's a strange one alright. I too was dead against him getting the job but, as with the above posters, the more I hear from him and the more I consider the other possibilities, the more I think we should offer him the job.

What other candidate would start with as much goodwill and support? Who else affordable could even begin to change the ethos of the club? What he has done with the academy is a fantastic achievement. From what I read, he seems to have a very good grasp of the problems at the club too.

I thought before that it was time to take a punt and to steer well clear of the merry-go-round managers. I was leaning towards Tisdale but now can't really make a strong enough case for him above Pembo.

Only two considerations really. Who would he bring in as his assistant and who would take over the academy?
 
Rustyblade said:
It's a strange one alright. I too was dead against him getting the job but, as with the above posters, the more I hear from him and the more I consider the other possibilities, the more I think we should offer him the job.

What other candidate would start with as much goodwill and support? Who else affordable could even begin to change the ethos of the club? What he has done with the academy is a fantastic achievement. From what I read, he seems to have a very good grasp of the problems at the club too.

I thought before that it was time to take a punt and to steer well clear of the merry-go-round managers. I was leaning towards Tisdale but now can't really make a strong enough case for him above Pembo.

Only two considerations really. Who would he bring in as his assistant and who would take over the academy?
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I would trust Pembo to make the right appointments, he comes across as being intelligent, strong-willed and with very clear ideas of what he wants to build.

I am certain that he would have no problems finding kindred spirits as his Assistant Manager and new Youth Team boss.
 
BladeHearts said:
I would trust Pembo to make the right appointments, he comes across as being intelligent, strong-willed and with very clear ideas of what he wants to build.

I am certain that he would have no problems finding kindred spirits as his Assistant Manager and new Youth Team boss.
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With you there BH
- Poyet had no managerial experience but plenty of coaching and assitant experience. Brighton powered through the division last year playing attractive, attacking football.

N.B. Not what Speed was delivering by the way - that was turgid, defensive, low risk, garbage.
 
If pembo does get it then I think that Bassett will end up as his number two or at least involved (theres your experience)
 
I made a strong case for Pembo last week, and that is still the case for me.

The one other name i had heard from an usually reliable ITK source at the times of Adams sacking was McClaren, but the more time goes on, the more i just don't think it is going to happen.

Pembo has struck me as being intelligent, with a clear sense of what he is going to achieve, and how to achieve it, and i think he would be a great appointment.

By appointing Pembo we have got a great chance of starting with a clean slate, and starting a new era, by not appointing him and bringing in someone like Boothroyd, it is a case of the same old, same old, and we will have thrown away a great chance to start afresh.
 
brownie said:
I made a strong case for Pembo last week, and that is still the case for me.

The one other name i had heard from an usually reliable ITK source at the times of Adams sacking was McClaren, but the more time goes on, the more i just don't think it is going to happen.

Pembo has struck me as being intelligent, with a clear sense of what he is going to achieve, and how to achieve it, and i think he would be a great appointment.

By appointing Pembo we have got a great chance of starting with a clean slate, and starting a new era, by not appointing him and bringing in someone like Boothroyd, it is a case of the same old, same old, and we will have thrown away a great chance to start afresh.
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Totally agree, its time for a new plan and hopefully the appointment of Pembo will be the start of a great era in Sheffield United's history.
 
Pemberton applied for the Lincoln City job almost two years ago, he was interviewed and was expected to get the job when out of nowhere Chris Sutton appeared and got the job. Sutton was a disaster for Lincoln and they are now regretting not giving it to to Pemberton.

Bert has no doubt that Pemberton will be very keen to land the United job.
 
Bert said:
Pemberton applied for the Lincoln City job almost two years ago, he was interviewed and was expected to get the job when out of nowhere Chris Sutton appeared and got the job.
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Oh well, at least he's not bitter and twisted about it... “Does somebody who has managed Lincoln for 12 months and been sacked, have more experience than someone like me who hasn’t managed but has been involved at certain levels? I think it’s nonsense" :)

I've said from the start I want Hill, Tisdale or Di Matteo (if he's interested). The more I hear about the people we're actually likely to end up with (Boothroyd, Wilson, Reid) the more convinced I am that Pemberton would be a good option.
 
Do you think that it all rides on the match tonight?
Win and he will be offered the job?
Lose and they will announce one of the other candidates?

Spending 15 years at the Forest Academy should certainly have given Pembo all the tools he needs for managing a thriving youth infrastructure. He talks a good game and on the evidense of what I watch last Tuesday, coaches a good game.

All these others are still a big risk - Tisdale, Hill - big fish in small pond currently - it's a different story when you manage a club with the crowd base and levels of expectation that we have. Pembo has played for us, L**ds and Palace and has played the big occasion so he knows the score. Makes sense to me that he should be given the opportunity to do what Poyet has done at Brighton and Adkins at Saints.
 
Kenilworth said:
Do you think that it all rides on the match tonight?
Win and he will be offered the job?
Lose and they will announce one of the other candidates?
Spending 15 years at the Forest Academy should certainly have given Pembo all the tools he needs for managing a thriving youth infrastructure. He talks a good game and on the evidense of what I watch last Tuesday, coaches a good game.

All these others are still a big risk - Tisdale, Hill - big fish in small pond currently - it's a different story when you manage a club with the crowd base and levels of expectation that we have. Pembo has played for us, L**ds and Palace and has played the big occasion so he knows the score. Makes sense to me that he should be given the opportunity to do what Poyet has done at Brighton and Adkins at Saints.
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Definitely not, it's a Youth Cup Final FFS, no-one ever expected us to get there and even McCabe wouldn't put so much onus on his appointment of a new manager.
 
Torrix1889 said:
Definitely not, it's a Youth Cup Final FFS, no-one ever expected us to get there and even McCabe wouldn't put so much onus on his appointment of a new manager.
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Yeah, right. So there was that much logic used for previous appointments?

I wouldn't rule it out Torrers.
 
Kenilworth said:
Do you think that it all rides on the match tonight?
Win and he will be offered the job?
Lose and they will announce one of the other candidates?

Spending 15 years at the Forest Academy should certainly have given Pembo all the tools he needs for managing a thriving youth infrastructure. He talks a good game and on the evidense of what I watch last Tuesday, coaches a good game.

All these others are still a big risk - Tisdale, Hill - big fish in small pond currently - it's a different story when you manage a club with the crowd base and levels of expectation that we have. Pembo has played for us, L**ds and Palace and has played the big occasion so he knows the score. Makes sense to me that he should be given the opportunity to do what Poyet has done at Brighton and Adkins at Saints.
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That's a harsh job interview...... "right Mr Pemberton we've been very impressed with your efforts thus far, all we need you to do now is go to Old Trafford in a cup final and beat Man Utd away from home. It should be a piece of cake they could only manage a 4-0 win against Chelsea in the home leg of their semi!"
 

BladeHearts said:
That's a harsh job interview...... "right Mr Pemberton we've been very impressed with your efforts thus far, all we need you to do know is go to Old Trafford in a cup final and beat Man Utd away from home. It should be a piece of cake they could only manage a 4-0 win against Cheese in the home leg of their semi!"
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piece of cheesecake ?
 
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