In praise of Mccabe

[Esablade]

Was he interviewed after Clough got the boot?

I think so...?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Are you a member of his Family?

I believe you've missed his point.

Which is explained in the first sentence of the OP.

 

[pommpey]

And he didn't pocket the net £19m from West Ham, it was used to pay off bank borrowings arising from the Robson debacle.

So ... that was whose fault, then?

pommpey

 

[Grappler]

I believe Wilder has been interviewed before?
Maybe someone can verify???

Was he? I thought it was Phil Parkinson as front runner, not sure CW was interviewed, might have been mentioned?

 

[Bartyblade]

Sorry stopped reading at point 1 £90 mil in . How much have they taken out ? He's a business man , he makes money .

He makes money out of his successful companies.
Sheffield United Football Club isn't one of
them.
But we live in hope!

 

[boo radley]

I believe you've missed his point.

Which is explained in the first sentence of the OP.

No I didn't and his first sentence explains nothing of his relationship.

 

[More Bladier than thou]

Was he? I thought it was Phil Parkinson as front runner, not sure CW was interviewed, might have been mentioned?

Harry Bassett was advising Mccabe, wanted him all along,dont believe he was actually interviewed but Harry was first to tell Mccabe that he was right along and should have been the number 1 target.

 

[Sean Thornton]

No I didn't and his first sentence explains nothing of his relationship.

That probably makes sense to you.

 

[pheasant FC]

He's had a fair lump of that £90m out but has written most of the rest off. The hotel loses him money, the old Plc loses him money and the FC loses him and the Prince money as things stand.

I've still to see where anyone can actually show where he's made money from the club. Even fag packets figures in crayon.






And he didn't pocket the net £19m from West Ham, it was used to pay off bank borrowings arising from the Robson debacle.

90 mil over how many years ?
How much returned in sky revenue?
How much in player sales ?
How much in premier league status alone ?
Hammond contract details !! Clueless

The signing of CW saved our club and the K MC family

 

[Sean Thornton]

90 mil over how many years ?
How much returned in sky revenue?
How much in player sales ?
How much in premier league status alone ?
Hammond contract details !! Clueless

The signing of CW saved our club and the K MC family

So you reckon he's had the Sky money PL money and incoming transfer fees?

Really?

 

[I should coco]

So you reckon he's had the Sky money PL money and incoming transfer fees?

Yup.

If you go down to BDTBL late at night you can see him sneaking around with a stripey jersey and a mask.

I'm sure Donald Trump will shortly be tweeting some 'facts' to prove it.

 

[pheasant FC]

So you reckon he's had the Sky money PL money and incoming transfer fees?

Really?

I'm asking if you really think he's out of pocket

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm asking if you really think he's out of pocket

Yes. He is.

 

[I should coco]

I'm asking if you really think he's out of pocket

No you're probably right.

I would imagine it's dead easy to get the cash from player sales in used fivers and pay it into your offshore account. Similar with the PL parachute money. There will be no checks or audit trail, so simply telling them to make the cheque payable to 'Big Kev' should do it.

Every other lower league owner loses millions keeping their clubs afloat, but our Kev isn't even out of pocket. Why don't you ring the Star and tell them about your big 'exclusive'?

 

[Harry's Game]

The three biggest marks against him are his three catastrophic managerial decisions when we were in The Championship.

1. The appointment and squandering of the Parachute payments on Robson

2. Sacking Blackwell two games into a season when the transfer window was about closed.

3. Appointing Adams.

Those three decisions lead directly to our relegation to this league. Until we are at least back where we were when he made the first one, i.e. Regular contenders In the top half of the Championship competing for a play off spot, then he is going to be regarded as a failure.

 

[Davalon]

Was he? I thought it was Phil Parkinson as front runner, not sure CW was interviewed, might have been mentioned?

No idea if he was interviewed but a work colleague who knows Wilder well told me a few years ago he'd applied. After Wilson went I think if I remember rightly.

 

[boo radley]

Think we did this a couple p

That probably makes sense to you.

Are you his PA?

 

[Hodgesleftpeg]

Even if Chris wilder had been interviewed after Cloughs sacking and it was a choice between him and Nigel Adkins,..... honestly, at the time, how many would have gone for CW?

Not me.. I'd have said we need to get out of this league.. Adkins is the man ..back to back promotions with Southampton.. come back in a few years Chris...

I feel a right tit just reading that back!!!

 

[I should coco]

Not me.. I'd have said we need to get out of this league.. Adkins is the man ..back to back promotions with Southampton.. come back in a few years Chris...

I feel a right tit just reading that back!!!

Tit or not, at least you are honest.

IIRC about 80% wanted Adkins, 10% Warburton and 10% wanted various other tosspots.

We moan about McCabe's choices but we'd have been pretty shit at picking managers too. I remember grinning like a twat in October 2013 thinking we'd got a real long term manager in Clough.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Think we did this a couple p

Are you his PA?

Are you upset at something? Or just being a dick for the sake of it?

 

[Esablade]

And he didn't pocket the net £19m from West Ham, it was used to pay off bank borrowings arising from the Robson debacle.

Always thought the Tevez money was used to secure the £18 million pound Santander loan McCabe had the club take out to build the hotel..bad luck building that hotel

 

[Harry's Game]

Tit or not, at least you are honest.

IIRC about 80% wanted Adkins, 10% Warburton and 10% wanted various other tosspots.

We moan about McCabe's choices but we'd have been pretty shit at picking managers too. I remember grinning like a twat in October 2013 thinking we'd got a real long term manager in Clough.

Well Adkins yes I along with most thought he was the perfect choice.

Clough? Well quite a few of us who kept tabs on the Derby fans thoughts expressed our serious doubts about that one. Turned out we were right.

 

[Hodgesleftpeg]

Tit or not, at least you are honest.

IIRC about 80% wanted Adkins, 10% Warburton and 10% wanted various other tosspots.

We moan about McCabe's choices but we'd have been pretty shit at picking managers too. I remember grinning like a twat in October 2013 thinking we'd got a real long term manager in Clough.

I was the other way with Clough to be honest.. I just thought given his track record he wasn't the one for us, never had a league promotion as a manager... something which we were/are desperate for..appoint him til the end of that season maybe.. but I didn't feel he was the right long term appointment for us at that time..seemed to be someone happy to just consolidate..(although from his appointment til the end of that season was fantastic!!- should have sacked him after that!!!! )


For me, KMc's biggest mistakes were

Not keeping Warnock on for a promotion charge after relegation.. "get us up Neil, then move upstairs and be our new Mr Dooley"

A nice way of saying you're a great lower league manager but can't hack the premier league..

Bryan Robson

Timing of Blackwells sacking ..Blackwell gave an interview straight after the play off final defeat where he said he didn't know if he was gonna be here next season..should have got him in on the Monday morning and said thanks very much Kev but I want to freshen it up!!.. not sack him just cuz we've lost at home to warnocks new team!!!

Timing of Danny Wilsons sacking- he knows he fucked that up

Timing of Nigel Cloughs sacking- don't let him do his release and retained list then have a meeting and sack him!!


NOT GETTING CHRIS WILDER IN EARLIER!!!!

 

[Sean Thornton]

I was the other way with Clough to be honest.. I just thought given his track record he wasn't the one for us, never had a league promotion as a manager... something which we were/are desperate for..appoint him til the end of that season maybe.. but I didn't feel he was the right long term appointment for us at that time..seemed to be someone happy to just consolidate..(although from his appointment til the end of that season was fantastic!!- should have sacked him after that!!!! )


For me, KMc's biggest mistakes were

Not keeping Warnock on for a promotion charge after relegation.. "get us up Neil, then move upstairs and be our new Mr Dooley"

A nice way of saying you're a great lower league manager but can't hack the premier league..

Bryan Robson

Timing of Blackwells sacking ..Blackwell gave an interview straight after the play off final defeat where he said he didn't know if he was gonna be here next season..should have got him in on the Monday morning and said thanks very much Kev but I want to freshen it up!!.. not sack him just cuz we've lost at home to warnocks new team!!!

Timing of Danny Wilsons sacking- he knows he fucked that up

Timing of Nigel Cloughs sacking- don't let him do his release and retained list then have a meeting and sack him!!


NOT GETTING CHRIS WILDER IN EARLIER!!!!

New Mr Dooley made me laugh. New Mr Woolhouse more like

 

[spongebobblade]

Harry Bassett was advising Mccabe, wanted him all along,dont believe he was actually interviewed but Harry was first to tell Mccabe that he was right along and should have been the number 1 target.

Sorry but that not right. At an evening with Dave Bassett he stood up and told the story you mention but Harry's recommendation at the time was Sean Dyche, not Wilder

 

[8lade]

I don't think there's any doubt that keeping United afloat has been an expensive business, some self inflicted, some just the way it is.
We've heard a few times, 'we need to cut our cloth...' and this apparently has been carried out only for a year or 2 later to hear the same thing again!
However now the lessons have been learnt (please don't be daft with cash again) and we have turned the corner and we have a manager who won't be held to ransom, we are able to compete at any given level without wrecking the finances.
Competing at this level means challenging for promotion. At Championship, it will mean maintaining our status and growing it year on year. If we make it to the Prem, it will mean at the very least battling relegation but prepped to challenge for it again the next season.

 

[spongebobblade]

So you reckon he's had the Sky money PL money and incoming transfer fees?

Really?

Yes that's right Sean because the club employs hundreds of people and none of them want paying. They all do it for free don't they??
Running costs? What running costs?

 

[boo radley]

Are you upset at something? Or just being a dick for the sake of it?

Why do you have to answer for the Thread starter, can he not speak for himself? Ah personal abuse. Great debating skills.

 

[Revolution]

McCabe's tenure cannot be assessed properly until it is over, really.

At present, with the club mired in its longest ever spell in the third tier, and with his 15 year record showing 1 promotion and 2 relegations, his record is a poor one. His record of managerial appointments is poor and our record in the transfer market is poor on the whole. He has been unlucky with injuries and things beyond his control (Evans).

Hopefully that balance is redressed, starting with this season.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

I'll second all of that. Its just a shame that McCabe hasn't been able to spot a decent manager more often than not. Got it right with Warnock, Wilson and Wilder in my view. We can all agree on Warnock and Wilder, some might not agree with Wilson but that;s another debate.

But he didn't get it right with Warnock, Wilson and Wilder did he? He didn't back Warnock sufficiently when in the Prem and then fired him when he was the best man to get us back to the Prem. So that's one he got wrong.

He fired Wilson on some spurious idea that the home form was letting us down, but failed to notice that the average points haul from home and away games was similar and we were still strongly in the play-offs. That was just an excuse anyway - he fired Wilson because he'd seen how a new manager coming in at Wednesday had given them an automatic boost in form and he thought doing the same thing at United could give us that same kind of lift at a time when our form was stuttering a bit. He totally underestimated how much the players and staff at Sheffield United respected Wilson and how gutted they were when he was cruelly sacked. So, that's two he got wrong.

And as for Wilder - this is one he has definitely got right. But after so many bad decisions on hiring and firing managers (and we've not even talked about sacking Blackwell after 3 games, or hiring Robson or hiring Weir or Adkins) then, I'm sorry, but I am inclined to think that the appointment of Wilder is serendipitous on McCabe's part (that means, it's more by luck than deliberate planning). I'm pretty sure that McCabe's main motivation in hiring Wilder will have been that he was cheap. After the expensive flop that was Adkins I think cheap would have been high on his list of qualities he was looking for. As it turns out he's really dropped on his feet this time. Wilder has all the qualities to become the best manager we've had since...whenever. I certainly think he's absolutely the right man for the right job at the right time. But I give McCabe little or no credit for that whatsoever. He hasn't a clue what he's doing in hiring and firing managers - and law of averages he was going to get it right sometime hopefully - and that's where we are now -thank God!