If we go down under Adams...

[Highbury_Blade]

......will he be the right man to bring us back up?

Loan windows opens up this week and Adams will have his work cut out getting the quality in that we need.

Willo's suspension hasn't helped matters (stupid idiot), but if he doesn't bring some quality wingers in then were are totally boned.

Will he even be here by May?

 

[Stafford Blade]

......will he be the right man to bring us back up?

Loan windows opens up this week and Adams will have his work cut out getting the quality in that we need.

Willo's suspension hasn't helped matters (stupid idiot), but if he doesn't bring some quality wingers in then were are totally boned.

Will he even be here by May?

i think you may need to change the wording on your title from if to when.

It's all well and good relying on williamson, but he'll be injured again in a couple of weeks. Getting Hendo back might give us half a chance

 

[Rudders]

Didn't the same thing happen at Port Vale?

Adams takes over, things don't work straight up. Fans start chuntering. He transfer listed the entire team if I recall. Then I presume he got rid of them and built a new team.

They may have even got relegated so the similarities are there.

FWIW I don't think we are nailed on to go down just yet!

 

[Bladesway]

FWIW I don't think we are nailed on to go down just yet!

Nailed, welded, glued and even Fuzzy Felted on for Relegation I'm afraid.

 

[Yossarian]

Nailed, welded, glued and even Fuzzy Felted on for Relegation I'm afraid.

I'm not having it. I'll eat my head if we go down.

 

[ListerBlade]

I'm not having it. I'll eat my head if we go down.

i hope you don't have an abnormally large head, it will be very filling

 

[SwissBlade]

Do you mean if we go down from the PL? Lets just get there first eh Highbury, you're looking a season ahead when he still has plenty of work to do to get us promoted

 

[SotonBlade]

I'm not having it. I'll eat my head if we go down.

Will you video it and put it in the Pig and Truffle if you do?

 

[Selly]

I'm not having it. I'll eat my head if we go down.

Flexible are we????

Apparently 1/10 men can, so the odds are some on here can....

 

[JohnDenver]

A little look into your future, Yossarian...

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Flexible are we????

Apparently 1/10 men can, so the odds are some on here can....

To butcher a joke from Bill Hicks.... If that was true, the one in ten you refer to wouldn't find time to be posting on here at all.

 

[raul]

Duncy's suddenly gone awol I notice....

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I haven't posted any reaction to Saturday's result up to this point because its difficult to say anything about United at the moment without covering old ground. Whilst I wouldn't like to say we're nailed on for relegation, it certainly looks increasingly likely at the moment. Recent form would suggest that there isnt much of hope of putting a run together. They dont exactly look like the sort of team that will turn one win into a run of wins.....regaining confidence is one thing, finding quality that isnt there is something else entirely.

Whilst the buck ultimately stops with the manager, I just think it is far too early to place blame on Micky Adams. I realise he still hasnt overseen a win yet but with what he has been left to work with I hardly find it surprising. I've seen much better sides get relegated with games to spare.

Is he the right man to bring us back if we go down?.......why not?! I dont see any better candidates around that would want this job at the moment and if anyone saves us this season I think it will be the gaffer. I dont have a lot of faith in the playing staff which is why I think it will be too big an ask for Micky. But if the third tier is where we end up come August, I believe Micky can build his own squad and bring us back. Whether it would be immediate is another question.....I dont think we've bottomed out yet and I'm not sure when we will.

All we can do is support and hope for something to change somehow and quickly. Micky will be here come May and beyond unless he is shown the door. He's no quitter and will give it 100% until he makes a success of it. I am convinced that anyone would be perfoming the same at this point, Micky is just the poor sap that has taken the job. He has my full backing and I trust he is doing the best he can, but he's going to need some extraordinary luck (that we're not currently getting) to keep us up.

 

[mall]

Duncy's suddenly gone awol I notice....

He's on Blades ReUnited where all the roses are in full bloom, the butterflies are perched on the Buddliea and the the sky is not cloudy all day.
He is still expounding his 'it doesn't really matter, there are more important things in life' mantras.
The man is unbelievable.

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I haven't posted any reaction to Saturday's result up to this point because its difficult to say anything about United at the moment without covering old ground. Whilst I wouldn't like to say we're nailed on for relegation, it certainly looks increasingly likely at the moment. Recent form would suggest that there isnt much of hope of putting a run together. They dont exactly look like the sort of team that will turn one win into a run of wins.....regaining confidence is one thing, finding quality that isnt there is something else entirely.

Whilst the buck ultimately stops with the manager, I just think it is far too early to place blame on Micky Adams. I realise he still hasnt overseen a win yet but with what he has been left to work with I hardly find it surprising. I've seen much better sides get relegated with games to spare.

Is he the right man to bring us back if we go down?.......why not?! I dont see any better candidates around that would want this job at the moment and if anyone saves us this season I think it will be the gaffer. I dont have a lot of faith in the playing staff which is why I think it will be too big an ask for Micky. But if the third tier is where we end up come August, I believe Micky can build his own squad and bring us back. Whether it would be immediate is another question.....I dont think we've bottomed out yet and I'm not sure when we will.

All we can do is support and hope for something to change somehow and quickly. Micky will be here come May and beyond unless he is shown the door. He's no quitter and will give it 100% until he makes a success of it. I am convinced that anyone would be perfoming the same at this point, Micky is just the poor sap that has taken the job. He has my full backing and I trust he is doing the best he can, but he's going to need some extraordinary luck (that we're not currently getting) to keep us up.

You don't think that he has maybe bitten off more than he can chew, perhaps?

 

[SteelCity Blade]

You don't think that he has maybe bitten off more than he can chew, perhaps?

I think this job is more than anyone could chew at the moment.

 

[Houso]

If he takes us down, I think he would take us back up.... that said, I think if upon choosing a new boss relegation was as real a possibility as it is now, we missed a HUGE opportunity in not getting SoD.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

If he takes us down, I think he would take us back up.... that said, I think if upon choosing a new boss relegation was as real a possibility as it is now, we missed a HUGE opportunity in not getting SoD.

Some of our fans really need to get over this SOD idea. He didnt want to come and I am as convinced as I've ever been that no one would be doing any better than Adams. The squad is shit and there is no money....."here's a pile of shit Micky, build me a house."

Romantic ideas about SOD turning us into Arsenal are for another time. No one could get this lot doing anymore than scrapping for the odd point. I would also like to point out that Donny's recent form and league position further proves my belief that SOD (and his team) are wildly overrated on the strength of being a small, over-performing club.

Micky is the right man long term. Short term there is no right man because there is nothing to work with at present.

 

[Micalijo]

Some of our fans really need to get over this SOD idea. He didnt want to come and I am as convinced as I've ever been that no one would be doing any better than Adams. The squad is shit and there is no money....."here's a pile of shit Micky, build me a house."

Romantic ideas about SOD turning us into Arsenal are for another time. No one could get this lot doing anymore than scrapping for the odd point. I would also like to point out that Donny's recent form and league position further proves my belief that SOD (and his team) are wildly overrated on the strength of being a small, over-performing club.

Micky is the right man long term. Short term there is no right man because there is nothing to work with at present.

You don't half spout some rubbish about SOD as far as I'm concerned. I beluieve he wanted to come - happy with sources as no doubt you are with yours. Keeping them afloat in second tier and doing so whilst playing half decent football is a minor miracle.

Also what's this Arsenal rubbish? Just a couple of footballers would do - you can't use that one Steel - very lazy. No demands for promotion or for Arsenal style football - just a few passes and the appearance that I am not watching a pub side albeit with fitter players in.

 

[Robbie]

Some of our fans really need to get over this SOD idea. He didnt want to come

Says who? Did we even speak to him?

and I am as convinced as I've ever been that no one would be doing any better than Adams.

Really? There has been winnable games since he took over.

The squad is shit

It's not a bottom 3 squad though. In fact, you look at the players we have available, and I think we should be looking at mid-table.

Romantic ideas about SOD turning us into Arsenal are for another time.

I don't have any visions of us being turned into Arsenal. I believe people want to see a bit of football.

No one could get this lot doing anymore than scrapping for the odd point.

Really? We've won games this season already.
Are you really saying the team we have, are incapable of beliving they could get 3 points on a regular basis? Or even as a one off?

Micky is the right man long term.

I firmly believe MA was the short sighted approach to keep us up this term. SOD for me was the long term option.

 

[sheffielder]

You don't half spout some rubbish about SOD as far as I'm concerned. I beluieve he wanted to come - happy with sources as no doubt you are with yours. Keeping them afloat in second tier and doing so whilst playing half decent football is a minor miracle.

Also what's this Arsenal rubbish? Just a couple of footballers would do - you can't use that one Steel - very lazy. No demands for promotion or for Arsenal style football - just a few passes and the appearance that I am not watching a pub side albeit with fitter players in.

Don't normally agree with many of your posts Mic, but this my friend is 100% spot on. I wish people would stop saying that the fans are the unrealistic ones. I never asked for Europe in 5 years, I never asked for Robson, I never rejected Blamewells resignation. All we are asking for is a team to support> at the moment I am struggling to see the direction we are going in and how Micky's football is going to mirror John Pemberton's.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

You don't half spout some rubbish about SOD as far as I'm concerned. I beluieve he wanted to come - happy with sources as no doubt you are with yours. Keeping them afloat in second tier and doing so whilst playing half decent football is a minor miracle.

Also what's this Arsenal rubbish? Just a couple of footballers would do - you can't use that one Steel - very lazy. No demands for promotion or for Arsenal style football - just a few passes and the appearance that I am not watching a pub side albeit with fitter players in.

Most of the rubbish spouted about SOD is from the local media and certain pockets of the public swallow it in the usual sheepish fashion. SOD has had a lot more financial backing from John Ryan than a lot of clubs in this division who are out-performing them. Watford being just one and before that Blackpool, when they were in the Championship. John Ryan is the man to thank for that club's "success" not SOD and nothing will ever convince me otherwise.

You're saying its lazy of me to suggest our fans demand football we're not capable of? You're saying that if we had a couple of decent footballers our fans would be content? Come off it Mic! Some of our supporters would be moaning if we were second with a game in hand. People always want more. As far as lazy comments are concerned, your posts never change. I've got a lot of stones and I can see your lovely glass house.

On the subject of chairmen, McCabe being accountable for our current position is about the only thing I agree with you on. Seriously though, do you think SOD would have us doing any better at this moment in time?

 

[Micalijo]

Most of the rubbish spouted about SOD is from the local media and certain pockets of the public swallow it in the usual sheepish fashion. SOD has had a lot more financial backing from John Ryan than a lot of clubs in this division who are out-performing them. Watford being just one and before that Blackpool, when they were in the Championship. John Ryan is the man to thank for that club's "success" not SOD and nothing will ever convince me otherwise.

You're saying its lazy of me to suggest our fans demand football we're not capable of? You're saying that if we had a couple of decent footballers our fans would be content? Come off it Mic! Some of our supporters would be moaning if we were second with a game in hand. People always want more. As far as lazy comments are concerned, your posts never change. I've got a lot of stones and I can see your lovely glass house.

On the subject of chairmen, McCabe being accountable for our current position is about the only thing I agree with you on. Seriously though, do you think SOD would have us doing any better at this moment in time?

Given that he has achieved precisely what we want him to achieve with Donny for last 3 seasons - kept them afloat in second tier - then yes I seriously believe he would be doing better than this pre-historic, lower league, hoofball re-incarnation of Bassett at his worst and Blackwell at his worst.

We'll never agree on Donny so fair enough

Here's another lazy comment of yours - 'better teams than us have been relegated with games to spare'. Who? Not saying I agree or disagree as not sure what you're trying to say with that comment but who do mean?

 

[Grecian2000]

Seriously though, do you think SOD would have us doing any better at this moment in time?

If he doesn't, I certainly do! I was worried that it would take O'Driscoll a month or two to show signs of improvement but was confident it would happen.
With Adams, he's had that time (and a transfer window to work with) and it's looking just as bad as before.

I can see square pegs in round holes again and that's a major drawback in trying to avoid the drop.

 

[creswellblade79]

o driscoll this o driscoll that. The mans a muppet and doesnt/didnt have the balls to come to us so forget about him.

If you like o driscolls football go support donny

 

[Houso]

Exactly [edit, that was for Grecian]

Adams for me was the manager to keep us up through percentage football and motivation. I don't for one second believe he's done a bad job (dodgy signings aside), I just think that he's had a smattering of bad luck, a couple of poor decisions and has been unable to form a cohesive unit out of the squad.

SoD, even if he wasn't involved in our search for a new boss, WAS interested in coming and would have been the manager to stick with for the next five seasons regardless of whether we stayed in this league. What we're looking at now is the strong possibility of relegation with poor football to boot.

I don't want Arsenal, I want a new 'Blades Way' that doesn't have us living up to the rough and ready cloggers view that the UK football community has us pegged as.

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o driscoll this o driscoll that. The mans a muppet and doesnt/didnt have the balls to come to us so forget about him.

If you like o driscolls football go support donny

Go on then, explain that one to me?

And as for the second point, I enjoy Arsenal's football, I enjoy Barca's football, I enjoy Brazillian football... should I go support them?

I forget, we're Blades and have to plump for whatever shit is thrown at us. Fuck wanting more or something different, it's not the Blades Way.

 

[mall]

and how Micky's football is going to mirror John Pemberton's.

That my friend has been causing me some concern since Adams came here.
They are as far apart as can be and are just incompatible.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Given that he has achieved precisely what we want him to achieve with Donny for last 3 seasons - kept them afloat in second tier - then yes I seriously believe he would be doing better than this pre-historic, lower league, hoofball re-incarnation of Bassett at his worst and Blackwell at his worst.

We'll never agree on Donny so fair enough

Here's another lazy comment of yours - 'better teams than us have been relegated with games to spare'. Who? Not saying I agree or disagree as not sure what you're trying to say with that comment but who do mean?

The Plymouth side that went down last season played better football than we do and an immediate one that springs to mind (ok they went down on the last day) is the side from S2. The one that lost to Palace would beat our current crop any day of the week. Apart from that, I will roll some off from down the years if you like but is it really worth it?

The point being made was not to open up a debate on who I mean.....it was to emphasise my opinion that relegation looks likely for us and that I dont think we have the quality to escape. If I compare us to other sides I've seen get relegated in the past (like the ones above) I think we're worse. Simples.

No we wont ever agree on Donny or SOD for that matter, but with the way we've declined we'll never be able to say whether SOD would have done better or not because soon we wont be able to afford him or attract him to the club anyway (if we ever could in the first place).

 

[creswellblade79]

1) whats too explain ? if he wanted to be here he,d have handled the whole situation better instead of hiding behind a gobby chairman

2) if you like

 

[sheffielder]

The Plymouth side that went down last season played better football than we do and an immediate on that springs to mind (ok they went down on the last day) is the side from S2. The one that lost to Palace would beat our current crop any day of the week. Apart from that, I will roll some off from down the years if you like but is it really worth it?

The point being made was not to open up a debate on who I mean.....it was to emphasise my opinion that relegation looks likely for us and that I dont think we have the quality to escape. If I compare us to other sides I've seem get relegated in the past (like the ones above) I think we're worse. Simples.

No we wont ever agree on Donny or SOD for that matter, but with the way we've declined we'll never be able to say whether SOD would have done better or not because soon we wont be able to afford him or attract him to the club anyway (if we ever could in the first place).

My question to you SC is as follows.

It's August and we are now starting in Div2. Do you think we would be better off after 8 months of SOD or MA?

 

[Houso]

1) whats too explain ? if he wanted to be here he,d have handled the whole situation better instead of hiding behind a gobby chairman

2) if you like

1) Right, there are both strong suggestions from SoD and from reliable ITKers that he did apply for the job. John Ryan isn't relevant here. It would seem that we chose Adams over SoD. It's not about 'not having balls', it's about us not wanting him. I can understand why we chose Adams and although I wasn't excited about the appointment, I won't criticise it. That's not to say that I wouldn't have preferred SoD, because I would.

2) Do you not enjoy the football those teams play?

 

[creswellblade79]

1) Right, there are both strong suggestions from SoD and from reliable ITKers that he did apply for the job. John Ryan isn't relevant here. It would seem that we chose Adams over SoD. It's not about 'not having balls', it's about us not wanting him. I can understand why we chose Adams and although I wasn't excited about the appointment, I won't criticise it. That's not to say that I wouldn't have preferred SoD, because I would.

2) Do you not enjoy the football those teams play?

1) suggestions and itkers so no solid evidence of anything

2) in all honesty no i dont if i did id support them. i like a bit of a variety in my footy