I think I've stopped enjoying home games

[JasonEllis]

I think that as the players are being paid to do their job (i.e. play football) they should really be able to do this regardless of the supporters in the stands. I'd blame them before the fans everyday of the week.

 

[Cyprus Blade]

Never mind Nigel there's still time to pull it round. Meanwhile I nominate Samuel Beckett (deceased) as a replacement for those celebrities who buggered off at chedgate. He has captured the Blades way in a nutshell.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

With stats like these (similar to Peterbro and Crawley) and we can't manage a win! No wonder we don't enjoy home games. I would dispute 4. I think the quietness is due to the fact that we are almost expecting a poor result. We have lost the feeling of going home happy with a performance and 3 points.

18 EIGHTEEN corners

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Reminds me of a certain Dave Bassett game when we had 27 corners in the second half and still lost.....

 

[Blade56]

Reminds me of a certain Dave Bassett game when we had 27 corners in the second half and still lost.....

Nice Tets

 

[Silent Blade]

Reminds me of a certain Dave Bassett game when we had 27 corners in the second half and still lost.....

v West Ham at home in October 1989. Mark Ward scored twice for West Ham and Julian Dicks'penalty hit the crossbar. The rebound was so powerful that it created a breakaway chance for us! Keeper Phil Parkes had a good game just like he did for QPR 19 years earlier at the same ground!

 

[Kentblade]

v West Ham at home in October 1989. Mark Ward scored twice for West Ham and Julian Dicks'penalty hit the crossbar. The rebound was so powerful that it created a breakaway chance for us! Keeper Phil Parkes had a good game just like he did for QPR 19 years earlier at the same ground!

I remember that game as if it was yesterday.
Can it be 26 years ago!
UTB

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

Nice Tets

Are you sure? I'm disappointed they haven't been banned with all the others. Must be something wrong with them.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Stats mean buggar all !
Chelsea managed to lift the Champions League Trophy with less possession that Fleetwood had on Saturday !

I don't enjoy home games because I get fed up with all the negative numpties within our 'so called' supporters !!

Stats mean every thing.

1-2 means we got fuck all points.

 

[RedandWhite]

We have a right to moan, we spend our money to watch shit every week.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

So you start with this

Then go on to say all this




And you wonder why there are negative people in our fanbase? Now i don't see myself like this, i go and have a few drinks after and discuss it but each to their own. Jumping up and down against Spurs because we ran them close just goes to show we do have some talent at our club so you can surely understand the fans frustrations when we as a whole don't turn up for the so called lesser games.

It is true wiz - but isn't it a case of Spurs in both games actually allowed us to play our football - they expected to be and were just better at the finer points and didn't try the dark arts.

So called lesser clubs come to BDTBL and just play a closing down, sit deep roll.
It is as though football now has a home way of playing and an away way of playing.

We just can't hack it at home when we have to push on.

UTB

 

[Grecian2000]

It is true wiz - but isn't it a case of Spurs in both games actually allowed us to play our football - they expected to be and were just better at the finer points and didn't try the dark arts.

So called lesser clubs come to BDTBL and just play a closing down, sit deep roll.
It is as though football now has a home way of playing and an away way of playing.

We just can't hack it at home when we have to push on.

UTB

Bloody hell Fullers a logical explanation for our poor home form.

I've been sat here thinking it's because BDTBL is full of cunts who do nowt but moan, boo, shit in the food kiosks, eat babies and beat each other up (and the pie sellers if the balti is cold) and the away games are populated by fine upstanding young men who cheer, sing, help old ladies cross the road and spread their coats over puddles for young ladies, rather than anything on the pitch.

Radical thought process alert.

 

[wizadry]

It is true wiz - but isn't it a case of Spurs in both games actually allowed us to play our football - they expected to be and were just better at the finer points and didn't try the dark arts.

So called lesser clubs come to BDTBL and just play a closing down, sit deep roll.
It is as though football now has a home way of playing and an away way of playing.

We just can't hack it at home when we have to push on.

UTB

Not doubting any of that mate, all i will say is that in the cup games we give 110%, in most of the league games it looks like we are way short of 70% just as an example size. It's this that our fans don't like when we're not giving 100% for the cause.

 

[wizadry]

Bloody hell Fullers a logical explanation for our poor home form.

I've been sat here thinking it's because BDTBL is full of cunts who do nowt but moan, boo, shit in the food kiosks, eat babies and beat each other up (and the pie sellers if the balti is cold) and the away games are populated by fine upstanding young men who cheer, sing, help old ladies cross the road and spread their coats over puddles for young ladies, rather than anything on the pitch.

Radical thought process alert.

Quality G2000

 

[Sheff de party]

So we're a better side than Fleetwood but shouldn't expect to beat them?

I'm having similar misgivings so understand what you are saying, but having watched similar performances for the vast majority of League games I can also understand why the place is so quiet and simmering with frustration. We can argue the toss about the rights and wrongs but that's just the way it is now at most grounds - crowds are reactive rather than proactive.

This is true. There is some impetus on the players to inspire the crowd rather than always being vice versa.

What I mean with your original point is yes, we're a better side than Fleetwood, as we are than most teams in the league. But that doesn't mean we'll win every week or that will roll every team that pitches up at BL, so we shouldn't get pissed off/impatient that we're not 3-0 up after 20 minutes. I'm not excusing that performance on Saturday though

 

[Treeton Blade]

Now I find this baffling. United (and to be fair a lot of other teams) never have a man beyond the back post for when corners are over-hit or flicked backwards across goal. Fleetwood's goalie was tiny by goalkeeping standards but had a good game. However on one or two occasions he 'flapped' at crosses. If only we had somebody who could have briefed the team on this and played on it....

Some sort of scouting system might be required

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Bloody hell Fullers a logical explanation for our poor home form.

I've been sat here thinking it's because BDTBL is full of cunts who do nowt but moan, boo, shit in the food kiosks, eat babies and beat each other up (and the pie sellers if the balti is cold) and the away games are populated by fine upstanding young men who cheer, sing, help old ladies cross the road and spread their coats over puddles for young ladies, rather than anything on the pitch.

Radical thought process alert.

and here's me thinking this is S24SU - wasn't that a bladesmad answer..........

UTB

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Not doubting any of that mate, all i will say is that in the cup games we give 110%, in most of the league games it looks like we are way short of 70% just as an example size. It's this that our fans don't like when we're not giving 100% for the cause.

I think we do give 100%, we just can't or don't know how to play against teams that close us down.
We should stick to what we know best - three successive managers who all seem to want to play the same way.
Expected some developments from NC management team over the season but it just doesn't seem to be that way and we have not grown into the season.
The 4-4-2 experiment asked for by some seems to be an unmitigated disaster.

UTB

 

[wizadry]

I think we do give 100%, we just can't or don't know how to play against teams that close us down.
We should stick to what we know best - three successive managers who all seem to want to play the same way.
Expected some developments from NC management team over the season but it just doesn't seem to be that way and we have not grown into the season.
The 4-4-2 experiment asked for by some seems to be an unmitigated disaster.

UTB

Maybe our perceptions of 100% are different.

We only ever give 100% when it's either too late or late on in games, that's the only time we get anywhere near it for me.

Or maybe our perceptions of 100% are different?

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Maybe our perceptions of 100% are different.

We only ever give 100% when it's either too late or late on in games, that's the only time we get anywhere near it for me.

Or maybe our perceptions of 100% are different?

I think the players give 100%, the fact that they are incapable of playing against teams that close us down makes us play deep, slow and without the nous to know how to break the opposition down. They don't have the ability, which is different from not giving effort.

The effort is there , the skill factor is not.

It's a different game away from home - less emphasis on the entertainment value. We all want entertaining at home but the way teams set up against us, seems to be a pattern adopted by most and we don't seem to be learning how to deal with it.

I am extremely concerned about out inability to get better as the season progresses. Is that crap players or poor management - or a combination of both?
The effort they give is misdirected and misguided - you may see that as not giving 100%.
Hope that explains.

UTB

 

[Woodwardfan]

Let's keep it simple. Away games you can Nick goals on the break.

Home games there are few opportunities to break.

When teams play a bank of 4 with a bank of 5 in front without much space in between even top teams struggle to find a way through.

We never get more than 3 players in the opposition box until the last 30 minutes. In addition for some inexplicable reason we also concede goals even though we persist with 4 at the back marking one player. We often have two deep midfielders too!

3 attackers v. 8 defenders doesn't go!! Unless they are our defenders!!

Of course the players have accountability. You could even say the fan s have too. But the manager cannot continue to blame everybody but himself. Of course the manager is to blame, not for the odd game but for a pattern set over months and months with all his own players, of course he is.

 

[wizadry]

I think the players give 100%, the fact that they are incapable of playing against teams that close us down makes us play deep, slow and without the nous to know how to break the opposition down. They don't have the ability, which is different from not giving effort.

The effort is there , the skill factor is not.

It's a different game away from home - less emphasis on the entertainment value. We all want entertaining at home but the way teams set up against us, seems to be a pattern adopted by most and we don't seem to be learning how to deal with it.

I am extremely concerned about out inability to get better as the season progresses. Is that crap players or poor management - or a combination of both?
The effort they give is misdirected and misguided - you may see that as not giving 100%.
Hope that explains.

UTB

Cheers for the reply, i appreciate it.

We don't pass and move nearly half as much as we should do, i think iv'e also seen you mention this somewhere, this is another thing that riles me, it's also another thing that tells me they aren't putting that extra effort in to move quicker for the ball, which begs the question are they trying hard enough and coming off the field knowing they've left everything on it. This is not the case in a lot of games i've witnessed until the games either get in the latter stages or it's already too late, simply not acceptable for a paying customer.

I honestly think we have been short changed in a very high percentage of first halves this season, i hope this makes my stance clearer on why we haven't had 100% effort in a lot of games. Desire, passion, drive and effort is everything when you don't have the talent and we aren't showing no where near enough of it at present.

 

[diplomat]

v West Ham at home in October 1989. Mark Ward scored twice for West Ham and Julian Dicks'penalty hit the crossbar. The rebound was so powerful that it created a breakaway chance for us! Keeper Phil Parkes had a good game just like he did for QPR 19 years earlier at the same ground!

I remember that. Parkes was ancient and I thought we'd take advantage. Mark bloody Ward was a thorn in our side. I think he scored both in two other 0-2 home losses. . . against Man City?

 

[Silent Blade]

I remember that. Parkes was ancient and I thought we'd take advantage. Mark bloody Ward was a thorn in our side. I think he scored both in two other 0-2 home losses. . . against Man City?

Yes he scored twice for Man City against us in the ZDS Cup in Jan 1991