Is our transfer inactivity beginning to worry anyone?

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DMA1987 said:
The problem is if we cant close on our preferred targets. Especially with the competition around (losing out to clubs in and around us).

We only have paper talk ( bullshit) at the minute though, so im happy to let it all play out. But the paper talk has me slightly worried yeah.
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We're not losing to clubs in and around us financially though are we, we're losing out to clubs with far superior spending power.
We had the lowest wage bill last season and will probably have the same this season. Until we grow our revenues which will take another season or so, then that's the position we're going to be in as we don't have a wealthy owner picking up the tab as part of a vanity project.

From an improvement point of view, I think we'd beat Burnley to any signing this season which is one more club than last season.
 

I'm worried too about our transfer dealings, I mean we've a problem with the keeper situation cause hendo isn't gonna be cheap for another loan, and I can't see us spending 18 million on Ramsdale...

Sorry for the irony, but we've already spent fucking silly money.. So no I'm not worried, there's more to come.. We don't wanna go down, that's from the top of the boardroom to the tea ladies..

Kevin mcabe has left the building..

Ps, bump this in 5 years time it it goes tits up, I'd rather do a Portsmouth and win something, I'm not getting no fucking younger.. ;)
 
I was reading some speculation about Leeds and their business thus far. In short it went along the lines of saying that going in so much for Ben White early doors (when there was never much likelihood of it coming off anyway) has potentially screwed them over. Apart from resulting in a lot of their fans doing some proper funny flounces, it's meant they've shown their hand far too soon so now anyone they approach is going to ask for silly money.

Case in point this Rodrigo. Obviously he might turn out to bang them in for them and be worth it but on the face of it, it's a bit of an odd deal. 27 million plus add ons for a 29 year old and on top of that, a 4 year contract at 100k a week. They'd better hope he does well cos they'll not shift him at that price.

Further speculation (and wishful thinking probably) was saying this crazy deal was down to Biesla not signing yet and suggesting he'd handed the owners demands for players before he put pen to paper, hence the desperate attempts to get Ben White and a deal for Rodrigo which goes against the shrewd business moves their owner was going on about after they got promotion.
 
mcbladeface said:
I was reading some speculation about Leeds and their business thus far. In short it went along the lines of saying that going in so much for Ben White early doors (when there was never much likelihood of it coming off anyway) has potentially screwed them over. Apart from resulting in a lot of their fans doing some proper funny flounces, it's meant they've shown their hand far too soon so now anyone they approach is going to ask for silly money.

Case in point this Rodrigo. Obviously he might turn out to bang them in for them and be worth it but on the face of it, it's a bit of an odd deal. 27 million plus add ons for a 29 year old and on top of that, a 4 year contract at 100k a week. They'd better hope he does well cos they'll not shift him at that price.

Further speculation (and wishful thinking probably) was saying this crazy deal was down to Biesla not signing yet and suggesting he'd handed the owners demands for players before he put pen to paper, hence the desperate attempts to get Ben White and a deal for Rodrigo which goes against the shrewd business moves their owner was going on about after they got promotion.
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exactly this. Unless you’re established top 4/6 you keep your cards to your chest. Especially in this climate. No team ever mentions budgets. Clubs will be desperate for money as well lower down or if they’re wanting to make a signing, when it gets to desperate measures you might see some chairman’s inner McCabe come out. You can also get players for less than originally touted as that desperation becomes more clear.
 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
It is me, a little. Not that the club are at fault, in anyway.

We seemingly set our stall out fairly early doors: Swift, Robinson, Cash - promising youngsters who can grow with us, grow in value and eventually become staples of our side. The right price, sizeable investment for our club, but still manageable financially.

Now, Robinson has gone elsewhere and Cash and Swift seem to have stalled. What worries me most is that we have never been a more enticing proposition to new players than we are now. Strong squad, media darlings, finished 9th, attractive football.

Sign these players now, and we continue to press on and improve. Fail to do so, or to sign improvements and we risk standing still or faltering. Any momentum last season bought us in the transfer market will be lost and we'll be at risk of being just as exciting an option for future signings as Burnley are...
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Nah then Kozzy, it'll be reyt mate, I'm sure of that. Might be slow but no points for signing players at this stage of the season over coming in just before, although we'd all love them in early. If we get Rhian Brewster then I think we can be well pleased. I really think he's the real deal and a big upgrade on Mousset who is the most similar, and I still think Mousset could be good for us - so much potential. Brewster may be younger and more inexperienced, but he's some player, it seems that's likely and I think we'll be a much stronger threat with him alongside McBurnie. Throw a couple more in there over the next week and we'll be fine and I actually think we'll do even better than the 9th from last season.
 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
Well, this started well 😂

Perhaps a better question should be something along the lines of 'are you concerned or more the point frustrated with our initial transfer activity?"

I know I am, Cash, Robinson and Swift are perfect for what we're trying to build here, so to have those deals stall (or to see Fulham being financially OTT again) is frustrating. At a time when our standing and clout is at an all time high, to try and get these over the line. Again, no fault on the club's part.
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Wilder has always done his signings late on in the transfer windows while he has been here.The summer window always seem slower with players on holidays and this year with the short break between seasons will be even slower.He seems to allow these rumours to surface and ends up signing other players that other clubs never look at.He is a master at surprise signings and usually found to be right.So let him get on with it,The new players will arrive like buses ,waiting ages then two or three will come along within a day or two.
 
You would think clubs would learn lessons from what has gone on before Here we have a club who just a year or so ago spent like money was going out of fashion because they had reached the Prem to crash in spectacular fashion back to the Championship .Now they are doing the exact same thing as before,spending stupid money on transfers and paying the players suicidal wages.Do they never learn?I mean Fulham of course and Leeds seem to be doing the same.Paying 26 mill for a 29 year old player and giving him 100.000 grand a week for four years ,has the world gone mad?Did they not notice what happened to the big spenders last year Aston Villa?If it was not for a tech hitch they to would be back in the Championship to. Now Compare with the Wilder way ,which one would you say got it right?
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
We're not losing to clubs in and around us financially though are we, we're losing out to clubs with far superior spending power.
We had the lowest wage bill last season and will probably have the same this season. Until we grow our revenues which will take another season or so, then that's the position we're going to be in as we don't have a wealthy owner picking up the tab as part of a vanity project.

From an improvement point of view, I think we'd beat Burnley to any signing this season which is one more club than last season.
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Positionally. Which worries me more than financially - as it should i think. But like i said, much of it is paper talk.

Im sure wilder would day the same tbh. He sounded frustrated in his interview the other day.
 
Anyone else think McCabe is getting back at us by leaking our targets to Fulham and Villa
 
DMA1987 said:
Positionally. Which worries me more than financially - as it should i think. But like i said, much of it is paper talk.

Im sure wilder would day the same tbh. He sounded frustrated in his interview the other day.
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Sorry I’ve missed your point? Wilder cares what the papers think of us?
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Sorry I’ve missed your point? Wilder cares what the papers think of us?
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No bud, he sounded a touch frustrated teams were jumping in as soon as we were in for somebody. Which could suggest the paper talk has some substance
 

DMA1987 said:
Agents doing their job, unfortunately.
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For sure. No less worrying though right.

We have the right model im sure, but newly promoted teams getting our targets isnt something which I enjoy.

Edit - according to speculation
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Agents doing their job, unfortunately.
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It'll be down to personal terms, every time. Chris will have done a brilliant job in selling the club, at the end of the day, agents just go for a bigger pay packet for their client (cos they're on %) and Wilder's work goes down the pan.
 
1066blade said:
It'll be down to personal terms, every time. Chris will have done a brilliant job in selling the club, at the end of the day, agents just get a bigger pay packet and Wilder's work goes down the pan.
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I was meaning making sure their players who are available are known to everyone by ensuring deals aren’t done quickly and quietly. I don’t buy that most agents would move their players around simply for their own gain or that they push the always towards the money.
Robinson for example will have favoured the Fulham move over us. We can’t put that on the agent when all he did is secure what his player wanted.
 
This is clearly a tough window to operate in with the financial climate.

Sadly we Look like missing out on a couple of our first choice targets that would have improved the squad in Cash and Robinson. Noises that we will miss out on Swift also - so it’s feeling like we need to pick up players no one else on the division is bothered about. I feel like it’s going to be tough to find improvements on last years starting 11 operating that way - hopefully we utilise the loan market for a couple of Hendo type sigings

So pleased we got Berge over the line in January as we’d not be able to pull that one off now.
 
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We will get some in, just clearly not our first choice targets. Robinson, Cash and Swift seemingly gone elsewhere means we need to look at alternatives.
 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
It is me, a little. Not that the club are at fault, in anyway.

We seemingly set our stall out fairly early doors: Swift, Robinson, Cash - promising youngsters who can grow with us, grow in value and eventually become staples of our side. The right price, sizeable investment for our club, but still manageable financially.

Now, Robinson has gone elsewhere and Cash and Swift seem to have stalled. What worries me most is that we have never been a more enticing proposition to new players than we are now. Strong squad, media darlings, finished 9th, attractive football.

Sign these players now, and we continue to press on and improve. Fail to do so, or to sign improvements and we risk standing still or faltering. Any momentum last season bought us in the transfer market will be lost and we'll be at risk of being just as exciting an option for future signings as Burnley are...
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JR98 said:
We will get some in, just clearly not our first choice targets. Robinson, Cash and Swift seemingly gone elsewhere means we need to look at alternatives.
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Cash and Swift have not gone anywhere
 
No matter how potentially well or underwhelming this window maybe one thing is for sure. Wilder deserves more financial clout to attract his main targets. Whether these players we are seeming to lose out on are smokescreens is to be seen. But the longer we have to expect Wilder to make miracles with relative shoestrings the harder it will be to keep him. Lets hope tufty gets even more support following the big signing of Rammers.
 

Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
It is me, a little. Not that the club are at fault, in anyway.

We seemingly set our stall out fairly early doors: Swift, Robinson, Cash - promising youngsters who can grow with us, grow in value and eventually become staples of our side. The right price, sizeable investment for our club, but still manageable financially.

Now, Robinson has gone elsewhere and Cash and Swift seem to have stalled. What worries me most is that we have never been a more enticing proposition to new players than we are now. Strong squad, media darlings, finished 9th, attractive football.

Sign these players now, and we continue to press on and improve. Fail to do so, or to sign improvements and we risk standing still or faltering. Any momentum last season bought us in the transfer market will be lost and we'll be at risk of being just as exciting an option for future signings as Burnley are...
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Swift, Robbinson and cash would all be back up players imo.... Not bothered if we miss out on all 3... A striker is an essential singing tho
 
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