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Received a bit of flack for my post about KM yesterday and the pigs resolve to hold on to forrestieri, with some seemingly suggesting I was a closet owl which is absolute cat bollocks.

So in the interest of balance, ill make the points that KM:

1. HAS put over £90m of his and his families money into the club

2. Built and kept funding our academy

3. Been excellent with the ticket prices, which if he hadn't had done could've seen our fanbase decimated, given the tripe on show

4. Was decent enough to do the Q n As in person time n time again.

5. Whilst he's tried to blame too many things on bad luck. He did provide the funds for us to bring in the likes of Baxter, James wallace, cuvelier, Brayford and god knows what kind of wages the likes of Edgar, Sammon, Hammond and Woolford were on. That level of investment should've been enough to see us build a good team. He's made some stinking errors but he's also had a lot of bad luck.

6. He got us Chrissy Wilder



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Received a bit of flack for my post about KM yesterday and the pigs resolve to hold on to forrestieri, with some seemingly suggesting I was a closet owl which is absolute cat bollocks.

So in the interest of balance, ill make the points that KM:

1. HAS put over £90m of his and his families money into the club

2. Built and kept funding our academy

3. Been excellent with the ticket prices, which if he hadn't had done could've seen our fanbase decimated, given the tripe on show

4. Was decent enough to do the Q n As in person time n time again.

5. Whilst he's tried to blame too many things on bad luck. He did provide the funds for us to bring in the likes of Baxter, James wallace, cuvelier, Brayford and god knows what kind of wages the likes of Edgar, Sammon, Hammond and Woolford were on. That level of investment should've been enough to see us build a good team. He's made some stinking errors but he's also had a lot of bad luck.

6. He got us Chrissy Wilder



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Which translates as you would need to be a basket case to want to run a football club. Or stinking Rich with nowt better to spend it on !!!!

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Which translates as you would need to be a basket case to want to run a football club. Or stinking Rich with nowt better to spend it on !!!!

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Or, as is surely no secret, he thought he could make money on it. As does the Prince. Kevin McCabe is as much a Blade as any of us but being a clever and succesful man I'm sure he was aware of the risks of buying a football club. He obviously thought his business plan could overcome those risks.




Cue, " he's made millions out of us" rants.
 
Received a bit of flack for my post about KM yesterday and the pigs resolve to hold on to forrestieri, with some seemingly suggesting I was a closet owl which is absolute cat bollocks.

So in the interest of balance, ill make the points that KM:

1. HAS put over £90m of his and his families money into the club

2. Built and kept funding our academy

3. Been excellent with the ticket prices, which if he hadn't had done could've seen our fanbase decimated, given the tripe on show

4. Was decent enough to do the Q n As in person time n time again.

5. Whilst he's tried to blame too many things on bad luck. He did provide the funds for us to bring in the likes of Baxter, James wallace, cuvelier, Brayford and god knows what kind of wages the likes of Edgar, Sammon, Hammond and Woolford were on. That level of investment should've been enough to see us build a good team. He's made some stinking errors but he's also had a lot of bad luck.

6. He got us Chrissy Wilder



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McCabe apologist.....
 
Or, as is surely no secret, he thought he could make money on it. As does the Prince. Kevin McCabe is as much a Blade as any of us but being a clever and succesful man I'm sure he was aware of the risks of buying a football club. He obviously thought his business plan could overcome those risks.




Cue, " he's made millions out of us" rants.

When is he putting the rent up?
 
Received a bit of flack for my post about KM yesterday and the pigs resolve to hold on to forrestieri, with some seemingly suggesting I was a closet owl which is absolute cat bollocks.

So in the interest of balance, ill make the points that KM:

1. HAS put over £90m of his and his families money into the club

2. Built and kept funding our academy

3. Been excellent with the ticket prices, which if he hadn't had done could've seen our fanbase decimated, given the tripe on show

4. Was decent enough to do the Q n As in person time n time again.

5. Whilst he's tried to blame too many things on bad luck. He did provide the funds for us to bring in the likes of Baxter, James wallace, cuvelier, Brayford and god knows what kind of wages the likes of Edgar, Sammon, Hammond and Woolford were on. That level of investment should've been enough to see us build a good team. He's made some stinking errors but he's also had a lot of bad luck.

6. He got us Chrissy Wilder



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I'll second all of that. Its just a shame that McCabe hasn't been able to spot a decent manager more often than not. Got it right with Warnock, Wilson and Wilder in my view. We can all agree on Warnock and Wilder, some might not agree with Wilson but that;s another debate.
 
As far as I'm concerned, McCabe's only 'crime' has been certain choices of Manager and his catastrophic backing of one of them. Obviously these are major decisions which have put us where we are but as a Chairman, and a Blade, it's hard to knock his efforts over the years. He could easily have sold out completely to the Prince and presumably got back a huge wad of cash but wanted to make sure the club didn't go the way of many others.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing where Managers are concerned but you have to look at the bigger picture of how much better a state the club is in since he took over, the League position will come good.
 
Can't see the point of going over it all again.

He took over, Warnock pushed for a job and got one. We did well.

He made some monumentally stupid decisions that I don't need to list. We did bad. He lost several fortunes.

He took the hit, then found the Prince.

He made some more questionable decisions. We continued to flounder. He took another hit to the wallet and ego.

He found Wilder. Wilder was able to improve the squad whilst cutting the wage bill. He's the managerial equivalent of rocking horse shit.

He's probably still losing money but his heart seems to be in it and he knows he's got a good'un.

That's it really.
 
Choosing managers is easy, everybody's an expert, how many times has anybody selected somebody as a good choice only for him to go somewhere else and then 1/2/3 years later and a couple of clubs and nobody suggests him the next time because hes crap, and suggest somebody else and on it goes,Well nobody remembers what a fan mentions but the person who has to gets hammered for being incompetent even though he has probably selected mgers/ directors in other businesses with success. I am not savvy with what process is used in selecting a new manager, I presume the board of directors draw up a list targets and narrow it down and after interviews offer the post, does KM ignore them and say this is who its going to be? Or is it a joint discision and when it fails he as the figure head takes the responsibility? I dont know but guess some on here do, I will give you Robson, possibly the worst and probably KM' s choice.
 



Choosing managers is easy, everybody's an expert, how many times has anybody selected somebody as a good choice only for him to go somewhere else and then 1/2/3 years later and a couple of clubs and nobody suggests him the next time because hes crap, and suggest somebody else and on it goes,Well nobody remembers what a fan mentions but the person who has to gets hammered for being incompetent even though he has probably selected mgers/ directors in other businesses with success. I am not savvy with what process is used in selecting a new manager, I presume the board of directors draw up a list targets and narrow it down and after interviews offer the post, does KM ignore them and say this is who its going to be? Or is it a joint discision and when it fails he as the figure head takes the responsibility? I dont know but guess some on here do, I will give you Robson, possibly the worst and probably KM' s choice.

I believe Wilder has been interviewed before?
Maybe someone can verify???
 
Was he interviewed after Clough got the boot?
 
1. HAS put over £90m of his and his families money into the club

How much is his personal stake in the club worth now? The way you have framed that statement, you'd lead us to believe he had the breadknife in his kids' piggybank and has pissed ninety large into the club for no return. One answer, no 'read the accounts'. How much is the football club worth to him either directly or indirectly via the parent entities?

2. Built and kept funding our academy

What? Personally? Did he attract joint investment or any grants for this? What effect has the academy had on the wealth of the club as an investment?

3. Been excellent with the ticket prices, which if he hadn't had done could've seen our fanbase decimated, given the tripe on show

This season he has dropped ST prices by 10%. Its a strategic apology for year on year failure. He knew that after last year's debacle, he'd have to do something worthy.

4. Was decent enough to do the Q n As in person time n time again.

Again, what did it prove other than he is entrenched and pretty clueless, given he'd once again hired a failure, sold talent and wouldn't divulge any real answers to pertinent questions regarding the running of the club?

5. Whilst he's tried to blame too many things on bad luck. He did provide the funds for us to bring in the likes of Baxter, James wallace, cuvelier, Brayford and god knows what kind of wages the likes of Edgar, Sammon, Hammond and Woolford were on. That level of investment should've been enough to see us build a good team. He's made some stinking errors but he's also had a lot of bad luck.

So he bought a shower of duds? At the expense of a legion of good players ... recently from Blackman to Murphy. I mean, this club convulsed in agony when Currie went up the M1. It was shaken to the core when Deane and Fjortoft disappeared in the same week. When Browny went to Spurs we weren't surprised but we felt the pain. By the time Murphy went we were gladly accepting 'if he wanted to go, we couldn't do anything about it', like it was matter of fact. Don't believe the hype.

6. He got us Chrissy Wilder

Yes. He also got us Bryan Robson, David Weir and a few other unspectacular failures, each a withering addition to our litany of pay-offs and sackings. I won't decry Wilder's ability if you paid me to. He is a canny manager who has proven he knows a player and a team when he sees one, and knows how to craft this into our four point lead at the top. But our top scorer is one brick thick. A recurrence of Sharp's injury he had at Southampton could very well wither away our supremacy and end us dumped into the playoffs. We are approaching halfway through the JTW and Wilder has publically announced he has targets ... another proven forward, some winger talent and left back could do with additional ability. And we need to be sure we are set to add to that next season ... as he has very publically promised.

Good news about EEL.

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Amen.

pommpey
 
I'd just stick with less disputable facts:

His heart is in the club.
Most of his managerial appointments were sound, only Robson did I 'know' would be a disaster all the others I thought were good appointments or at least acceptable AS DID ALMOST EVERYBODY ON EVERY BLADES forum.


Or, as is surely no secret, he thought he could make money on it. As does the Prince.

I'm glad you brought this up, I thought there was only me who remembers the prince insisting it was an investment when he was hailed as the messiah.
 
we are all aware that McCabes dropped some major clangers, but hes been our sole source of income for 15 years or more
any chairman can over that sort of time period drop the ball
take the birthday boy

Bryan Robson 60 today showed his take on managers
saw the good bits on his cv , ignored the glaring short comings Robson had
his selection of men to lead the club is at best 50 50 , and thats being kind

but to tip all our woes on him is unjust
when all,s said and done a football club is about players , getting results, under a managers stewardship
a chairman , apart from one or two who think they can pick a team just put the funds in

as to how much hes put in gross
wednesday got in 36 m pound of debt
we took in about the same so hes covered that at least
and 5 m a season shortfall for the past 10 years
 
I'll second all of that. Its just a shame that McCabe hasn't been able to spot a decent manager more often than not. Got it right with Warnock, Wilson and Wilder in my view. We can all agree on Warnock and Wilder, some might not agree with Wilson but that;s another debate.
Aha !! I see the pattern. Should,God forbid, we lose Wilder any time soon then KM should only have a shortlist of Wenger, Wagner and err umm Woodwardfan ? ;)
 
Received a bit of flack for my post about KM yesterday and the pigs resolve to hold on to forrestieri, with some seemingly suggesting I was a closet owl which is absolute cat bollocks.

So in the interest of balance, ill make the points that KM:

1. HAS put over £90m of his and his families money into the club

2. Built and kept funding our academy

3. Been excellent with the ticket prices, which if he hadn't had done could've seen our fanbase decimated, given the tripe on show

4. Was decent enough to do the Q n As in person time n time again.

5. Whilst he's tried to blame too many things on bad luck. He did provide the funds for us to bring in the likes of Baxter, James wallace, cuvelier, Brayford and god knows what kind of wages the likes of Edgar, Sammon, Hammond and Woolford were on. That level of investment should've been enough to see us build a good team. He's made some stinking errors but he's also had a lot of bad luck.

6. He got us Chrissy Wilder



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Received a bit of flack for my post about KM yesterday and the pigs resolve to hold on to forrestieri, with some seemingly suggesting I was a closet owl which is absolute cat bollocks.

So in the interest of balance, ill make the points that KM:

1. HAS put over £90m of his and his families money into the club

2. Built and kept funding our academy

3. Been excellent with the ticket prices, which if he hadn't had done could've seen our fanbase decimated, given the tripe on show

4. Was decent enough to do the Q n As in person time n time again.

5. Whilst he's tried to blame too many things on bad luck. He did provide the funds for us to bring in the likes of Baxter, James wallace, cuvelier, Brayford and god knows what kind of wages the likes of Edgar, Sammon, Hammond and Woolford were on. That level of investment should've been enough to see us build a good team. He's made some stinking errors but he's also had a lot of bad luck.

6. He got us Chrissy Wilder



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Sorry stopped reading at point 1 £90 mil in . How much have they taken out ? He's a business man , he makes money .
 
WestHam comp was pocketed though ? Il say this for him, he is the only blade with millions and willing to invest in the club...and he is still investing despite the monumental losses he made. Now thats either stupidity, loyalty or bloody stubbornness. Actually its all 3.
 
Sorry stopped reading at point 1 £90 mil in . How much have they taken out ? He's a business man , he makes money .


He's had a fair lump of that £90m out but has written most of the rest off. The hotel loses him money, the old Plc loses him money and the FC loses him and the Prince money as things stand.

I've still to see where anyone can actually show where he's made money from the club. Even fag packets figures in crayon.






And he didn't pocket the net £19m from West Ham, it was used to pay off bank borrowings arising from the Robson debacle.
 
can you show me one non prem chairman whos making money out of football

You'll never get any actual evidence that KMc or any other league chairman has taken more money out of a club than put in. That won't stop the conspiracy theorists assuring you that's the case. They just see us selling our talent year on year and not taking into consideration what we've spent.

No one has even mentioned the continual development of the ground and facilities while KMc has been chairman. Just needs to sort the Kop out.
 
You'll never get any actual evidence that KMc or any other league chairman has taken more money out of a club than put in. That won't stop the conspiracy theorists assuring you that's the case. They just see us selling our talent year on year and not taking into consideration what we've spent.

No one has even mentioned the continual development of the ground and facilities while KMc has been chairman. Just needs to sort the Kop out.



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You'll never get any actual evidence that KMc or any other league chairman has taken more money out of a club than put in. That won't stop the conspiracy theorists assuring you that's the case. They just see us selling our talent year on year and not taking into consideration what we've spent.

No one has even mentioned the continual development of the ground and facilities while KMc has been chairman. Just needs to sort the Kop out.
yes selling one player a year for a million or 2 , he must be minted
nothing to do with out goings being 6 million more than gate receipts and other income

get a spread sheet for the past 15 years and see how much money from player sales there is against players weve bought
then like the first year after the prem relegation how our income was 10 million and the wage bill 24 million
and add up all the other bits

like weve got the desso 2m and relayed the pitches at the academy , that takes care of the past 2 years sales on its own, thats before eels wages and the rest
 



Received a bit of flack for my post about KM yesterday and the pigs resolve to hold on to forrestieri, with some seemingly suggesting I was a closet owl which is absolute cat bollocks.

So in the interest of balance, ill make the points that KM:

1. HAS put over £90m of his and his families money into the club

2. Built and kept funding our academy

3. Been excellent with the ticket prices, which if he hadn't had done could've seen our fanbase decimated, given the tripe on show

4. Was decent enough to do the Q n As in person time n time again.

5. Whilst he's tried to blame too many things on bad luck. He did provide the funds for us to bring in the likes of Baxter, James wallace, cuvelier, Brayford and god knows what kind of wages the likes of Edgar, Sammon, Hammond and Woolford were on. That level of investment should've been enough to see us build a good team. He's made some stinking errors but he's also had a lot of bad luck.

6. He got us Chrissy Wilder



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