Is Wilder blind ?

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away form has cost us , only won 1 in 3 , 7 out of 21
all those in the top 7 away have positive gd
we dont

1 Wolverhampton 21 13 4 4 31 18 +13 43
2 Fulham 21 11 5 5 35 26 +9 38
3 Derby County 20 8 9 3 27 20 +7 33
4 Cardiff City 19 9 5 5 24 19 +5 32
5 Preston 21 8 8 5 27 23 +4 32
6 Aston Villa 21 9 4 8 26 22 +4 31
7 Middlesbrough 20 7 6 7 29 23 +6 27
8 Brentford 20 8 3 9 23 25 -2 27
9 Bristol City 21 6 9 6 25 28 -3 27
10 Norwich City 20 7 5 8 22 29 -7 26
11 Millwall 20 6 7 7 20 21 -1 25
12 Sheffield Utd 21 7 4 10 25 31 -6 25
13 Leeds Utd 20 7 3 10 25 31 -6 24
14 Ipswich Town 21 7 3 11 23 31 -8 24
15 Sheffield Wed 20 5 7 8 19 25 -6 22
16 Burton Albion 21 5 6 10 16 35 -19 21
17 Reading 20 5 5 10 23 31 -8 20
18 Nottm Forest 21 5 5 11 23 33 -10 20
19 Sunderland 21 4 8 9 26 37 -11 20
20 Barnsley 19 4 5 10 21 30 -9 17
21 Hull City 20 3 6 11 18 32 -14 15
22 QP Rangers 21 3 6 12 19 35 -16 15
23 Birmingham City 20 3 4 13 15 36 -21 13
24 Bolton 21 1 8 12 12 37 -25 11
 



blade too long said:
away form has cost us , only won 1 in 3 , 7 out of 21
all those in the top 7 away have positive gd
we dont

1 Wolverhampton 21 13 4 4 31 18 +13 43
2 Fulham 21 11 5 5 35 26 +9 38
3 Derby County 20 8 9 3 27 20 +7 33
4 Cardiff City 19 9 5 5 24 19 +5 32
5 Preston 21 8 8 5 27 23 +4 32
6 Aston Villa 21 9 4 8 26 22 +4 31
7 Middlesbrough 20 7 6 7 29 23 +6 27
8 Brentford 20 8 3 9 23 25 -2 27
9 Bristol City 21 6 9 6 25 28 -3 27
10 Norwich City 20 7 5 8 22 29 -7 26
11 Millwall 20 6 7 7 20 21 -1 25
12 Sheffield Utd 21 7 4 10 25 31 -6 25
13 Leeds Utd 20 7 3 10 25 31 -6 24
14 Ipswich Town 21 7 3 11 23 31 -8 24
15 Sheffield Wed 20 5 7 8 19 25 -6 22
16 Burton Albion 21 5 6 10 16 35 -19 21
17 Reading 20 5 5 10 23 31 -8 20
18 Nottm Forest 21 5 5 11 23 33 -10 20
19 Sunderland 21 4 8 9 26 37 -11 20
20 Barnsley 19 4 5 10 21 30 -9 17
21 Hull City 20 3 6 11 18 32 -14 15
22 QP Rangers 21 3 6 12 19 35 -16 15
23 Birmingham City 20 3 4 13 15 36 -21 13
24 Bolton 21 1 8 12 12 37 -25 11
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I wonder where Bolton won at? :D
 
derekacorah said:
I don't agree with the "tired" comments. These are professional athletes with good diets and conditioning coaches. They have all pretty much had a rest at one time or another. If we played 3 or 4 games in a week then I'd agree about the tiredness, as we stand they should be fine.
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It’s all relative. Of course they’re not tired compared to you or I but to their competitors they are - makes a difference when playing that final ball in the box or sticking with your man in the 91st minute
 
Rodders said:
It’s all relative. Of course they’re not tired compared to you or I but to their competitors they are - makes a difference when playing that final ball in the box or sticking with your man in the 91st minute
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Why are they less fit than their competitors? We have a couple of players who can’t last 90 mins and are invariably replaced after 70 mins each game, the rest are fit enough. Wilder made a big thing about fit we were at the start of the season so I don’t think tiredness is an excuse.
 
derekacorah said:
Why are they less fit than their competitors? We have a couple of players who can’t last 90 mins and are invariably replaced after 70 mins each game, the rest are fit enough. Wilder made a big thing about fit we were at the start of the season so I don’t think tiredness is an excuse.
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At the start of the season we out worked, pestered and pressed just about every side we faced into submission. Without a bigger squad I'm not sure it's possible to maintain that.
 
With three games a week for most of this calendar year every manager has to rotate players as injuries, suspensions etc take effect. We don't know which players are carrying knocks or whether shape and tactics are changed somewhat to suit the opposition. I don't think yesterday's first half can be put down to any individual, more a collective and disappointing 45 minutes. I was sat up with the Barnsley fans (my Barnsley mate endured the 90 mins at BL). It seemed to me that yesterday we started trying to keep possession and take the sting out of Barnsley and keep the crowd quiet. It didn't work well enough as we seemed to get rushed off the ball or make poor passing decisions. That got the crowd fired up a bit. We made no real progress to threaten their goal and appeared toothless. Having said that the goal we conceded was a great strike from a player who hasn't scored for 18 months. Oh for one of our players to score like that. Wilder's sprint down the touchline to get to the dreaaing room before the players suggested some stern words might be said. The change in the second half from when Brooks went off andf Duffy came on was remarkable. An excellent 25 minutes when we scored twice and could and should have scored more. We looked confident, moved the ball well and far more quickly than the first half and were pinning them back. From one extreme to another. The home fans near me were expecting a score of 3 or 4-1 if they were lucky. One was getting ready to leave as soon as a third goal went in. I think our players, probably subconsciously, took their foot off the gas to some extent and didn't go for the jugular. We again started making one or two silly errors which got their crowd lifted again especially a poor pass by Fleck which let them break and which we were lucky to get away with. Their second goal seemed to come as a lack of cover for Stephens when Hamill cut inside, a bit like Snodgrass did for Villa. A coincidence or a weakness in our set up? I didn't get a good sight of what happened with Moore as my view was obstructed. I wonder if the number of times we have conceded late goals is now a real mental thing for the players and the tendency is always for teams to sit deep and try and hold out. Whatever, it was a disappointing end to put it mildly to a match that at one stage I thought we were going to win. I had that same sick feeling I had after the Cardiff match.
 
Is this the first wilder has, "lost the plot", post?

Has got to be the most benal phrase in football
 
derekacorah said:
Why are they less fit than their competitors? We have a couple of players who can’t last 90 mins and are invariably replaced after 70 mins each game, the rest are fit enough. Wilder made a big thing about fit we were at the start of the season so I don’t think tiredness is an excuse.
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Our game, certainly in the first half of this season was built on pressing the oppositon high up the pitch plus centre backs getting up and down the pitch joining in the attack and doubling up with the full backs. We play(ed) with a far greater intensity than competitors in the first part of the season that simply wasn’t sustainable over the course of the season using the same small group of players, quite a fair few of the key ones being over 30 also.
 
Duffy’s a great little player, my first name on the team sheet when he’s fit, but the fact that we managed to play beautiful free flowing football against Brentford and Cardiff and create a shed load of chances sort of
Keen Blade said:
Can't he see that we have to have a creative player on the pitch ?
Can't he see that without Duffy , we perform at half our normal level ?
So why didn't Duffy start ?
In fact , why didn't Sharp start and get replaced later when he tires , a formula that worked so well in the first half of the season ?
If you don't think that Chris is losing the plot , even just a little bit , ask yourself why signed Ricky Holmes.
And why he doesn't play him - the nearest thing to Duffy that we've got , albeit some way behind Duff.
Why don't the media ask him these obvious questions.

Questioning Chris will be seen as heresy on here , but at the risk of opprobrium , I've got to wonder about some of his decisions.
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Duffy’s a great little player, my first name on the team sheet when he’s fit, but the fact that we managed to play beautiful free-flowing football against Brentford and Cardiff and also create a shed load of chances sort of negates your point doesn’t it?
 
The title of my OP was fuelled by too much disappointment.
It should have said '''Does Chris have a blind spot?"
My simple view is that Lundstram & Evans shouldn't really play together.
There should be a Duffy or a Holmes in the team.
With neither , we have no one to pull the strings or carry the ball and run at defenders - which limits our ability to open up teams using some guile or some pace.
 
Is it just me but would anyone else like to have seen brooks and Duffy play just off/either side of sharp with a 2 man centre midfield 3-4-2-1 ??
 



I say, rather than blame the owners for not spending millions, rather than blame Wilder and Knill (who saved us from mid table obscurity in league 1) why don’t we just enjoy the ride.

Two years ago we had Adkins and looked fucking shite, now we still have a shot at playoffs for the premier league with games to go. Wow...great times.

Why is everyone so desperate for the premier league anyway, doesn’t exactly look like a barrel of laughs does it. Let’s see if we get better he’s year and enjoy ourselves again!
 
We knew they'd be an overreaction to losing yesterday from some. I do get it, it shows passion and how much people care, so I won't criticise those that are critical. However over the whole season we know that we're just not quite good enough for that top 6, although at our best we are comfortably. Sadly when we're slightly off our game we end up with games like yesterday and even when we've played really well we've often drew or lost because we aren't clinical enough.

This summer we'll be in a great position to add two or three quality players and we'll be even better. We could seriously push for automatic promotion next season if we get our recruitment right - which Wilder has every window. Those that say the last window hasn't improved us need to be patient Coutts didn't turn into the best ball playing midfielder when he joined. Leon took half a season to be one of the best target men outside the top flight. Evans and Leonard will be crucial next season. Lundstram gets better all the time - I think he could prove to be the best signing Wilder's made this season.

Holmes could well prove to be quality next season but Brooks and Duffy are ahead of him for now, although I do agree that Holmes could have been used more.
 
"It's the hope that kills you" (me).......
I'm calming down now.
No offence intended , as Booker4 has realized.
 
cooperblade said:
I thought Duffy tired towards the end. He'd never have lasted the game if he'd started.
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Duffs. has started 26 games this season and been substituted in 20 of them. Love him to bits, but it's obvious he's not a 90 minuiter (?).
Rodders said:
It’s all relative. Of course they’re not tired compared to you or I but to their competitors they are - makes a difference when playing that final ball in the box or sticking with your man in the 91st minute
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derekacorah said:
Why are they less fit than their competitors? We have a couple of players who can’t last 90 mins and are invariably replaced after 70 mins each game, the rest are fit enough. Wilder made a big thing about fit we were at the start of the season so I don’t think tiredness is an excuse.
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Fitness is relative. We're up against athletes who - in a lot of cases - have played recently in the PL. Think the Hull semi-final - effort/graft/pashun will take you only so far. Also, most of our squad have spent their careers in the lower levels and are at - or over - 30 years old. 'The body is willing...' and all that.

I don't think it's that we're tired after a long hard season - there's always a few days to recover between matches. It's more like a boxing match where we throw everything at it in the early rounds hoping for a knock out. When we haven't got into a winning position, we've blown ourselves out for the later rounds.
 
grafikhaus said:
Duffs. has started 26 games this season and been substituted in 20 of them. Love him to bits, but it's obvious he's not a 90 minuiter (?).



Fitness is relative. We're up against athletes who - in a lot of cases - have played recently in the PL. Think the Hull semi-final - effort/graft/pashun will take you only so far. Also, most of our squad have spent their careers in the lower levels and are at - or over - 30 years old. 'The body is willing...' and all that.

I don't think it's that we're tired after a long hard season - there's always a few days to recover between matches. It's more like a boxing match where we throw everything at it in the early rounds hoping for a knock out. When we haven't got into a winning position, we've blown ourselves out for the later rounds.
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Some good points but although Duffy might not be a 90 minute player I’d still get him tied down to a contract for the next 2 or 3 years, if we haven’t already. The bloke is a magician and is worth having on the bench to unlock teams as he gets older, as it stands he should start every game if fit.

He won’t lose that guile or speed of thought, he’s the sort of player who doesn’t rely on pace, he mainly lets the ball do the work and it’s fantastic to watch 3 defenders getting in a pickle trying to take the ball of him.

He’s got plenty of years left at the championship level at a minimum because he’s simply too good to drop down a division or two and I can’t believe Birmingham or Burton let him go for the peanuts they did, he’s worth a relative small fortune regardless of his age.
 
wizadry said:
He’s got plenty of years left at the championship level at a minimum because he’s simply too good to drop down a division or two and I can’t believe Birmingham or Burton let him go for the peanuts they did, he’s worth a relative small fortune regardless of his age.
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It often depends who the manager is. Under Adkins, most would have been happy to see Coutts leave.
 
wizadry said:
Some good points but although Duffy might not be a 90 minute player I’d still get him tied down to a contract for the next 2 or 3 years, if we haven’t already. The bloke is a magician and is worth having on the bench to unlock teams as he gets older, as it stands he should start every game if fit.

He won’t lose that guile or speed of thought, he’s the sort of player who doesn’t rely on pace, he mainly lets the ball do the work and it’s fantastic to watch 3 defenders getting in a pickle trying to take the ball of him.

He’s got plenty of years left at the championship level at a minimum because he’s simply too good to drop down a division or two and I can’t believe Birmingham or Burton let him go for the peanuts they did, he’s worth a relative small fortune regardless of his age.
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He's contracted for next two years,good deal for a player of his age.
 
Liaminho9 said:
Similar to how Chelsea set up with Hazard and Willian supporting Morata?
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I think with Leonard, lundstram, fleck, Evans & coutts (when fit ) we have enough quality for the 2 central and Holmes + one other for duffy /Brooks cover we just need to sort out the strikers, Billy I would keep but the rest of our front line don't have much of a future with us and I do thank them for their services up to now though, I get the feeling CW will be ruthless in the summer with a keeper and strikers top of the list
 
Aston max said:
I think with Leonard, lundstram, fleck, Evans & coutts (when fit ) we have enough quality for the 2 central and Holmes + one other for duffy /Brooks cover we just need to sort out the strikers, Billy I would keep but the rest of our front line don't have much of a future with us and I do thank them for their services up to now though, I get the feeling CW will be ruthless in the summer with a keeper and strikers top of the list
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So the striker at the number two position in the top scorers list (Leon) doesn't have a future with us?
 
Grappler said:
So the striker at the number two position in the top scorers list (Leon) doesn't have a future with us?
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I don't think he does mate he is to inconsistent for the level we are at now, and I am not saying he hasn't done a cracking job for us he has ,and I for one have loved watching him put a shift in for us and scoring goals but would I have him next season I don't think I would but that's CW,s decision not mine but we are all allowed a opinion ;)
 
originaltrueblade said:
And back the best manager we have had in many a year
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Maidenhead said:
How long before some start to question that assertion?

"He can only do it in the lower leagues"

"He's not up to Championship standard"

"Lacks experience at this level"

etc etc
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Pinchy said:
Not long. The first salvo will be ‘tactically naive’ quickly followed by ‘lost the dressing room’

It’s the football fans’ way...
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Keen Blade said:
Can't he see that we have to have a creative player on the pitch ?
Can't he see that without Duffy , we perform at half our normal level ?
So why didn't Duffy start ?
In fact , why didn't Sharp start and get replaced later when he tires , a formula that worked so well in the first half of the season ?
If you don't think that Chris is losing the plot , even just a little bit , ask yourself why signed Ricky Holmes.
And why he doesn't play him - the nearest thing to Duffy that we've got , albeit some way behind Duff.
Why don't the media ask him these obvious questions.

Questioning Chris will be seen as heresy on here , but at the risk of opprobrium , I've got to wonder about some of his decisions.
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It's started, didn't take long did it Pinchy
 
derekacorah said:
I don't agree with the "tired" comments. These are professional athletes with good diets and conditioning coaches. They have all pretty much had a rest at one time or another. If we played 3 or 4 games in a week then I'd agree about the tiredness, as we stand they should be fine.
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The fixture list with international breaks produces gluts of matches.
Feb 5 games in 17 days March 4 games in 11 days Dec 4 games in 9 days Sept 6 games in 21 days.
To me with our style of full-on football, it is blindly obvious the players are at times knackered..,.
 



Aston max said:
I don't think he does mate he is to inconsistent for the level we are at now, and I am not saying he hasn't done a cracking job for us he has ,and I for one have loved watching him put a shift in for us and scoring goals but would I have him next season I don't think I would but that's CW,s decision not mine but we are all allowed a opinion ;)
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Absolutely agree that we are all allowed an opinion, but unless we sign someone outstanding, I will stick with Clarkey (for now)
 
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