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Baldock reckoned he might be okay for Wednesday, in his post-match interview.
 

As long as Bash isn't out long term I can cope with it all. I don't want to see any Utd player out injured but the thought of Bash being out for a while, made me feel sick as a parrot (who has had a particularly heavy previous night on the rum chasers). Hope he's alright (as I do all our players).
 
Makes me a bit of a Mardy bum thinking more about this.

I posted thoughts earlier on this thread. The only difference is now we have even more injuries.

Just grates on your gears that the covid cowards got to postpone matches because playing the kids would have been unfair.

Poor old QPR:

“We had four people come down positive with Covid, and we’ve had two more overnight displaying symptoms.

“We have some unvaccinated players who’ve come into close contact as well.

I've got 10 isolating."

So he only had 4 positive cases. He did his best to stretch it to a more plausible sounding ten, but absolutely could not put a team out.

So what about us?

Long term (4) - O'Connell, Brewster, Bogle, McGoldrick.

Medium term (2) - Stevens, Osborn

Short term (we hope, 3) - Baldock, Norrington-Davies, Basham.

Making their way back to fitness (4) - Fleck, Berge, Davies, Gibbs-White

Elsewhere (9) - Mousset, Lowe, Freeman, Burke, Verrips, Brunt, Lopata, Broadbent, Coulibaly

So we could be as many as 9 down, with 4 not able to play a run of games without rest and a further 9 unavailable because we allowed them to go elsewhere.

A good 15-18 of our original squad not available for selection then depending on the doubtful 3.

Yet Chris, with his 19 was it? But 10 of those were staff, gets the world's smallest violin to play. I think Preston had about 7 injured yet managed to play us when they had players back and got a point they wouldn't have got a month earlier. Likewise Hull rode their luck but would have faced us with no manager due to covid, something which incidentally was the contributor to Hecky's only defeat thus far. And it makes QPR's 4 going on 8 basically because symptoms could be common cold, pale into insignificance.

Just makes a joke of the integrity nonsense. Not a word on our injuries yet we will have far more contracted players unavailable than any of those twats.
 
On the subject of postponing fixtures I see Forest weren’t happy with injury hit Bournemouth at the weekend. SAG wanted the game called off BEFORE any so called damage occurred. EFL refused so they amazingly had damage after that. What a coincidence.
 
Stu_Blade said:
We have 15 regular games to go there will probably only be 1 contender to play all minutes of the 15 in Wes however we have enough players for squad rotation and a system that the U23s can easily slot in as like for like players if needed. For us the pressure is off unless you have hope, as in October it was League 1 here we come or 14th would be a good finish. If we get chance to introduce some of the young kids if the play offs are out of reach in the last few games then so be it however for now let's keep the positivity up and see where it takes us.
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Pressure definitely on for me. At the start of the season the aim was promotion, and that's still the aim. Doesn't matter if we had a shit start, we are now in the play off places and if we win tonight we will be 4 points off the autos (having played 2 games more). It isn't a free hit because of our early season form. It's a full on battle for promotion and we're in the thick of it.
 
A suspicious amount of our injuries are non-contact which might be coincidence but would suggest there's something awry
 
Bladesman said:
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It makes me wonder how such important issues like heavy training pitches were not resolved during 2 years of PL money?
Training needs to be at the required level, but heavy winter pitches obviously don’t help with a busy match programme and soft tissue injuries too. It’s hard on old (Didsey) and young (Brewster) alike so we have to hope money can be found to solve this long term problem this summer.
 
Charlieblade said:
It makes me wonder how such important issues like heavy training pitches were not resolved during 2 years of PL money?
Training needs to be at the required level, but heavy winter pitches obviously don’t help with a busy match programme and soft tissue injuries too. It’s hard on old (Didsey) and young (Brewster) alike so we have to hope money can be found to solve this long term problem this summer.
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Let's not forget this only got raised as an issue AFTER Christ had spunked another 50m on transfers.

If it was so important, which didn't he just hand the no 1 jersey to Wes and spend the Ramsdale money on the training ground?
 
Champagneblade said:
Let's not forget this only got raised as an issue AFTER Christ had spunked another 50m on transfers.

If it was so important, which didn't he just hand the no 1 jersey to Wes and spend the Ramsdale money on the training ground?
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Having read what Wilder said in his parting shot ! I got the opinion he was talking about a new bigger complex,didn't really comment on boggy training pitches.
Obviously one goes with the other but no direct comment on the state of the pitches.
As has previously been commented on
Wilder spent a lot on players who were not good enough! No names mentioned.
Will be really disappointing if injuries cost us a place in the play offs.Blame game is not the important thing putting it right is.
One thing for sure if the prince rejected moves to at least improve the pitches ( at Shirecliffe ) it will be a costly mistake as every season spent in this division ( as Mccabe) found out means big losses with the overheads we have.
 

Who would have thought pitches get heavy in the winter .I'm sure the 4 g pitch and half size 4 g indoor pitch might have come in handy !
 
Champagneblade said:
Let's not forget this only got raised as an issue AFTER Christ had spunked another 50m on transfers.

If it was so important, which didn't he just hand the no 1 jersey to Wes and spend the Ramsdale money on the training ground?
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My memory of this issue is different to yours. When we were initially promoted to PL, the manager, Wilder, said that Shirecliffe needed improvements, and he (Wilder) would not put the club in financial jeopardy.
The fact remains that current training pitches are still not good enough for first team, academy and womens use.
If it was Wilder overspending (someone still has to sign off player purchases) or the money was used elsewhere, the training facilities are not good enough.
It could be that the CFO believed training was to be moved to a new site, and expenditure on current facilities would be wasted? Whatever the problem, current facilities cannot meet the demands of the club, and it’s entirely possible that an opportunity was wasted when PL income was available, but used elsewhere.
The club needs to understand this shortfall and do something about it now. Historical blame is a bit futile in my mind. It still needs fixing!
 
I'm not being funny but if the training pitches r so shit why dont we train somewhere else for the test of the season? Rent the university pitches or another place, theres only 2 months of the season left.

What's the quote....'doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome is insanity?'
 
FriethBlade said:
I'm not being funny but if the training pitches r so shit why dont we train somewhere else for the test of the season? Rent the university pitches or another place, theres only 2 months of the season left.

What's the quote....'doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome is insanity?'
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I think this is a different moan than that of Wilder.

The weather seems to have taken its toll on them. I doubt we intentionally built boggy pitches.

Let's face it the intelligent thing to do would be to have a pitch which is the exact replica as BDTBL then practicing is so much closer to game day.

But if they've taken a battering from th weather, why not just look elsewhere for 2 months as you say?
 
Champagneblade said:
I think this is a different moan than that of Wilder.

The weather seems to have taken its toll on them. I doubt we intentionally built boggy pitches.

Let's face it the intelligent thing to do would be to have a pitch which is the exact replica as BDTBL then practicing is so much closer to game day.

But if they've taken a battering from th weather, why not just look elsewhere for 2 months as you say?
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Chelsea have training pitches that are built on the same sub soil as other Premier League clubs. So when they r playing away they train on the 'same'pitch the week before.
 
FriethBlade said:
Chelsea have training pitches that are built on the same sub soil as other Premier League clubs. So when they r playing away they train on the 'same'pitch the week before.
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I agree in principle, but the kind of luxury enjoyed at CFC is about to be neutered? I have no great love for the club or it’s owner, but someone has seen sense to allow a sale without the club or the owner gaining any benefit.
 
richblade said:
Anyone got an updated injury list ? losing track here :confused:
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Currently:

George Baldock: unknown injury, unknown return
Chris Basham: knee injury, out for around a month
Jayden Bogle: knee injury, out for around 5 months
Rhian Brewster: hamstring injury, out for around 3 months
Ben Davies: calf injury, might be back for Wednesday's game but unlikely to be 100% fit
John Fleck: groin injury, might be back for Wednesday's game but unlikely to be 100% fit
Charlie Goode: cartilage injury, unknown return
Oli McBurnie: dead leg, might be back for Wednesday's game
David McGoldrick: thigh injury, out for around 3 months
Jack O'Connell: knee injury, return unknown
Ben Osborn: knock, returned recently but not 100% fit
Enda Stevens: calf injury, return unknown
 
Balham Blade said:
Currently:

George Baldock: unknown injury, unknown return
Chris Basham: knee injury, out for around a month
Jayden Bogle: knee injury, out for around 5 months
Rhian Brewster: hamstring injury, out for around 3 months
Ben Davies: calf injury, might be back for Wednesday's game but unlikely to be 100% fit
John Fleck: groin injury, might be back for Wednesday's game but unlikely to be 100% fit
Charlie Goode: cartilage injury, unknown return
Oli McBurnie: dead leg, might be back for Wednesday's game
David McGoldrick: thigh injury, out for around 3 months
Jack O'Connell: knee injury, return unknown
Ben Osborn: knock, returned recently but not 100% fit
Enda Stevens: calf injury, return unknown
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You could technically add Oli Burke & Luke Freeman to that list.
Presume they'll be getting treated back with us now too. Both out for the season.
 
I’ve heard a bit of a rumour that if we get to the play offs Brewster has a chance of making it. I can’t imagine he’ll be anywhere near prime condition though
 

As far as I am aware the injuries have happened in matches … so why is it the training pitches fault ?
 
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