If we lose...

[Ashtonsmashton]

If we lose the playoffs would you like to see Clough leave?

At the moment I'm in the middle. I like what he's done in the cup and I think with a few additional players we would be automatic contenders, however I thought the same last year and his additions haven't really had that affect, the search for a striker has affected or search to bolster the squad.

Also the times I've seen us play this season, the tactics have been all over the place, with long balls to the shortest man on the pitch. messy defending and a bit of dodgy goalkeepering. Most of that can easily be sorted out though, and this is why I'm undecided so I would like to see what you guys think.

 

[davidpinder]

If we lose the playoffs would you like to see Clough leave?

At the moment I'm in the middle. I like what he's done in the cup and I think with a few additional players we would be automatic contenders, however I thought the same last year and his additions haven't really had that affect, the search for a striker has affected or search to bolster the squad.

Also the times I've seen us play this season, the tactics have been all over the place, with long balls to the shortest man on the pitch. messy defending and a bit of dodgy goalkeepering. Most of that can easily be sorted out though, and this is why I'm undecided so I would like to see what you guys think.

I am the same I think it may have to depend how we perform in the playoffs, lose both games and play shite he may have to go, play well and even lose in the final but played well maybe give him another chance.

 

[Bladesman]

Depends who is available over the summer.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

tell you what - lets have ANOTHER post/poll about Clough in/out.

WE ARE IN THE FUCKING PLAY OFFS - WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE.

CAN YOU NOT WAIT UNTIL IT HAS HAPPENED - EITHER WAY?

UTB

 

[Going up]

tell you what - lets have ANOTHER post/pole about Clough in/out.

WE ARE IN THE FUCKING PLAY OFFS - WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOME PEOPLE.

CAN YOU NOT WAIT UNTIL IT HAS HAPPENED - EITHER WAY?

UTB

Totally

 

[JohnDenver]

Tough call given the pressure. If I was a director I'd bring him in for a long chat, and if his diagnosis of our failings matched mine, and his plans to solve them seemed logical, then Clough gets another season.

He's built a squad with an eye on the medium term, so reverting to another quick fix manager could be disastrous.

 

[DorsetSUFC]

If it goes tits up in the play offs this year - he has had a good look at it, so next year with a few quality additions there should be no excuse - promotion or out.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

Previously I was in the "In" camp, but then Brizzle put 8 past Walsall to polish off a spectacular season and it struck me that we're never going to be in danger of doing that under Clough.

 

[JohnDenver]

Previously I was in the "In" camp, but then Brizzle put 8 past Walsall to polish off a spectacular season and it struck me that we're never going to be in danger of doing that under Clough.

We've not hit 8 as long as I've been alive. Bassett out! Porterfield out!

 

[robbiez666]

It depends what happens in the play-off. If we play really well but are unlucky then maybe another season

 

[JohnDenver]

It depends what happens in the play-off. If we play really well but are unlucky then maybe another season

Aren't you then hinging a medium term decision on what are, effectively, a couple of cup ties?

We need to base it on Clough's whole 18 months. Which have been a mix.

 

[Harry's Game]

Od course he should go, we will have failed in the objective of promotion and played an awful brand of Anti-football all season.

However it's 99% certain they will let him waste the Summer transfer window whilst we miss out on promotion winning machines like Adkins and Lambert.

By November we will be looking for a new manager and another season will have been wasted.

 

[Worksop II]

We've not hit 8 as long as I've been alive. Bassett out! Porterfield out!

We have hit 7, so Bassett In

 

[dublin 10 blade]

In , end of story , and I hope the board comes out and says the same ,
Or we could get Mr umbrella man in he seems to finish of the work started by Mr Clough including leading the sheep into the prem ohhh wait .
Last season saved us from Div 4 semi-final of fa cup .
This season play-offs semi-final of league cup ,
I'd call that progress not as fast as I would like but stability is the name of the game .
Never mind some can undermine our club with negative this , that or the other .
In.
UTB.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

We've not hit 8 as long as I've been alive. Bassett out! Porterfield out!

Have we had any spectacular seasons?

 

[raul]

Aren't you then hinging a medium term decision on what are, effectively, a couple of cup ties?

We need to base it on Clough's whole 18 months. Which have been a mix.

Indeed, however the current trend is less Paul Oakenfeld and more Stock, Aitken and Waterman.

In for me, but only because I can't be arsed with the merry-go-round rather than any belief lessons will be learned.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

How anyone could want another season of that boring, defensive shite is beyond me. Time and time again we have been outplayed and outfought on our own ground. We should be dominating teams. To consistently play that way is nothing short of disgraceful.

Fortunately I think most fans are of a similar view - that's the impression I get at the matches themselves and on social media more generally. Clough seems to have a few supporters on here - but even here it is 50:50 which is hardly the sort of togetherness we need to go forward.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

In , end of story , and I hope the board comes out and says the same ,
Or we could get Mr umbrella man in he seems to finish of the work started by Mr Clough including leading the sheep into the prem ohhh wait .
Last season saved us from Div 4 semi-final of fa cup .
This season play-offs semi-final of league cup ,
I'd call that progress not as fast as I would like but stability is the name of the game .
Never mind some can undermine our club with negative this , that or the other .
In.
UTB.

Saved us from Div 4? LOL. Other than Weir himself absolutely anyone on the planet could have kept us up with the players we had last season.

 

[MobileBlade]

How anyone could want another season of that boring, defensive shite is beyond me. Time and time again we have been outplayed and outfought on our own ground. We should be dominating teams. To consistently play that way is nothing short of disgraceful.

Fortunately I think most fans are of a similar view - that's the impression I get at the matches themselves and on social media more generally. Clough seems to have a few supporters on here - but even here it is 50:50 which is hardly the sort of togetherness we need to go forward.

Thats because the 50 on here never go to the matches and base their opinion on the crap that Keith Edwards comes out with.

Think you must go to different matches from me. But the minority always shout the loudest.

 

[Bladebri]

I voted in, we stood by NC when we finished well last season, yes we have had a season of ups and downs but I feel if we don't win the playoffs, he will succeed in getting us to promotion next season. I'm willing to give him 1 more go. IMO

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Thats because the 50 on here never go to the matches and base their opinion on the crap that Keith Edwards comes out with.

Think you must go to different matches from me. But the minority always shout the loudest.

I go to watch the Blades. Fck knows where you have been going.

 

[MobileBlade]

I go to watch the Blades. Fck knows where you have been going.

I mean the vocals. Will admit not going today though. Had to endure Keith Edwards negativity whilst sat in a bar in Playa Blanca (holiday alert!) watching Preston - who were truly awful and deserved to lose

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Thats because the 50 on here never go to the matches and base their opinion on the crap that Keith Edwards comes out with.

Think you must go to different matches from me. But the minority always shout the loudest.

Never hear Keith on the radio , but pound to a penny , he voices his opinion which he has a right to do . I bet it doesn't differ from the majority of fans thoughts anyway . He know doubt says it how he sees it , on the performance . Edwards will not call for the managers head as some do on this forum.

Lets stick with Clough , until we know were we are this season. Even if we do get promotion , i still get the feeling some fans want us to fail , so Clough falls on his sword.

It has been a hit and miss season , and i know Clough has not done himself any favours to date.

We have the play offs , to show our true potential , and determine if Clough can achieve us promotion.

In for me and i am sure for the majority of fans and the board.

UTB

 

[Kenilworth]

If it makes anyone feel any better Jack Lester was the co comm from the Chessy perspective and agreed with all that Keith said about forward passing as opposed to side and back. He said that the one up front couldn't hold onto the ball as he was isolated and since he was marked there was no forward option. Also can't understand all 10 outfield players back at a corner and couldn't understand why we didn't take players on to get around them but checked back and played it back.

Jack stated he much preferred playing as a pair in attack and he wasn't sure about Che or DCL since they looked like rookies

 

[Kenilworth]

Jack also said that we created very little and the goal was a great piece of individual opportunism as opposed to a slick and incisive passage of play. We created very little else beyond that whereas Chesterfield got in and beyond us several times.

 

[YES Blade]

It's a definite promotion or the sack for me.

We have finished with only 4 points more than last season, which is pathetic when you look at how poor of a record we had under Weir.

So the points per game average under Clough is worse this season than last. I expect to see progress from a manager especially when he is given one of the biggest in the division.

 

[Blade58]

It's a definite promotion or the sack for me.

We have finished with only 4 points more than last season, which is pathetic when you look at how poor of a record we had under Weir.

So the points per game average under Clough is worse this season than last. I expect to see progress from a manager especially when he is given one of the biggest in the division.

I'm heading towards that camp also.

Obviously, we all would prefer stability, but just not sure I can trust him to deliver

The fact he's sacked off two centre backs and had the entire season to replace them and yet here we find ourselves having to play players out of their natural positions to compensate, affecting the balance of the team, amounts to gross negligence in my book

 

[blade too long]

we got relegated from the prem on gd , 4 points is the difference of making the play offs or not
point spreads vary year to year

owls got 2 more points this season than 2 years ago when they were in mire up to last day
way their fans go on theyve improved no end
but because 3 teams have looked doomed since xmas they think theyve been much better
been far more competitive in league one this season as colchester fucking over preston today shows

 

[Paulus]

Teams who jump for quick changes of manager invariably build up problems - classic example Notts County relegated today -
Steve Cotterill, Craig Short, Paul Ince, Carl Heggs, Martin Allen, Keith Curle, Chris Kiwomya, Shaun Derry, Ricardo Moniz, 9 managers in 4.5 years. Who the hell will want to go there next season if, as given the track record, they get rid of Moniz over the summer? If you look at that list it's a real mixture of guys with decent track records, local heroes and off the wall punts - the bottom line is when you appoint someone no one really knows how it will go.

Yes of course people are frustrated by the things that have gone wrong this season, that we haven't achieved automatic, that Clough has made misjudgements in selection, tactics, personnel, but at the same time to my mind there are positives as well, the youth development seems much more co-ordinated with the first team, there seems more professionalism throughout the running of the club, the cup runs have been great and we are seeing a desire to play better football being embedded throughout the team. We have a plan and given time it is a plan that I think will work. To sack Clough now and start again on the off chance that a new bloke might suddenly make everything good strikes me as the counsel of desperation, a bit like voting UKIP and thinking that will miraculously solve the countries problems.

 

[zablade]

Teams who jump for quick changes of manager invariably build up problems - classic example Notts County relegated today -
Steve Cotterill, Craig Short, Paul Ince, Carl Heggs, Martin Allen, Keith Curle, Chris Kiwomya, Shaun Derry, Ricardo Moniz, 9 managers in 4.5 years. Who the hell will want to go there next season if, as given the track record, they get rid of Moniz over the summer? If you look at that list it's a real mixture of guys with decent track records, local heroes and off the wall punts - the bottom line is when you appoint someone no one really knows how it will go.

Yes of course people are frustrated by the things that have gone wrong this season, that we haven't achieved automatic, that Clough has made misjudgements in selection, tactics, personnel, but at the same time to my mind there are positives as well, the youth development seems much more co-ordinated with the first team, there seems more professionalism throughout the running of the club, the cup runs have been great and we are seeing a desire to play better football being embedded throughout the team. We have a plan and given time it is a plan that I think will work. To sack Clough now and start again on the off chance that a new bloke might suddenly make everything good strikes me as the counsel of desperation, a bit like voting UKIP and thinking that will miraculously solve the countries problems.

It's not just that we look likely to miss out on promotion, it's that the football has been utterly depressingly boring for almost the entire season.

The ones who say give Clough next season have not been able to convince me of any reason why, in what is shaping up to be a more difficult league than this season, things are likely to be any better?