It is possible

[boo radley]

It would certainly help us understand the sacking a bit more.

Do we get that info after any sacking?

 

[sheffielder]

Nah I don't think he would like that.

Not sure he likes anything

 

[PeteBlade]

Nah I don't think he would like that.

If you bought the half time pints I'd love it.

 

[BladeFisher]

Can I ask why people wanted to keep Adkins, what was there to build on?

Shifting sand?

 

[Ecco1889]

Quite a few people have mentioned that there was a non play off clause in his contract. There must be or we will be shelling out at least 1m on Adkins leaving and compo for wilder and his team. We will have to wait till the books are out next year unless our mate Sunjihi fills in the blanks in the meantime.

Yes,sunjihi will know,come on mate,put this one to bed please

 

[boo radley]

Just so we are all in agreement?? Is there anyone who wants a new manager to fail? We very well may not agree with a sacking but when the new man comes in I am 100% sure that we all want the new man to succeed, even if we have doubts about his potential to succeed surly no one want the frustrated satisfaction of "I told you so" upon his failure.

 

[BladeFisher]

Quite a few people have mentioned that there was a non play off clause in his contract. There must be or we will be shelling out at least 1m on Adkins leaving and compo for wilder and his team. We will have to wait till the books are out next year unless our mate Sunjihi fills in the blanks in the meantime.

If there was then he must have known that there was a good chance he'd be flying off from the SUFC nest when he made the comments last weekend, which makes them a little more unpalatable.

I thought they were unreasonable though us fans aren't trying to get the best out of 14 blokes in willing them to win, whilst the manage and his staff are.

 

[BladeFisher]

When was the last time we hired a a manager who was still In a job?

Micky Adams?

 

[bladesmanluke]

Is this the fabled clause?

Precisely. It was a good move and is becoming more and more common

 

[robbiez666]

Just so we are all in agreement?? Is there anyone who wants a new manager to fail? We very well may not agree with a sacking but when the new man comes in I am 100% sure that we all want the new man to succeed, even if we have doubts about his potential to succeed surly no one want the frustrated satisfaction of "I told you so" upon his failure.

Adkins (and maybe Speed) were probably the only popular manager appointments since Warnock. Most have been met with mixed reactions.

Wilder is a much better appointment than most, but regardless, we want to be successful. We want every manager to be successful and I believe everyone will be behind Wilder when we kick-off next season.

 

[wizadry]

Do we get that info after any sacking?

Point taken, mate but it would be nice.

 

[stringjunior]

My personal view:

McCabe - don't dislike the bloke, can't fault him for putting money in. But on the flip side he doesn't seem to have a clue about running a football club.

Adkins - would have kept him, think he would have got it right eventually and we would have seen that next season with a lot of Clough's crap gone and his own players in but never know now.

Wilder - not against him getting the job, had Adkins quit then I would have been 100% behind getting him. I just didn't think it was a good idea to blow millions on getting rid of Adkins, his coaches and paying Northampton compensation. With that expenditure I would want someone like Simon Grayson (obviously unrealistic) who would be more of a sure thing at league one level. I just don't really see Wilder as much, if any of an improvement on Adkins. But he's manager now and I'm 100% behind him.

^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^

 

[Maidenhead]

My personal view:

McCabe - don't dislike the bloke, can't fault him for putting money in. But on the flip side he doesn't seem to have a clue about running a football club.

Adkins - would have kept him, think he would have got it right eventually and we would have seen that next season with a lot of Clough's crap gone and his own players in but never know now.

Wilder - not against him getting the job, had Adkins quit then I would have been 100% behind getting him. I just didn't think it was a good idea to blow millions on getting rid of Adkins, his coaches and paying Northampton compensation. With that expenditure I would want someone like Simon Grayson (obviously unrealistic) who would be more of a sure thing at league one level. I just don't really see Wilder as much, if any of an improvement on Adkins. But he's manager now and I'm 100% behind him.

My views too.

I know I'm in a small minority but I actually like and respect McCabe. We'd have many more problems than a 6th season in the 3rd division without him

Completely agree with the rest.,

 

[Bladeinleeds]

McCabe - too much corporate speak and has never learnt that the only way to be successful is to keep your squad together.

Adkins - think it was good appointment and just didn't work out. I can count the number of good games we played last year on the fingers of one finger. He lost me with some of his post match interviews he never identified in there what problem actually was only platitudes and no solutions and no improvement what so ever.

Wilder - too soon to tell. But has spoken well and seems to have earned his shot. First impression he feels like a good fit in the Way adkins, clough, weir and Adams never did.

 

[boo radley]

Point taken, mate but it would be nice.

I agree. Like the non footballing reasons.

 

[wizadry]

I know I'm in a small minority but I actually like and respect McCabe. We'd have many more problems than a 6th season in the 3rd division without him

I don't know how anyone can prove this mate. He's clueless when it comes to football but obviously has good business sense which sort of tells you it's own story and what he concentrates on more.

 

[judge]

Does anyone else put ketchup on baked beans ? My missus does it and I cant see the point

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

Adkins in/out; Wilder in/out; Uncle Tom Cobbley in/out. This won't make a jot of difference while those running the club do so in such a self-destructive way. Clough has a lot to answer for but that was mainly due to what he was allowed to get away with by an incompentent board.

 

[alcoblade]

To

-Dislike Mcabe
-Agree that Adkins needed to go
- And think that Wilder is a good appointment

Each on their own merit - what we appear to have again is those who wanted Adkins to stay not liking Wilder appointment.

The logic of some on here appears to be defend Adkins cos Mcabe sacked him and Wilder is a cheap Bladey Blade appointment.

I didn't want to sack Adkins, I'm
happy with Wilder but think McCabe is incompetent.

UTB

 

[Blade82]

We'd have many more problems than a 6th season in the 3rd division without him

Our lowest league finish in God knows how long. We're further down the leagues than when he came in. Your argument is purely guess work, it could be countered by saying we could be in the champions league without him. The facts show that this football club is in a worse position now than when he took charge.

 

[bornablade]

I think Wilder's a good appointment. Good record working with little, like his style of play and he's clearly got a decent eye for a player. Seems extremely pragmatic as well. However, not convinced he can be as successful at a higher level.
If Adkins was sacked on purely footballing reasons then I think it's a ridiculous decision. If it was for other reasons then fine
As for our smug and 'unlucky' co-owner, I think he's a tit. Two-faced and constantly says one thing then does another.

'.... not convinced he can be as successful at a higher level'

Wonder if Bournemouth fans felt the same way about Eddie Howe.

 

[Maidenhead]

Our lowest league finish in God knows how long. We're further down the leagues than when he came in. Your argument is purely guess work, it could be countered by saying we could be in the champions league without him. The facts show that this football club is in a worse position now than when he took charge.

My guess is that without his money we'd be playing in a three sided ground in the National Leagues.

Yeah he's made mistakes but I haven't seen a queue of other people wanting to put millions in the club and getting turned away.

 

[metalblade]

I thought Adkins was a superb appointment but having very quickly realised that he was never going to get the backing that Clough enjoyed and squandered I expected it to be a struggle for him and so it proved. Adkins made some big mistakes and in the end can't have too many complaints on losing his job. That said he was just the latest in a long line of scapegoats for the failings of Kevin McCabe who I think is behind everything that is wrong at Bramall Lane, the one constant in our decline since 2007.
Chris Wilder a leap into the unknown maybe he is the next Warnock and will take the club by the scruff and sort it out or maybe he will be the next Mickey Adams who can't handle the pressure and difficulties of managing a club of this size. One thing is for sure when the season starts every Blade will wish him the best and hope he succeeds. No one wants him to become the next McCabe scapegoat but I just cannot see him being backed with anything more than a shoestring lets hope he has the luck that McCabe says is all that is missing because I cannot for the life of me see where just adding half a team from that academy U21's will cut it in a promotion push.

 

[metalblade]

I thought Adkins was a superb appointment but having very quickly realised that he was never going to get the backing that Clough enjoyed and squandered I expected it to be a struggle for him and so it proved. Adkins made some big mistakes and in the end can't have too many complaints on losing his job. That said he was just the latest in a long line of scapegoats for the failings of Kevin McCabe who I think is behind everything that is wrong at Bramall Lane, the one constant in our decline since 2007.
Chris Wilder a leap into the unknown maybe he is the next Warnock and will take the club by the scruff and sort it out or maybe he will be the next Mickey Adams who can't handle the pressure and difficulties of managing a club of this size. One thing is for sure when the season starts every Blade will wish him the best and hope he succeeds. No one wants him to become the next McCabe scapegoat but I just cannot see him being backed with anything more than a shoestring lets hope he has the luck that McCabe says is all that is missing because I cannot for the life of me see where just adding half a team from that academy U21's will cut it in a promotion push.

 

[wizadry]

I thought Adkins was a superb appointment but having very quickly realised that he was never going to get the backing that Clough enjoyed and squandered I expected it to be a struggle for him and so it proved. Adkins made some big mistakes and in the end can't have too many complaints on losing his job. That said he was just the latest in a long line of scapegoats for the failings of Kevin McCabe who I think is behind everything that is wrong at Bramall Lane, the one constant in our decline since 2007.
Chris Wilder a leap into the unknown maybe he is the next Warnock and will take the club by the scruff and sort it out or maybe he will be the next Mickey Adams who can't handle the pressure and difficulties of managing a club of this size. One thing is for sure when the season starts every Blade will wish him the best and hope he succeeds. No one wants him to become the next McCabe scapegoat but I just cannot see him being backed with anything more than a shoestring lets hope he has the luck that McCabe says is all that is missing because I cannot for the life of me see where just adding half a team from that academy U21's will cut it in a promotion push.

You can fuck right off. I'm not giving you 'two likes'.

 

[DSB-91]

I don't dislike McCabe, he's poured money into the club for a long time. At the same time he's been the one constant across years of failure so he clearly has to accept some of the responsibility.

As for Adkins, I was never convinced. My mate is a Reading fan and he didn't have much positive to say about him while he was in charge down there. When he got the United job I wasn't as thrilled as many because I'd already heard about the weird post-match interviews, the poor signings etc. After seeing us get chewed out by Gillingham on the first day any optimism I had pretty much disappeared. Nothing against him, but I don't think he was ever going to be the right fit for us. While the rate we're burning through managers is becoming a joke, I think it was the right decision to sack him.

I obviously hope Wilder does well but I'm not going to pay attention to any of the press conferences, past successes/failures, whether he wears a tracksuit or a suit, whether he folds his arms or goes mental on the touchline. I'm not even going to keep track of who we sign this summer. I'll judge him on what he delivers on the pitch next season, until then I don't see much point criticising or celebrating his appointment.

 

[robbiez666]

'.... not convinced he can be as successful at a higher level'

Wonder if Bournemouth fans felt the same way about Eddie Howe.

You're right, but for every Eddie Howe there are 10 Micky Adams. There's a different breed of player the higher you go. What works for players at a small club on low wages may not work for those on bigger ages. I obviously hope he can be.