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to the question: What is the job title of those people who shove people round hospitals on wheelchairs.

Joking apart, who do we think should play up front?

Porter said he was raring to go after his return from loan. Should we give him another chance?
 

He'll score goals if we create him chances... but you know how many chances we create.

His other use is donkey work for others, but you know how effective our other strikers are at the moment.
 
If they play Murphy alongside him it might work. Porter seems to play better when he plays with someone smart enough to play as a pair. Miller had his better run when playing alongside Porter. He also holds the ball up in forward positions better than most (in our team).
 
I've been joking for a while that Porter will score the goal that secures promotion.

But seriously, Joe Ironside holds the ball up better than Porter and although not quick himself, he is lightning compared with Porter. He is also much trickier than Porter. He might not get his head to the ball as often as Porter but Porter creates very little once he does get his head on the ball.

The problem is Joe has yet to score a first team goal, hence his hesitation after a great run on Saturday. He then recovered and set up Forte for what we may look back on as the miss of the season.

I would honestly play Ironside, I think he's a better player and will create more for others. I also think if he does nick a goal it will inspire him further.

I've seen him quite a bit of him in the U21s and at that level he never has a bad game. Would love it if he makes that step up when we desperately need it.
 
the answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.

what was the question again?

oh porter. well id rather play him up front than in goal.
i agree he may be ok with murphs. with kitson itd be hopeless i reckon.
 
If they play Murphy alongside him it might work. Porter seems to play better when he plays with someone smart enough to play as a pair. Miller had his better run when playing alongside Porter. He also holds the ball up in forward positions better than most (in our team).

Porter and Murphy played together for Motherwell so they could potentially be a ready-made partnership.
McFadzean and Forte out wide. Give Kitson and Robson a rest and use them from the bench If necessary.
It's got to be worth trying something different, at least for the Crawley game.
Perhaps best to leave things as they are for the Walsall match, given our away form.
It's becoming clear that we need to use different players home and away which will also keep them fresh.
 
Porter and Murphy played together for Motherwell so they could potentially be a ready-made partnership.
McFadzean and Forte out wide. Give Kitson and Robson a rest and use them from the bench If necessary.
It's got to be worth trying something different, at least for the Crawley game.
Perhaps best to leave things as they are for the Walsall match, given our away form.
It's becoming clear that we need to use different players home and away which will also keep them fresh.

Hadn't realised they played for the same Motherwell team. I've just checked and Murphy scored twice when Porter was there. Once in the league when Porter also scored, and once in the cup when Porter was red carded after 45 mins. Not sure how much Murphy would have been played up front at that stage of his career - looks like it was mostly Porter and John Sutton up front.

Assuming Westlake starts on Saturday it's pretty important Flynn is the player in front of him. I'd have McFadzean on the other wing and Forte on the bench to bring on to add pace.
 
to the question: What is the job title of those people who shove people round hospitals on wheelchairs.

Joking apart, who do we think should play up front?

Porter said he was raring to go after his return from loan. Should we give him another chance?

He can't be any worse than what Kitson's done in recent weeks. Unlike the ginger one Porter will stay up top for the full game, not drop into midfield, left back, centre back, etc. Pair him with any of the quicker strikers and he'll do all right.

I'd probably go with Robson in the hole just behind Forte up top, or maybe Ironside.
 
it seems most of us want to see mcfadzean and flynn on the wings. especially next home game. surely we have to try something different at home. robson behind murphy or kitson just might work, sounds negative but it wont be if it means we create more chances. or robson instead of doyle. i couldnt play forte up front on his own. or ironside.

i really think we should get cressers back. hes probably our most likely to score player to throw on as a late sub. hes never gonna start but in a frantic final 10 minutes needing a goal, if it falls to him in the box id back him to finish it ahead of anybody else weve got after murphy and kitson. not that thats saying much.
 
He might be the answer but with who? No point playing him with kitson and forte cant shoot. If we play him with murphy we have zero wing pace. Im starting to think we are doomed. This seasons blow has been the loss of miller.
 
I'm with those who would rather see Ironside given a run. Play him with Forte/Murphy and lets see what happens but agree we should play Flynn if Westlake is chosen.

Kitson isn't going to make all the remaining games for 90mins and dependant on the extent of his hamstring, he might be playing even less. Giving Ironside a try now with games to go isnt saying you must score and win us the league, rather go and give it your best and try and be the guy who wins us the league. Stick him in for his first start in a couple of weeks time when everyone is injured and we have drawn 4 and he either sinks or swims with the pressure.
 

He'll score goals if we create him chances... but you know how many chances we create.

His other use is donkey work for others, but you know how effective our other strikers are at the moment.

I don't think he actually needs that many chances, but he does need better service than we have got to offer.

Porter seems to only be effective with a player like Miller - pacey, agile. So would he work with Forte. Doubtful.

If we rely on Porter to finish the job like we did when we lost Ched and then Hoskins last year, we're pretty much going to have to give it up.

He's not an impact player and certainly not a finisher. Is he the answer? No, because he is the target man and the target man needs someone playing off him
 
He also holds the ball up in forward positions better than most (in our team).
I guess you've never seen him play. The ball just bounces straight of him.

You only have you look at last year PO semis and final too see how ineffective porter is. If he ends up being our main striker for the remaining games then that's our season over.
 
I guess you've never seen him play. The ball just bounces straight of him.

You only have you look at last year PO semis and final too see how ineffective porter is. If he ends up being our main striker for the remaining games then that's our season over.

Apart from the fact he won the ball in midfield leading up to his winning goal against Stevenage. Dropped for the final but came on and scored a pressure penalty :)
 
Is Porter the answer?
Only if the question is What player should be doing the same job as his surname rather than being a footballer?

He will of course score the Play off winner for us tho.....
 
i can see this season ending the same way as so many others with porter and forte being upfront. kitsons gone off the boil before his injury, blackman and miller were our best strikers, defeat in the playoffs here we come. i really hope the team proves me wrong.
 
Apart from the fact he won the ball in midfield leading up to his winning goal against Stevenage. Dropped for the final but came on and scored a pressure penalty :)

If we are going by facts then 6 goals in 48 games tells you need to know in why porter should not play. Also, had you watch the games, you would we would of scored more goals and even win the PO final had we played / bought someone who could hold the ball up.
 
If we are going by facts then 6 goals in 48 games tells you need to know

By that stat he would [almost] be our top scorer in the team given the absentees we now have. Other than that you have both CB with 5 - and two of Maguire's 5 were in one game at County where it didn't really matter
 
By that stat he would [almost] be our top scorer in the team given the absentees we now have. Other than that you have both CB with 5 - and two of Maguire's 5 were in one game at County where it didn't really matter

6 goals in 2 years . Prolific goalscorer.

But seriously, we shouldn't be relying on a player who has only scored 16 goals in 4 years (since 2009) and can't hold a ball up to save his life.
 
6 goals in 2 years . Prolific goalscorer.
But seriously, we shouldn't be relying on a player who has only scored 16 goals in 4 years (since 2009) and can't hold a ball up to save his life.


Don't disagree mpj - i was merely pointing out that he is the most prolific striker we have at our disposal :eek: - if Kitson has, indeed, done a Hammy - Mind you I have read elsewhere that he has scored 10 in 38 starts for us. It was James Shield so you can take it with whatever table condiment you wish







We're doomed, I tell you. All doomed!



Live action preview from tomorrow's game at the Bescot

:tumbleweed: Porter watches as the ball sails past him after it is launched up from the back following 26 sideways passes between the Blades defenders (not including Westlake - who was by passed by Collins, Maguire and Higgy).
In case you are wondering, that's Forte by the side of him - looking sharp with his arms aloft calling for the ball. The astute amongst you will note that the pass was intended for Forte - using him as the target man but it was too high for him to reach. Porter couldn't react in time as the ball canons off his shin and goes out for a throw to Walsall.









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goals in years doesnt tell the story , Paul gascoigne didnt score for 2 years , but scored 30 at rangers

but in Porters case , he scored a lot for Swindon , as they played around him
same as Torres , was the total focus of play at liverpool scores oodles , becomes a squad member at chelsea = less prolific
 
If Kitson is not fit then Porter is the obvious replacement. He was easily our best player against Stevenage in the play off semi last year and taking into account our lack of striking options for the final I could not believe he was dropped for a half fit Cresswell. That said he does tend to have one good game when recalled to the side followed by several poor ones and hence is dropped again. I would start him alongside Murphy and replace him with Ironside if we don't look like scoring after about 60mins.
 
If Porter is the answer then I have to ponder, what if the Hokey Cokey IS what its all about!
 

well , you first of all put your left leg in , then retract it momentarily , then offer it in another forward motion before again re instating it in its original position
 

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