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We are carrying a totally unacceptable number of injured players.
Many of our players are susceptable to constant repeat injuries.
Our injured players seem to be unavailable for long periods of time.

There are reasons for the above.
That is what the debate is about.
What are those reasons.
They have to be identified and addressed.
 

Nightsweats said:
We are carrying a totally unacceptable number of injured players.
Many of our players are susceptable to constant repeat injuries.
Our injured players seem to be unavailable for long periods of time.

There are reasons for the above.
That is what the debate is about.
What are those reasons.
They have to be identified and addressed.
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That's another concern.

Seemingly regular injuries that usually take a few weeks are taking much longer.

I've not counted the time frames but haven't Clark and Lowe just had pulled or torn hamstrings. I understand Clark did his again whilst trying to return. He's no Jamie Ward. 33 with no continuous issues in this regard from what I can see.

Lowe must be touching 6 weeks out at a guess so hopefully he's not far away as I think 8 weeks is usually the upper rehab for standard grade 2 tears.
 
Davalon said:
That's another concern.

Seemingly regular injuries that usually take a few weeks are taking much longer.

I've not counted the time frames but haven't Clark and Lowe just had pulled or torn hamstrings. I understand Clark did his again whilst trying to return. He's no Jamie Ward. 33 with no continuous issues in this regard from what I can see.

Lowe must be touching 6 weeks out at a guess so hopefully he's not far away as I think 8 weeks is usually the upper rehab for standard grade 2 tears.
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Clark was only meant to be out for a week or so. 😄
 
Anyone care to estimate how much we've paid in wages over the last couple of years to players who haven't been available.... not even including JOC

For this reason alone surely the club are investigating thoroughly
 
Servigliano said:
It would be interesting to know the comparative fitness levels of vaxxed v. unvaxxed pro footballers. The clubs will have the metrics of, for example, the Vox efficiency of their multi million pound assets. Liverpool anyone? ( I know they won yesterday)- Just look at Klopp's views on the unvaxxed...
I believe about 40% of EFL players have resisted the jab. It would be interesting to see where we stand on that one.

Collapsing whilst engaged in strenuous activity may attract headlines but the more common problem is one of micro clots which have an adverse effect on fitness/recovery. It is a well known fact that mRNA jabs can induce blood clots.
Oh, and before I get trashed, - yes, I have had a career dependant upon my knowledge of immunology and vaccinology.
And please don't say it's due to covid as opposed to the vax. Not many athletes collapsed prior to the jabs, but if you're still tempted to say so just do some research on nucleocapsids.
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Absolutely mate
 
Another by product of all the injuries we’ve had over the past months is that we can hardly ever put the same starting 11 out on a regular basis. Makes it very difficult to get a settled side.
 
Rufus Smalls said:
Another by product of all the injuries we’ve had over the past months is that we can hardly ever put the same starting 11 out on a regular basis. Makes it very difficult to get a settled side.
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Not only can we not put out anything approaching a settled side we can't now put one out to give Stoke City a game.
I'll be watching tomorrow fully expecting Baldock and Anel if deemed ok to play to aggravate something and be out for months.
 
Nightsweats said:
Not only can we not put out anything approaching a settled side we can't now put one out to give Stoke City a game.
I'll be watching tomorrow fully expecting Baldock and Anel if deemed ok to play to aggravate something and be out for months.
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You could watch tommorow and see if we score more goals than the other team.
Its more fun that way
 
Nightsweats said:
Not only can we not put out anything approaching a settled side we can't now put one out to give Stoke City a game.
I'll be watching tomorrow fully expecting Baldock and Anel if deemed ok to play to aggravate something and be out for months.
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How long would you give them til they should come back ?
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
How long would you give them til they should come back ?
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I'm not going there with you again. It's pointless. I've already said I have no idea what the root cause/causes of our injury crisis is. Neither do you. I do however think it isn't beyond the bounds of possibility that as a consequence of it players may be brought back sooner/played more minutes than they should. It isn't unreasonable to speculate if we only had 2 or 3 first teamers out injured the pressure to field them sooner than is good for them wouldn't be there.
 
Nightsweats said:
I'm not going there with you again. It's pointless. I've already said I have no idea what the root cause/causes of our injury crisis is. Neither do you. I do however think it isn't beyond the bounds of possibility that as a consequence of it players may be brought back sooner/played more minutes than they should. It isn't unreasonable to speculate if we only had 2 or 3 first teamers out injured the pressure to field them sooner than is good for them wouldn't be there.
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'you have no idea' , but you're here all the time speculating it's crap this or that.
Here you've made a very specific post about Anel and baldock, and have a very easy way to answer what you think should be done. But you won't.
Maybe just complaining and looking for somebody to blame is easier?
 
Also, whatever the fuck happened to Charlie Goode?
 

Freddie said:
It’s quite a funny story.
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Goode was sent off for the first time in his professional career for a two-footed challenge on Reda Khadra on 23 February 2022.[33][37] While training during the suspension, he suffered from a knee cartilage problem,[38] which led to his return to Brentford for treatment in April.[39] Goode did not return to fitness before the end of the season and was not involved in the Blades' unsuccessful playoff campaign.[35] He made just two appearances in mid-February 2022.[33]

The knee cartilage problem saw Goode miss Brentford's entire 2022–23 pre-season and the beginning of the regular season.
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He is still fucking injured!
 
Bladesman said:
He is still fucking injured!
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I’m not one to wish ill on anyone but his brutal assault on Khadra was as bad as anything I’ve seen by anyone wearing a Blades shirt .

As such , I find it hard to have any sympathy for someone who appears to have put his career in jeopardy by virtue of having tried to do the same to a fellow professional .
 
People will always speculate over such a problem. That seems to be inevitable.

Is there any truth in the rumour that the modern game encourages some coaches to employ high intensity training, in order to support a faster, high pressing game?

Evidence to support this is partly anecdotal, from the number of coaches/clubs employing this strategy. We are not the only club with a full treatment room. Does it also apply to the PL clubs who train at high intensity to support similar strategies? Has the trend filtered down to lower league teams?

Do all clubs now record players mileage and other metrics? If so could this be used to check if any correlation exists between high mileage players and those prone to injury.

It’s worth remembering that individual players have different levels of natural athleticism!

My post only considers using existing metrics to find a possible contributory cause. Other options might be available.
 
Isaw Joeshaw said:
I’m not one to wish ill on anyone but his brutal assault on Khadra was as bad as anything I’ve seen by anyone wearing a Blades shirt .

As such , I find it hard to have any sympathy for someone who appears to have put his career in jeopardy by virtue of having tried to do the same to a fellow professional .
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Had a good view of it from my seat and it's thankful Khadra didn't have his foot planted.

Properly cowardly leg breaker.
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
'you have no idea' , but you're here all the time speculating it's crap this or that.
Here you've made a very specific post about Anel and baldock, and have a very easy way to answer what you think should be done. But you won't.
Maybe just complaining and looking for somebody to blame is easier?
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You are aware as to why this forum exists aren't you. Your ridiculous posts suggest you don't.
It exists to enable people with an interest in SUFC to discuss, suugest, soeculate,praise,criticise any and all aspects surrounding SUFC.

Given right now by far the biggest issue is our neverending catalogue of injuries to first team players which if left unadressed and not rectified will certainly result in not getting promoted this year with the ensuing increased financial problems that will occur.

Rather than post stupid "I've posted thousands of things on here, who are you to dare have opinions and not back down" type of garbage, maybe suggest what you thing the causes could be. Only a tool would suggest bad luck.
 
Nightsweats said:
You are aware as to why this forum exists aren't you. Your ridiculous posts suggest you don't.
It exists to enable people with an interest in SUFC to discuss, suugest, soeculate,praise,criticise any and all aspects surrounding SUFC.

Given right now by far the biggest issue is our neverending catalogue of injuries to first team players which if left unadressed and not rectified will certainly result in not getting promoted this year with the ensuing increased financial problems that will occur.

Rather than post stupid "I've posted thousands of things on here, who are you to dare have opinions and not back down" type of garbage, maybe suggest what you thing the causes could be. Only a tool would suggest bad luck.
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Yes, it's a forum. You said about Baldock and Anel coming back and getting injured straight away. So I asked how long you would rest them. Not a controversial or hard question.
Not interested in trying to stop anybody posting, just want to understand your thinking.
 
Hamandcheese said:
Well, apparently we required or at least preferred any signings last January to be vaccinated, so that might give you a good indication as to the status of the majority of our players

We know McBurnie hasn't taken it..... and look at his upturn compared to the majority! Fair play to him

This is something I'd be very interested to see the data on, but will we ever? Doubtful. Especially if it reveals anything inconvenient...
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Out of interest, how do we know McBurnie hasn’t had the vaccine? The poster on here who everyone thought might be McBurnie has said otherwise. It might indicate they aren’t who everyone thinks they are.
 
LJBlade said:
Out of interest, how do we know McBurnie hasn’t had the vaccine? The poster on here who everyone thought might be McBurnie has said otherwise. It might indicate they aren’t who everyone thinks they are.
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I thought it was common knowledge and had been referred to in an interview, perhaps by PH? If that poster is McB he might have simply been lying to avoid flak on this forum...
 
Hamandcheese said:
I thought it was common knowledge and had been referred to in an interview, perhaps by PH? If that poster is McB he might have simply been lying to avoid flak on this forum...
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Why would he get flak? It didn’t come across that way anyway, seemed fairly genuine. Whether he’s had it or not certainly isn’t common knowledge. There’s also the fact that he could’ve had it after Heckingbottom talked about it.
 
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